The Spanish police have filed involuntary manslaughter charges against the keeper.
Soccer post: Charges filed
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That's what I'd say, although it was clearly a foul. Another article I just saw said that charges are being investigated, not filed. I think it's the same thing that happened in the NFL a couple of years ago. Sudden, heavy contact to the chest over the heart at exactly the wrong split second. The NFL guy made it if I remember it correctly.
The article I read on I think Reuters said the keepers knee hit him in the chest and he died of cardiac arrest. Any non natural death is investigated in Spain. It's doubtful if charges aren't dropped
It's not normal in the fact that it's definitely a reckless challenge by the goalkeeper that endangered the safety of the opponent, and he was rightly given a red card for it. However, it is normal in that reckless challenges like that are not uncommon in soccer, and it never results in life threatening injury or death. The worst injuries in soccer are usually knee injuries or broken bones in the leg from dangerous slide tackles.
Damar Hamlin for the Buffalo Bills. He basically died on the field but was brought back by the medics, and is still playing in the NFL today.
No....his clone is still playing in the NFL.
That's not reckless its excessive force and endangered the safety of the stricker (SFP). Hell I may even record that as violent conduct. The sad part is as bad as it was there are still dumbasses on-line stating "Ball First" SMH.
To be precise, it's reckless with excessive force. Reckless is a yellow card. Reckless with excessive force and endangering the safety of the opponent is a red card. Killing someone definitely qualifies as excessive force.
As a medical professional, this is called "commotio cordis". When the heart is re-charging (so to speak), there is a vulnerable period of the heart where, if a beat from your ventricle happens during this time, it causes your heart to go into V Tach or V Fib. Both can be deadly rhythms. Sometimes, this happens from a mistimed PVC (premature ventricular contraction) and causes VF or VT, which is called "R on T phenomenon." Commotio cordis is essentially the mechanical version of that. You take such a significant blow to your heart, that it's like a premature contraction. And when it happens at that exact time your heart is re-charging.. bad things happen.
Question:No....his clone is still playing in the NFL.
Do you work with jethreauxdawg?
If this occurs, can traditional CPR restore normal sinus rhythm? Should medical personnel onsite have been able to prevent the death?
There is a lot of medical nuance to the phrase "normal sinus rhythm" we could get into, which is a very specific rhythm, but CPR does not do that. CPR is first-line therapy with VF or pulseless VT to restore flow, so you do that immediately since it is associated with improved chances of survival. You absolutely *can* get a return of spontaneous circulation ("ROSC") from CPR (whether normal sinus rhythm or some other rhythm). If you don't get ROSC from CPR, and you have either pulse-less VT or VF, you need to defibrillate.
To answer your question about medical personnel, absolutely 100% yes they should have been onsite. If you have a bystander familiar with CPR, cool, but trained medical personnel are associated with better outcomes.
Medical personnel were on site for Damar Hamlin, and they did CPR on-field, which saved his life. Without intervention from medical personnel (or at the very very least, a bystander that is well-versed in CPR), he almost most certainly does not survive.
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