Got to see which one plays through adversity the best.
You can't tell anything from a game like last night where there's no pressure.
Hawthorne or Ousmane
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You can't tell anything from a game like last night where there's no pressure.
NDiaye shoots to many 3s and not hitting them, looks like they could play Milan at the 4. He like 6 9 230.
Hawthorne will be our 4 by SEC tourney time, if he doesn’t shatter his limbs
Ousmane seems to have good potential but there is something missing in his game, I think it’s a handle and ability to create. Hawthorne has more natural ability for that, I think if he gains strength and gets PT he will be the higher upside player. If he ever becomes a version of his future self we would have a good team if Mason/Wilkins/Mom/Hawthorne/Moreno play about 80% of the game together.
Ousmane seems to be a solid bench player to me. I like McBride in that role as well.
I'm optimistic about all three. If all healthy right now I'd go with Kam because of what I saw of his development before his injury and the more relaible outside threat. But Braydon is clearly gaining confidence and will show more of what he has as he keeps developing. And Ousmane needs to develop his shot but man I love that every time he comes in he brings energy with him.
I think you play the 4 spot by committee, should be about who’s better on that given night. The problem might be when the other team has an overpowering forward, then Ousmane with his length might be the best defensive option. On offensive side you just pull that opposing 4 away from the basket to negate any rebounding advantage.
Wow close poll.
Ousmane because you gotta play in the SEC. I like his experience and demeanor.
Calipari would play him as a starter imo also
Ousmane because you gotta play in the SEC. I like his experience and demeanor.
Calipari would play him as a starter imo also
I think that something missing is offense. Especially in the half court set. He is active and runs the floor real well but at this point he doesn’t seem to have a fraction of the offensive skill set Hawthorne does.
To me, this is why you play him. Ousmane is a finished product and is only ok. Hawthorne can develop into more but only with pt.
It amazes me how awkward Hawthorne is at times. His body is so far ahead of his brain, its a throwback to yesteryear. I thought modern sports medicine and development basically eliminated this but in his case definitely not.
Agreed, I think it’s his handle and the fact that he has little offensive moves outside layups and dunks if he doesn’t hit the 3.
It appears to me that Hawthorne is letting the game come to him. If I had his abilities, I might be inclined to push it every time down the floor. He seems conservative in his approach. I think he will continue to grow in this manner.
He is still finding his way on the court. I bet he will become much more decisive/aggressive as he continues to gain experience
Hawthorne has a higher ceiling. He’s more athletic, better at shooting, creating buckets and probably better at being disruptive on D.
Ndaiye is probably a bit more ready right now. He’s more mature, more experienced having played against pros overseas.
8-10 games from now if Hawthorne keeps developing and improving I think it will be hard to keep him from getting more minutes.
Hawthorne and eventually Kam getting more and more involved I think is very interesting and has some potential.
Obviously line-ups, rotations, minutes can vary depending all sorts of factors.
Pope has options this year. Overall talent, potential of talent, and depth is the best he’s had.
He could keep the line up he’s had. Which means Mason Williams, Hawthorne, and Kam coming off the bench…that could be a problem for opponents bench matching up.
Then there’s an argument that any combo of the above mentioned bench eventually starts. So you could have Zoom, Ndaiye, Hawthorne or Kam coming off bench…again that’s a tall task for opponents bench to match up with.
Ndaiye is probably a bit more ready right now. He’s more mature, more experienced having played against pros overseas.
8-10 games from now if Hawthorne keeps developing and improving I think it will be hard to keep him from getting more minutes.
Hawthorne and eventually Kam getting more and more involved I think is very interesting and has some potential.
Obviously line-ups, rotations, minutes can vary depending all sorts of factors.
Pope has options this year. Overall talent, potential of talent, and depth is the best he’s had.
He could keep the line up he’s had. Which means Mason Williams, Hawthorne, and Kam coming off the bench…that could be a problem for opponents bench matching up.
Then there’s an argument that any combo of the above mentioned bench eventually starts. So you could have Zoom, Ndaiye, Hawthorne or Kam coming off bench…again that’s a tall task for opponents bench to match up with.
Ben Robert’s reported, linked in the thread about Kam’s status, that the second team perimeter players were PG Mason, 2G BH, and SF Kam. That could develop into a strong perimeter team assuming McBride is the PF. Four out with Frank in the middle. I wonder if we see that tonight.
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