Crazy rumor on Reddit...
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I will be beyond shocked if Greg does not collect every single penny his contract says he’s owed.
Schiano is truly playing out the scenario of either dying a hero, or living long enough to see himself become the villain. If he willing to 100% withdraw his buyout protection for NIL to go all in, with a caveat that he retires quietly with no grudges if he fails, then I can get behind that. I dont think that it is legitimate though.
It's an interesting idea and something that I think the fanbase would get behind
Anything that gets him shown the door as quickly as possible
I’ll believe he walks away when I see it, but dumping more money on the roster is a much better investment then paying out a coach and staff and overpaying on an unproven new coach and staff.
There’s no way he does this as his priority is to keep the grifting going as long as possible
Cool ... Reddit has Rutgers Insiders™, too?
But what does “improve” mean? So we go 2-10 this year. Then he goes 3-9 next year and we’ve improved. What is the benchmark? A bowl?
He has a contract and will be paid the full amount of that contract. Nobody would agree to anything different.
So.... Can we still fire him after loss 7 in 2027 and not pay him the buyout?
What is playing out 2027 and "saving a buyout fee"...
2-1, 3-0 vs Akron, BC, LIU
1-3, 2-2 vs MD, Wash, @ MSU, @ Nebraska
0-5, 1-4 vs OSU, Mich, @Ind, @NW, @UCLA
Going to change in 2027? 3-9 to 6-6?
Since 2020 in conference bottom 5 in conference,
Rutgers 16-44, 9-9 vs those teams, 7-35 0.167 vs everyone else.
Maryland 16-40
Nebraska 19-40
Purdue 19-39
Michigan St 19-39
7 other wins,
2021 @ Illinois (5-7), @ Indiana(2-10), 2022 Vs Indiana(4-8), 2023 vs NW(8-5), @ Indiana(3-9), 2024 vs Wash(6-7), Vs Minnesota(8-5).
Overall 33-48
Non conference 17-4(1-2 bowls)
Home 6-24(18-25 overall) 12-1 Non conf
Road 10-20(14-21 overall) 4-1 Non conf
6 home B1G wins in almost 7 years.
Flood(4-12) Home 2-6 Road 2-6
Ash(3-27/3-33) Home 2-12/2-16, Road 1-14/1-17, /wCampanile
Add 1-2 for 2026 and 3-0, 3-6 in 2027
Schiano will still be 34-50(17-46) 2026 and between 37-59(18-54) sand 40-56(20-52) at best after 2027.
There has to be an option out there in 2026 that's willing to fix this, unless they sent out feelers and got no nibbles is the only explanation.
What is playing out 2027 and "saving a buyout fee"...
2-1, 3-0 vs Akron, BC, LIU
1-3, 2-2 vs MD, Wash, @ MSU, @ Nebraska
0-5, 1-4 vs OSU, Mich, @Ind, @NW, @UCLA
Going to change in 2027? 3-9 to 6-6?
Since 2020 in conference bottom 5 in conference,
Rutgers 16-44, 9-9 vs those teams, 7-35 0.167 vs everyone else.
Maryland 16-40
Nebraska 19-40
Purdue 19-39
Michigan St 19-39
7 other wins,
2021 @ Illinois (5-7), @ Indiana(2-10), 2022 Vs Indiana(4-8), 2023 vs NW(8-5), @ Indiana(3-9), 2024 vs Wash(6-7), Vs Minnesota(8-5).
Overall 33-48
Non conference 17-4(1-2 bowls)
Home 6-24(18-25 overall) 12-1 Non conf
Road 10-20(14-21 overall) 4-1 Non conf
6 home B1G wins in almost 7 years.
Flood(4-12) Home 2-6 Road 2-6
Ash(3-27/3-33) Home 2-12/2-16, Road 1-14/1-17, /wCampanile
Add 1-2 for 2026 and 3-0, 3-6 in 2027
Schiano will still be 34-50(17-46) 2026 and between 37-59(18-54) sand 40-56(20-52) at best after 2027.
There has to be an option out there in 2026 that's willing to fix this, unless they sent out feelers and got no nibbles is the only explanation.
Come on man. I’m not buying for a minute that this rumor is even true, but are you actually suggesting that if (hypothetically) it is - “there has to be a better option” for Zinn to fix this right now a different way instead?
If Greg went to her and said - look - I don’t want to go down this way. I care about my legacy more than collecting my full contract. Please give me 2027 to get the program back to a bowl and stabilized. I can’t do it without the NIL fund support and I know that. Stick with me and the new staff and give me the chance to fix this. If I don’t get back us back to at least 6-6 next year, you have my word, I’ll retire without my 28 or 29 pay. We can put it in a contract. (again I doubt he did this).
BUT - if he did… please help us understand what realistic option could conceivably be better for Zinn and than taking this “deal”.
Was wondering the same thing. RU should have started the season 2-0 rather than 0-2. Akron, BC, and LIU vs UMass, BC, and Howard isn't much of a difference. Trading USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska for UCLA, Ohio State, and Washington appears to be more difficult. What will qualify as an improvement.
This is fantastic. I never saw it before.
I know he loves RU deeply and so that's why something like this isn't totally crazy. But ultimately, we're all human and have to do what's best for our families. I can't imagine Mrs. Schiano being thrilled with Coach flushing $12M down the toilet.
We can go back and forth
I’ll list successful coaching changes you will list the ones that did not work out! Outside of maybe Purdue all of the ones you listed are better than us.
The difference the other power 4 will make changes until they succeed.
Greg is a failure and not 1 other university would keep him with a losing record and zero division or conference championship this long.
At this level the Coach is the most important piece. Nil won’t matter with our loser HC!
Time for change
I;m sure that will happen.
Just like I'm sure Zinn has my phone number ready to call me and ask me to take the job as soon as he resigns
Just like I'm sure Zinn has my phone number ready to call me and ask me to take the job as soon as he resigns
Would you leave that much money on the table…? …that’s right neither will chop boy…
Reddit! Where dead brains cells say “hey we are home!”
Reddit! Where dead brains cells say “hey we are home!”
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It’s an interesting proposition for all to ponder: would you give up your life’s work (i.e. leave your one and only company in disgrace to all employees and community) for an extra $12 million dollars, when you already have probably a net worth of close to $15-20 million? How important is your life’s legacy at that point?
His legacy is already shot. The odds of him turning into some beacon of NJ football history and being viewed like Saban is 0 percent. He's a failed college/NFL coach who got paid a lot of money to lose. That's his legacy. But hey, he will always have Louisville. At least it's something.
That place is a cesspool lol. Only thing worse is Blueski
If this were true, it would have been announced as part of AD Zinn's statement. This isn't the kind of thing that miraculously pops up a few days later like Venus rising from the sea.
This is a made up story. If the buyout money was available to be redirected to NIL, it would have been used on the buyout
It doesn’t matter if it projects to be zero. We can’t afford anyone Zinn considers halfway decent right now so hiring someone would mean commiting to a multi-year contract with someone else we don’t want on top of paying out Greg and all his staff plus giving that new person who wasn’t anywhere near the top of our list of coach choices ability to hire their staff. We’d be paying that all the while still paying Greg and his staff salaries and we’d still have to come up with money for NIL and if we don’t come up with that money and advertise it in the coaching search we’d really get nobody. So as you see - it was an impossible situation.
Greg didn’t offer up his post 2027 contract but if he did it without question would be our best option. There’s no debate to that for the reasons above.
I don’t - but if you think for a minute that Kelly Zinn and leadership didn’t vet this based on our realistic budget, I don’t know what to tell you. The problem is - you and many other emotional fans simply believe “anyone” would be better than Greg, which, even if it’s true, still doesn’t mean “anyone” can lift RU from where it is right now. The default outcome is failure. Again - look at Leipold at Kansas. He’s a better coach than Greg but that doesn’t make him or any other “better” coach a slam dunk to win at programs like RU, Kansas, etc. the odds are stacked against to start and when your shopping in the bargain bin it becomes near impossible.
I am 100% certain that both Zinn/Tate have vetted this out AND that we can find a better head coach for this day and age of college football.
Most of us aren’t quite as “emotional” as you might like to think about this topic. Quite the opposite, actually, because this is a man that most of us wanted here for a very long time. Once. If anything, I find the small percentage of loyalist to GS to be the ones thinking “emotionally” about the entire topic.
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They may have had the money within RU but PR concerns ($500M shortfall in a decade) may have had as much to with retaining the insufferable, lying failure as lack of $$.
So, let him bleed out one last time, save $ for one year (school or donor) and reduce the PR risk significantly in the process
So, let him bleed out one last time, save $ for one year (school or donor) and reduce the PR risk significantly in the process
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