That might be true. Trump is the One for MAGA Republicans, he's more important than party or ideology, and partisans vote in primaries. They show off their Trump loyalty while dressed in a lot of Trump swag. But at some point I think reality sets in. He doesn't have responsible Republicans tempering his impulses and excesses like he did in his first term when, prior to Covid, the economy was fine and he avoided wars in the Muslim world. Also, don't discount white women who are tired of MAGA's antics and the bigotry of a number of Republican candidates. Americans are decent people and the angry candidates had limited appeal.
The Senate race in Mississippi
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If the GOP presidential nominee in 2028 ends up being Vance, Vivek, Cruz, Tucker, Jr., or JJ, they may as well get ready for another asszkickin'.
DeSantis and Rubio, while not as angry, have no backbone and would get destroyed in a general by association.
Go Kemp or go home!
Agree, and I think it's the boomers. And they won't learn their lesson.
Agree again. Republicans have become so m17in stupid these days, trying to cater, this that and the other. Just put up a competent candidate.
Kemp would be a good one.
If Colom plays the moderate and doesn't go hard left, he could work himself into a similar position as Tom Daschle who was the Democrat leader in the Senate but was from the bright red state of South Dakota. He's young, a very savvy politician, and is very likeable. The Republicans really screwed the pooch on this election with the Iran War and running unlikable candidates. I wouldn't be shocked if the governor's election comes close/goes blue next year if they find a competent candidate. The crop of R candidates is not great. Gibson is goofy and has a terrible eye for talent. Shad is going hard MAGA which is now a liability, Lynn Fitch is a failing upwards candidate, and Phillip Gunn may not have the name recognition (don't know enough about him during his Speaker tenure).
I think more than policy or party, cruelty lost and decency took a turn at the polls. Who know what the policy implications are, but they literally cannot be worse that allowing this buffoon and his minions run roughshod over the Constitution any longer. Save the country from MAGA first so we have the ability to argue policy going forward. Hammer your representatives and senators and tell them to start doing their job today and holding the executive branch accountable. If you are a conservative you have a unique opportunity to drive home a point to any remaining "Republicans" that this midterm wasn't a fluke and they need to stop MAGAing and start working for our country.
I was pleased to see a normal concession from CHS. I hope that she maintains this position and doesn't double back under MAGA pressure to say that she tried her best to just concede but now thinks it was stolen, just like 2020 when Biden decided to steal it from Trump, but NOT like 2024 when Biden decided not to use the same tactics to steal that one because he was just tired of being in power...
Interesting.......that leads me to ask, what has the legislative body done in the last 10/20/30 years (pick your number), that has been of true benefit to you, your family, or the American citizen at large. This has nothing to do with political party affiliation, but rather the body as a whole serving the American public
Well, we can only hope. I suspect opinions will change when he votes for 1) Wide Open Borders, 2) Medicare for All, 3) D.C. & Puerto Rico becoming states, 4) Overturning All Trumps Exec. Orders, 5) Deleting the Electoral College, 6) Nationwide Gun Bans & Confiscations, 7) Regulating all Fossil Fuel Sources and shutting many down, 8) Write new Agreement with Iran that will allow them to go forward with their nuclear program, 9) Subsidize heavily all public purchases of electric vehicles, 10) Cut the Miliary Budget by 50%, 11) Eliminate ICE, 12) Defund Police, 13) Rejoin the Green New Deal Agreements, 14) Pause all Data Center Construction until new regulations and laws are written to constrict and tax them, 15) Raise minimum wage to $25 per hour, 16) Write new laws so transpeople can play sports with the opposite biological sex, 17) Declare the Bible as a Domestic Terrorist Document, 18) Limit nationwide consumption of red meat products, 19) Withdraw all involvement with Greenland and Venezuela, 20) Raise property taxes by 50% and income taxes to 50% in order to pay for all of the above, and 21) Join the New World Order to streamline governments from around the earth.
Left leaning or not, this helps put the Dems and Schumer types in charge. Recently the Dems have done something that the Republicans couldn't seem to master, which is pretty much block vote. I will be shocked if Colom descents on any meaningful legislation that the Dems introduce
Like I mentioned, I’ve seen 2032 get a lot of talk for Colom, but I’m wondering if 2030 may be equally interesting. Is Wicker really going to run again at 79 years old at that point? And that would be two more years before Colom runs for election again. Colom may be the senior senator by then.
There won’t be another senate election in MS for 4 years and we’ll also have a new governor by then, which seems to be a fairly wide open race right now. Going to be a very interesting next few years for politics in MS.
Andy… I’m of different minds about him… He comes across as a genial doofus, but we might be distantly related — yeah, there are Gipsons in my family tree, so I kind of sort of have some sympathy for our resident Devil…
Shad… I’ve said before we have mutual friends… he’s a really smart fellow but he’s gonna have tack in a slightly different direction…
I was in Phillip’s house district and know folks in his family. I don’t know if he can raise the money either…
Duff may be my only viable possible candidate. He passes the Richard Nixon test. He’s the only person who might be running for Governor who I’ve bought a used car from…
Shad gives me McDaniel vibes. Maybe it’s a Jones County thing. But I feel like he would be a very polarizing candidate. Possibly moreso than Tate was.
Tate’s two elections surprised me. He did better than I expected against Hood, worse than I expected against Presley.
CHS is a moron but those thinking Colom is a lot better are in for a rude awakening. Talk to some folks who have actually seen him in a courtroom.
Duff is a big no from me dawg. To know him is to not want to vote for him.
Hell yeah, I was hoping for some classic SPS 'suspect' posting! I want more of it, please!
It’s very much a Jones County thing…
At the moment, I suspect Shad & Andy will split the McDaniel vote with Andy getting more if only because he comes across as the Good Cop to Shad’s Barney Fifeish Bad Cop…
I’m not surprised about Tate’s election results if only because I thought Presley wanted to be Governor more than Hood did…
The legislative branch isnt a lifetime appointment though.
Like yeah it is effectively that right now for many legislators, but thats just because people vote them back in over and over.
You're not the only one I know who’s said something like that…
There needs to be a candidate who rises from the least bad level and actually be good
He will have to play the moderate if he wants to win again in six years, but I have a feeling that he’s going to be told by leadership that he has to vote a certain way because that’s just really how it works now unfortunately.
Another thing that just kind of sums up the cause of what happened to the GOP is Hegseth and his buddies behavior at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier yesterday. That was just disgraceful.
I don't know that there is a party that could provide a definition of "conservative" that looks anything like Buckley's version.I miss Buckley, the godfather of the modern conservative movement.
The Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the White House from 2021 to 2023. I'm assuming all of this got implemented then..***
.....hence my comment about apathetic voter.....uniformed electorate
obviously I am aware it is not a lifetime appointment......but, IMO, ego, keeps these folks running, and that does not serve the best interest of the country.
Mississippi has been pretty solidly red for around two decades now. Having a more or less one party state tends to not be good for development of good candidates. That's why you see the idiots and nutters largely coming from solidly red or solidly blue districts/states.
Mississippi is in pretty good shape considering. Shad is not my favorite, but he's at least smart. Sean Tindell is going to be a good one I think. Briggs Hobson would have been a good candidate. I don't have a feel on Michael Watson or Gunn. Don't know anything about Gibson but damn he seems awful on a first impression. Fitch seems to be the one that has probably squeaked through by right time, right place, combined with a relatively dominant party. Similar to Cindy Hyde Smith. I would agree we are a little weak for the governor position this cycle, but I think that's just because a lot of our better candidates are younger and going to be in the other statewide offices.
He was, and is unqualified. Trump has no regard for our military, nor does he. He has no business being anywhere near our military leadership. Here's a quick list of his accomplishments:
| Issue | Strongest fact-based concern |
|---|---|
| Signal | Hegseth disclosed imminent strike timing on a commercial messaging platform in a group that accidentally included a journalist. |
| Senior leadership | At least 20 senior uniformed/civilian leaders departed amid widespread leadership changes. |
| NSA/CYBERCOM | Experienced cyber/intelligence leadership was abruptly removed. |
| JAG leadership | Senior military lawyers viewed by Hegseth as potential “roadblocks” were removed. |
| Iran | Sustained operations have drawn personnel and assets away from other combatant commands. |
| Missile defense | Heavy THAAD/Patriot usage has produced significant stockpile and replenishment concerns, although exact depletion percentages remain classified/disputed. |
| Global readiness | Senior commanders reportedly warned that sustaining the Iran commitment jeopardizes capability elsewhere. |
| “Department of War” | Hegseth embraced an aggressive rebrand, but it remains a secondary title because Congress has not legally renamed the department. |
Other than being incompetent, having no respect for the military (see the issues laughing loudly at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier) and running things into the ground, he's been great. He's exactly who we need serving under a president who called our dead soldiers in France "suckers" and "losers".
John Kelly, Trump's former White House chief of staff and a retired four-star Marine general, publicly went on the record.
Kelly described Trump as:
He also specifically referenced Trump calling fallen service members“losers” and refusing to visit their graves in France.
Why didn't they vote for Talarico?
He constantly discusses issues with a perspective that emphasizes care for others, kindness, respect, etc. He pushes for poverty alleviation, supported increasing teacher pay, supported lowering property taxes, supported reducing healtcare cost barriers, etc etc.
I would think that sort of leadership would be in high demand by people who vote with Christian values in mind.
Is it really because a handful of years ago he said God is nonbinary...which is a way to say God is beyond gender? And/or his views on reproductive healthcare?
I understand the concept of not wanting to vote for the lesser evil, but from afar- it sure seems like 'lesser evil' is being used very very loosely here.
Anyways, at least its good to see people who identify as Christian finally not support candidates who dont come close to meeting Christian values. Sure wish that had happened 10 years ago and 2 years ago.
I am all for a term limit or age limit - something that allows for a person to serve a long time so actual good legislators arent forced out, but something that also keeps Congress from being a bit too stagnant.
One of my state's Senators took office shortly before I was born...almost 46 years ago. That is insane.
He will be 95 when he is up for re-election in a couple years...and he has kept the door open to run again. That is insane.
Good Lord. "cruelty lost"...? "decency"...?
I weep for this country's softness. Yet aGAIN, this once great and strong country willingly bends over for jihadists because hey, at least they don't put out mean tweets."The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them." — Turkish Proverb
I am resigned to the fact that we have to sit here and take it, but hopefully I am allowed to register my feelings without getting this thread locked:
Anyone who assumes control or responsibility for a organization and immediately terminates or otherwise removes the most experienced people has no clue what they are doing. That was a recurring theme across all areas of the government when this admin tookover in 2025. Incompetent is an understatement.
They see Talarico as more of a liberal(not in the way it is used today) line of theology. Getting them to not vote red was big deal, but I am seeing Christian’s move more to middle of road line. I know a lot of Christians’ ready to tell Israel to kick rocks which is crazy to think about.
I know political leadership had a lot to do with it, but when the experienced people produced the Afghanistan withdrawal, getting rid of them is not a problem.
You can question the policy decisions on when and how to use force, but the actual military operations seem to be going pretty well under Hegseth.
Christians aren't particularly more responsible than voters in general, and voters in the US in general are pretty irresponsible. Christians ready to tell Israel to kick rocks aren't mad about Israel, they are mad about expensive gas. Whether it was a good decision to press the issue with Iran or keep kicking the can down the road is debatable, but most people aren't really having that debate. It's just gas is expensive now, Iran with nuclear capabilities is later. Same as spending is good now; paying debt is later. We don't vote on anything further than a few months out.
A couple of those are actually viable candidates, especially DeSantis. I think Florida would have had a similar fate as Texas had DeSantis not been a very effective governor.
What is going to get the GOP a worse beat down in 2028 is not dissociating from the foreign lobby and if they fail to put Americans, especially young Americans, first. Gen X and the millennials are a bigger voting block than the Boomers and nobody under 40 is for the forever wars in the Middle East.
What kind of uniforms are we talking about? OCPs? Boy Scout? Flight suit? Blue Nomex?
My standard of living is pretty good. Support for education and some infrastructure. Are you saying our lives would be worse but for government? What is your model of a successful government considering the limitations of human nature and democracy?
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