I feel like we have some good pieces but it seems like we'll be bad again. No outside shooting and don't have a big enough prescence inside right now. Our defense wasn't good last year and don't know if it's going to be good this year. We supposedly have a defensive coach, but we aren't good at defense. We hired a guy to help with offense but I see no changes. When should we expect decent results?
How Long Do We Put Up With A Bad Basketball Team
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I started as a big Jans fan after the first year but he's been bad.
I was so excited to get Jans. Love a defensive game. We have never had any sort of defender at all since he has been here. If all my NIL wasnt going to women's rugby, I would be pulling it.
Uhm most likely every year. Be that for an expanded NCAA tourney, but don't expect to get much better results than the 64 team that many times we shouldn't even have a chance.
Common we made the tournament 3 out of the last four years with decent teams. We have some of the dumbest basketball fans in the country.
Yeah, we are such a fixture in the tournament over the years. It ain’t just limited to basketball either.
I was super pumped in Jans first years because he was on the lock down D. That's what he was known for and I figured if we could get just an above average O we could make some noise. The lock down D didnt last. I thought year 1 was a fluke. Year 2 I was done. It's been a lot of years since.
what's he good at??
what's he good at??
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Apparently contracts never run out. They are either renewed for 4 years or terminated. It's some wierd BS that seems straight out of the teamsters union. If you don't renew every year then you're done. You can't recruit because all the recruits won't have hope youll be there their full 4 years.
That made sense in the past, makes no sense now. As MJ said (or at least the meme said) **** them kids.
in this day and age theres no reason to extend a coach ever unless they are good. Change my mind.
Dead gum this account is so old. Been years since I posted.
Jans is a bum. It’s been 3+ years since we have seen anything positive from one of his teams. He wasted Hubb’s career. Farrrrrrr worse than anything Lebby is guilty of. I could go on but I don’t care. What a bum.
Jans is a bum. It’s been 3+ years since we have seen anything positive from one of his teams. He wasted Hubb’s career. Farrrrrrr worse than anything Lebby is guilty of. I could go on but I don’t care. What a bum.
You just extend without increasing the buyout if that’s an issue. But never pay a dime to fire a basketball coach
To say Jans is worse than Lebby is almost brain dead. We have 1 NCAA tournament appearance from 2010-2022. Jans took over and boom 3 in the first 3 for Jans.I don’t see how that’s even a comparison. Maybe it’s time for him to go after this season but worse then Lebby is a wildly inaccurate statement
I didn’t come here to get into it with the anti lebby crowd.
All I have to say is that jans is a bum. Zero quantifiable improvement from year 1. Wasted the career of the future program scoring leader. If selmon had any balls, these guys would be walking back to stark after that performance.
I’m just having trouble getting over this one. It was so pathetic. 4-29 from 3. 18 turnovers. Where was the pressure on the high ball screen to stop the rim runs and kick outs? 3’s not going down, no driving to the rim to get FT’s?? Tristan Reed and Kimani NEED touches. I mean just basic stuff. In year 4.
What makes it worse is that there’s like 5 of us who actually care and the beat reporters don’t ask him any tough questions. These guys are on permanent vacation
What makes it worse is that there’s like 5 of us who actually care and the beat reporters don’t ask him any tough questions. These guys are on permanent vacation
He is plain and simple not an offensive coach. There is no plan for who he wants to get shots. What really kills me is how bad defensively we are and that is suppose to be his thing. We were awful last year on defense too. What is he really good at?
Its one game. This season just started. They will gel. We aint Kentucky. Relax
What happened?.....we must have played a team with a pulse.
Yeah, that’s about where I am. In this day and age, you can’t allocate money to buyouts in basketball, but you definitely can pull funding.
Will that happen? I doubt it, and Jans will just continue to find ways to blow $10-15M on subpar rosters, but there has to be some kind of penalty for this kind of ineptitude. I just don’t know how to do it
Apparently we shoot the basketball with the same level of skill we block with in football.
If we can get football right & keep baseball elite, im ok with bad basketball. Of course we haven’t gotten football right since Dan Mullen was here except for 1 season.
I think Hub and Jans were a bad fit together. Hub is too good on offense and overall to not play, but Jans apparently can't make his defense work with Hub, or at least not without putting the type of defenders that leave us with no offense, because those type defenders that can also score are out of our price range.
Hubs tried trading defense for offense and it didn't work. Did ok for a year, then the wheels fell off.
"How Long Do We Put Up With A Bad Basketball Team"
Since '96, minus a few good Stans years?We are awful on defense because Hub is awful on defense. About half the points we give up start with him losing his man.
We’ve made the tournament 3 out of 4 years with our current coach. After a drought of one tourney appearance in 12 years before we hired him.
Jans isn’t perfect and he does need to right the ship as soon as possible, but the disconnect with our fanbase and Jans is something else. It feels a little like when our fans started souring on Mullen circa late 2012 and early 2013.
The guy is still a good coach and has accomplished a lot here. We are historically not a program that makes the NCAAT often and he came in and did three times immediately. So I think he’s earned some benefit of the doubt. And I’m not ready to write the obituary on this team either. I still like a number of our pieces.
It seems that a lot of what sold our admin on him was the fact that he dominated us in a game we played against NMSU in 2019.
Last year was the first season in his career as a head coach that he won less than 20 games in a full regular season. His winning percentage at New Mexico State was outstanding and he won that league in 4 out of his 5 seasons.
So no, we did not hire him based off one result in 2019.
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yet we have idiots here comparing him to Lebby. It maybe time for us to re evaluate on him, but he’s not Lebby incompetent. That’s just a straight up lie
Everyone conveniently forgets him completely dominating Dan Hurley (2x national champ 3x finalist) 2 days before we hired him
I’ve never accused us of having an intelligent fanbase on average…. And basketball is by far the sport that our fanbase is the least knowledgeable about.
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