“Virginia Tech proposes adding extra $229M to athletics budget”

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Why don't they hire Goiter Jr.? Or has he already had that job. I don't know. They're irrelevant.
 

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Seems like a lot of money for vo tech. This is what we’re up against.

PSU BOT and Neeli laugh at that amount. They will tell you when its enough until then give more and more ....
 

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Seems like a lot of money for vo tech. This is what we’re up against.


Seems like a lot of money for vo tech. This is what we’re up against.

So VPI is going to join the list of athletic programs with a university and leave the list of universities with an athletic program. Regardless of the amount of money that they sink into that program, without another Beamer type of coach, who just may have been at the right place at the right time, VPI probably isn't going to rise much farther than where they are now.
 

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So VPI is going to join the list of athletic programs with a university and leave the list of universities with an athletic program. Regardless of the amount of money that they sink into that program, without another Beamer type of coach, who just may have been at the right place at the right time, VPI probably isn't going to rise much farther than where they are now.
That's a lot of money for a team in a conference which is on shaky ground. $57+ million a year?? Maybe the money will come from exit fees paid by conference schools which will be leaving.

Beamer certainly was right place right time. And he came cheap because he was a local boy who played at VT and had no desire to go anywhere else. He was also a good coach who made the genius decision 30-some-odd years ago to have Tech play a lot of games on Thursday. It seemed like it was three or four times a year. VT = Virginia Thursday. Doing that got a lot of eyeballs on them and really raised their national profile. At the time, Thursday college games usually involved teams without a huge viewer base. Soon afterward, a lot of top teams wanted to play on Thursday because of the attention they'd get. Eventually the NFL decided they wanted a piece of the Thursday action and the big college games went away. Nowadays the Thursday college games have match-ups similar to what you'd see 30 years ago. Plus, with conference networks today and ESPN+, pretty much every game is televised somewhere if fans want to see it.
 

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That's a lot of money for a team in a conference which is on shaky ground. $57+ million a year?? Maybe the money will come from exit fees paid by conference schools which will be leaving.

Beamer certainly was right place right time. And he came cheap because he was a local boy who played at VT and had no desire to go anywhere else. He was also a good coach who made the genius decision 30-some-odd years ago to have Tech play a lot of games on Thursday. It seemed like it was three or four times a year. VT = Virginia Thursday. Doing that got a lot of eyeballs on them and really raised their national profile. At the time, Thursday college games usually involved teams without a huge viewer base. Soon afterward, a lot of top teams wanted to play on Thursday because of the attention they'd get. Eventually the NFL decided t, hey wanted a piece of the Thursday action and the big college games went away. Nowadays the Thursday college games have match-ups similar to what you'd see 30 years ago. Plus, with conference networks today and ESPN+, pretty much every game is televised somewhere if fans want to see it.
The college game last Thursday was Rice v. Charlotte; you really have to love college football to watch that game, or have money on it. I'm the former.

Last week, I heard Shane Beamer's name mentioned for that job for obvious reasons. Unless he just feels a deep need to resurrect what his father built, I think that he'd be crazy to leave a SEC job for Virginia Tech; that program really has become out of sight, out of mind. God, in their own state, UVA, JMU and ODU are better programs.
 

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Seems like a lot of money for vo tech. This is what we’re up against.

Colleges used to put their resources into things like science, engineering, libraries etc. Now it is football and other sports. Great if your major is pre-NFL. Not so much if it is not.
 

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Why don't they hire Goiter Jr.? Or has he already had that job. I don't know. They're irrelevant.
If you’re talking about Frank Beamer, that’s a childhood burn scar. He’s a good dude.

“In 1953, at the age of seven, Beamer suffered a life-altering accident. After using a push broom to keep a pile of burning trash in place, he returned the broom to its place in the garage, unaware that it was smoldering. A spark ignited a nearby can of gasoline, which exploded in front of him. His 11-year-old brother Barnett saved him by rolling him around on the ground. He was left with burns on his shoulders, chest, and the right side of his neck. Over the next several years, Beamer underwent dozens of skin graft procedures, leaving him with permanent scarring.”
 

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Last week, I heard Shane Beamer's name mentioned for that job for obvious reasons. Unless he just feels a deep need to resurrect what his father built, I think that he'd be crazy to leave a SEC job for Virginia Tech; that program really has become out of sight, out of mind. God, in their own state, UVA, JMU and ODU are better programs.

Shane probably has a much hotter seat now than he did 2 weeks ago. From preseason top 15 to unranked with a 5 of the next 6 game stretch that now looks strongly like a big losing streak is upon them. The remaining schedule:

UK
@ LSU
Oklahoma
Bama
@ Ole Miss
@ A&M
Coastal
Clemson

Beamer needs 4 wins to make a bowl. I don't see 4 wins as things stand today.
 
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Shane probably has a much hotter seat now than he did 2 weeks ago. From preseason top 15 to unranked with a 5 of the next 6 game stretch that now looks strongly like a big losing streak is upon them. The remaining schedule:

UK
@ LSU
Oklahoma
Bama
@ Ole Miss
@ A&M
Coastal
Clemson

Beamer needs 4 wins to make a bowl. I don't see 4 wins as things stand today.
For whatever reason, and no matter how hard they try, it just seems like South Carolina only can get to a certain level and never exceed it like Old Miss is doing now.
 

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I dont know if VT can ever get in to a top 5 team again but they are within 3-400 miles of the Tidewater area, Richmond, Northern VA/DC, Columbus OH, Charlotte, etc. They should be able to get athletes.
 

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For whatever reason, and no matter how hard they try, it just seems like South Carolina only can get to a certain level and never exceed it like Old Miss is doing now.
And yet, Ole Miss still hasn’t made a playoff or conference championship game.
 

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I dont know if VT can ever get in to a top 5 team again but they are within 3-400 miles of the Tidewater area, Richmond, Northern VA/DC, Columbus OH, Charlotte, etc. They should be able to get athletes.
Franklin has taken a bunch of recruits from VT’s back yard. Rojas is the one that comes to mind off of the top of my head. Pretty sure Campbell is from VA also. He went UNC then PSU.
 

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If you’re talking about Frank Beamer, that’s a childhood burn scar. He’s a good dude.

“In 1953, at the age of seven, Beamer suffered a life-altering accident. After using a push broom to keep a pile of burning trash in place, he returned the broom to its place in the garage, unaware that it was smoldering. A spark ignited a nearby can of gasoline, which exploded in front of him. His 11-year-old brother Barnett saved him by rolling him around on the ground. He was left with burns on his shoulders, chest, and the right side of his neck. Over the next several years, Beamer underwent dozens of skin graft procedures, leaving him with permanent scarring.”
That’s a sad story. I will say this though. I lost a lot of respect for Beamer when I saw him arrogantly run up the score on MD when Friedgen was there. The announcers were saying all night how they were really close friends and then Beamer can’t help himself and wouldn’t call off the dogs. Seemed like a low class thing to do to your good friend. I seem to remember the camera showing Friedgen just staring across the field at Beamer.
 
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Shane probably has a much hotter seat now than he did 2 weeks ago. From preseason top 15 to unranked with a 5 of the next 6 game stretch that now looks strongly like a big losing streak is upon them. The remaining schedule:

UK
@ LSU
Oklahoma
Bama
@ Ole Miss
@ A&M
Coastal
Clemson

Beamer needs 4 wins to make a bowl. I don't see 4 wins as things stand today.
They were hyped up waaaay too much at the end of last season and this preseason. They are a good team, not a really good team. They couldn’t stop the Mizzou run game to save their lives.
 
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Franklin has taken a bunch of recruits from VT’s back yard. Rojas is the one that comes to mind off of the top of my head. Pretty sure Campbell is from VA also. He went UNC then PSU.
There was that TE that played last year that was pretty good to from Richmond area... Tyler Warren.
 
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Shane probably has a much hotter seat now than he did 2 weeks ago. From preseason top 15 to unranked with a 5 of the next 6 game stretch that now looks strongly like a big losing streak is upon them. The remaining schedule:

UK
@ LSU
Oklahoma
Bama
@ Ole Miss
@ A&M
Coastal
Clemson

Beamer needs 4 wins to make a bowl. I don't see 4 wins as things stand today.
I see three (UK, Coastal & Clemson) and a few upsets if their QB regains full health.
 
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Franklin has taken a bunch of recruits from VT’s back yard. Rojas is the one that comes to mind off of the top of my head. Pretty sure Campbell is from VA also. He went UNC then PSU.
True and so do many other schools, but what I was saying is that there are plenty of athletes for them that are within a five or 6 Hour drive that they should be able to be highly competitive every year.
 
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I lost a lot of respect for Beamer when I saw him arrogantly run up the score on MD when Friedgen was there.
Great story, of course it never happened.

Fridge and Beamer matched up 4 times. VT won all four.

2009: VT 36, Maryland 9 (Maryland was 2-10, and hard to not trounce)
VT led 27-3 at the half, and VT basically ran out the clock most of the second half (scored just 3 field goals) and ran the ball 15 times on 16 4th Q snaps.

2008: VT 23, Maryland 13 (VT kicked a FG mid 4th quarter of what had been a 7 point game)

2005: VT 28, Maryland 9 (A 14-3 game until VT scored 2 4th Q TDs)

2004: VT 55, Maryland 6 - The one "blow out" in the series.
A bad Maryland team was playing out the tail end of a season of dreadfully inept offense (31 of VT's points came off of Maryland turnovers)
VT was up 41-3 over a bad Maryland team at the half..... VT called off the dogs the entire second half (one of their 2 2nd half scores was a pick six)
VT had 16 snaps in the 3rd quarter ran on 15 of them, 8 snaps in the fourth quarter - all runs.

Beamer - even back then, when there were far more "honorable" type guys in college coaching, was always one of the most respected and decent guys in the business.
In today's game, he would be a HUGE outlier in that regard.
The idea that he would - or ever did - "arrogantly run up the score" on Friedgen is just idiotic.

(Trivia, FWIW: James Franklin was on the Maryland staff for all but one - the 2005 game - of those games)
 

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Great story, of course it never happened.

Fridge and Beamer matched up 4 times. VT won all four.

2009: VT 36, Maryland 9 (Maryland was 2-10, and hard to not trounce)
VT led 27-3 at the half, and VT basically ran out the clock most of the second half (scored just 3 field goals) and ran the ball 15 times on 16 4th Q snaps.

2008: VT 23, Maryland 13 (VT kicked a FG mid 4th quarter of what had been a 7 point game)

2005: VT 28, Maryland 9 (A 14-3 game until VT scored 2 4th Q TDs)

2004: VT 55, Maryland 6 - The one "blow out" in the series.
A bad Maryland team was playing out the tail end of a season of dreadfully inept offense (31 of VT's points came off of Maryland turnovers)
VT was up 41-3 over a bad Maryland team at the half..... VT called off the dogs the entire second half (one of their 2 2nd half scores was a pick six)
VT had 16 snaps in the 3rd quarter ran on 15 of them, 8 snaps in the fourth quarter - all runs.

Beamer - even back then, when there were far more "honorable" type guys in college coaching, was always one of the most respected and decent guys in the business.
In today's game, he would be a HUGE outlier in that regard.
The idea that he would - or ever did - "arrogantly run up the score" on Friedgen is just idiotic.

(Trivia, FWIW: James Franklin was on the Maryland staff for all but one - the 2005 game - of those games)
Thanks for taking the time.
 

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Great story, of course it never happened.

Fridge and Beamer matched up 4 times. VT won all four.

2009: VT 36, Maryland 9 (Maryland was 2-10, and hard to not trounce)
VT led 27-3 at the half, and VT basically ran out the clock most of the second half (scored just 3 field goals) and ran the ball 15 times on 16 4th Q snaps.

2008: VT 23, Maryland 13 (VT kicked a FG mid 4th quarter of what had been a 7 point game)

2005: VT 28, Maryland 9 (A 14-3 game until VT scored 2 4th Q TDs)

2004: VT 55, Maryland 6 - The one "blow out" in the series.
A bad Maryland team was playing out the tail end of a season of dreadfully inept offense (31 of VT's points came off of Maryland turnovers)
VT was up 41-3 over a bad Maryland team at the half..... VT called off the dogs the entire second half (one of their 2 2nd half scores was a pick six)
VT had 16 snaps in the 3rd quarter ran on 15 of them, 8 snaps in the fourth quarter - all runs.

Beamer - even back then, when there were far more "honorable" type guys in college coaching, was always one of the most respected and decent guys in the business.
In today's game, he would be a HUGE outlier in that regard.
The idea that he would - or ever did - "arrogantly run up the score" on Friedgen is just idiotic.

(Trivia, FWIW: James Franklin was on the Maryland staff for all but one - the 2005 game - of those games)
The 2004 game had controversy. It was more around the end of the first half and Beamer leaving the starters in through much of the third quarter despite being up 5+ scores. The starting QB didn’t come out until VT was up 48-3 despite MD showing no threat to the Hokies all night. Even Lee Corso questioned Beamer a bit that night. This is written from a VT perspective.

Attaboy for taking an underhand swipe at Franklin. You never miss an opportunity.

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The 2004 game had controversy. It was more around the end of the first half and Beamer leaving the starters in through much of the third quarter despite being up 5+ scores. The starting QB didn’t come out until VT was up 48-3 despite MD showing no threat to the Hokies all night. Even Lee Corso questioned Beamer a bit that night. This is written from a VT perspective.

Attaboy for taking an underhand swipe at Franklin. You never miss an opportunity.

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I have no problems with starters playing in a blowout up to the 4th quarter. It was Maryland's job not to embarrass themselves, not Beamer's. Besides, Maryland showed in its 20-19 victory over a sanction ravaged PSU team a decade later that it didn't need to be in a blowout to embarrass themselves. F them.
 
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I have no problems with starters playing in a blowout up to the 4th quarter. It was Maryland's job not to embarrass themselves, not Beamer's. Besides, Maryland showed in its 20-19 victory over a sanction ravaged PSU team a decade later that it didn't need to be in a blowout to embarrass themselves. F them.
Apples to oranges but sure.