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godfthr53

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how could you be so sure joe pesci GIF
 
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Dave Brody

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pjjp said:
Marist has the football numbers and enrollment for the Blue. But, they didn’t make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years playing in the third division. Not sure how anyone could justify a 2-level bump based on their recent performance.
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Didn’t Marist get significantly hit with the injury bug this year? I also don’t think Marist would want to move down in divisions. They are up for the challenge.
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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I have watched several ESL & MC games this year and have voiced my opinion on both teams

Providing that both teams play their best games

I will take MC in this match up
 
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Kevin JCHS 1981

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Kevin JCHS 1981 said:
I tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.

Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.

1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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Kevin JCHS 1981 said:
Fake News???? Why I outta....

Wilmington & Byron are undefeated all-time against MC, Brother Rice, Loyola, ESL and LWE. So there!!!!!
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crusader_of_90 said:
Who are three people who have never been in my kitchen?
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Yes! Yes! My point exactly!

If I have never been invited to, or visited your kitchen, how could I ever rate you in the top 5 kitchens, let alone #1.

How can you have any pudding if you don't beat yer meat?

All in all, you're just another brick in the (football) wall.
 
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refreff01

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Dave Brody said:
Didn’t Marist get significantly hit with the injury bug this year? I also don’t think Marist would want to move down in divisions. They are up for the challenge.
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They are in division 3 currently but believe in the new system they are being forced in 1.
 
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JFelice

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refreff01 said:
They are in division 3 currently but believe in the new system they are being forced in 1.
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Where they belong. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m sure you are right and I’m wrong but how do you know they’re in the 3rd division?
 
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TigerforFlyers

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LWN_Pheonix said:
I have watched several ESL & MC games this year and have voiced my opinion on both teams

Providing that both teams play their best games

I will take MC in this match up
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LWN_Pheonix said:
THIS year
I don’t think that ESL matches up well with MC

I say that with the utmost respect towards ESL and what the coaches do with those kids
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What is this like New York, New York? A city so nice, you have to say it twice?
 
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Dave Brody

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tuccs said:
I’ve said this numerous times….ESL played a very strong schedule and LOST to every single tough opponent they played.

Mt Carmel played a tough schedule ALL SEASON and is playing in the highest playoff bracket possible and is not only playing but dominating in it.

In conclusion…LOSING…again…L…O…S…I…N…G to Nationally ranked teams and then playing down two levels of competition doesn’t put you in the same conversation.

ESL is great at what they do and a great team. Hats off to you for being a safe haven for so many D1 athletes facing hardships it’s commendable. However, until the conference lets them play up to the competition they will not be considered #1.

It’s like giving a 20 year old the 3rd grade spelling bee trophy.
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Tuccs - it’s nice to read this again. Well done, sir.
 
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Dave Brody

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Alexander33 said:
The formula for determining the best team in the state of Illinois is quite simple.

1) The team must win a state championship in one of the eight classifications.
2) The team is assigned points that correspond to the class level in which it won the championship.
* Games against out-of-state teams are not used in this formula because we are determining the best team in the state.
3) Subtract one point for each loss the team has incurred.
4) For unbeaten teams, divide the closest margin of victory by ten and consider the result to be points earned for use in this formula.
5) Add and subtract points as called for in steps 2, 3 and 4. The team with the most points is the best team in the state.

So, as things presently stand, and assuming both Mt. Carmel and East St. Louis go on to win their respective state championships, here are the calculations.

Mt. Carmel = 8 - 0 + .4 = 8.4 points
East St. Louis = 6 - 0 + 3.9 = 9.9 points

East St. Louis should be considered the best team in the state unless either Nazareth or Fenwick loses to them by less than 24 points in the 6A state championship game.
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Can you re-run these calcs?
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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I understand backing your team no matter what

but ESL doesn’t have a mid level passing game against a good defensive play calling coach

you can’t be #1 in the state if you can’t air the ball out
 
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crusader_of_90

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LWN_Pheonix said:
I understand backing your team no matter what

but ESL doesn’t have a mid level passing game against a good defensive play calling coach

you can’t be #1 in the state if you can’t air the ball out
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In this game, they had 158 yards passing compared to 155. Shanklin has 17 completions or 27 attempts, but 2 ints. Not bad, Not great.
 
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