100% "warming" data last hundred years fabricated?

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The suggestion that us pouring tons and tons and tons of carbon emissions into the atmosphere, and it not having some sort of impact is kind of crazy. Granted, the Earth goes through its natural cycles over time as well, some perhaps the human equation is minimal. But the thought process that it is impossible and just some crazed theory is a lot of denial.

This is kind of my stance as well. We should do better to clean up the place. At the same time, we're a flea on planet earth. Some of earth's "processes" are going to happen whether we like it or not.
 

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Unless your definition of cleaning the earth is establishing a global carbon trading market so a select few can become billionaires while people still pollute the earth, having the US pay to a global organization to give my tax dollars to other world leaders, giving government grants to friends that run green energy companies, etc.

What are we even referring to here?
 

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Source of money, imo.

We create **** so we can create more money. It's beautiful.
Spending a billion dollars on something just to blow it up for no reason (1000+ times) is in no way a source to create more money..it's in fact the exact opposite and me & u are paying for it.
 

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Global warming is one of those non problems that people get uppity about. If you get a steak dinner for free would you complain that it's peppered? No, you wouldn't.

If it's cold outside, stay in bed and enjoy your wife. If it's warm outside, stay in bed and enjoy your wife. Then go outside for a walk and a cigarette.

There. Problem solved.
 

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Don't care, I won't be alive when anything bad happens. I don't know why liberals care either, they don't care about babies before theyre born, so why do they care about ppl who aren't born yet who this will affect?

Plus, are we to believe the government can fix this? Lol, yeah because they have such a good track record of fixing things...I'm not opening up my pockets so they can squander more money away. Besides, China lives under the same atmosphere as us...they plan on going to war with China to make them stop polluting the air? Also, speaking of war...our government blowing the **** out of everything with bombs can't be good for the environment either.
 
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I feel like I'm missing something here. However, I really hope I'm not, and that you're actually about to describe, in great detail, some kind of underground war.

Bro, it's all about the fight between the different alien factions. Youtube is your entertaining friend, embrace it, and enjoy it.
 
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Don't care, I won't be alive when anything bad happens. I don't know why liberals care either, they don't care about babies before theyre born, so why do they care about ppl who aren't born yet who this will affect?

Plus, are we to believe the government can fix this? Lol, yeah because they have such a good track record of fixing things...I'm not opening up my pockets so they can squander more money away. Besides, China lives under the same atmosphere as us...they plan on going to war with China to make them stop polluting the air? Also, speaking of war...our government blowing the **** out of everything with bombs can't be good for the environment either.
Doesn't affect me. Why should I care.

Nice.

What's your stance on coal?
 

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Statements by concurring organizations to Anthropogenic Global Warming:

The National Science Academies of the following countries:

of Australia,
of Belgium,
of Brazil,
of Cameroon,
Royal Society of Canada,
of the Caribbean,
of China,
Institut de France,
of Ghana,
Leopoldina of Germany,
of Indonesia,
of Ireland,
Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy,
of India,
of Japan,
of Kenya,
of Madagascar,
of Malaysia,
of Mexico,
of Nigeria,
Royal Society of New Zealand,
Russian Academy of Sciences,
of Senegal,
of South Africa,
of Sudan,
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences,
of Tanzania,
of Turkey,
of Uganda,
The Royal Society of the United Kingdom,
of the United States,
of Zambia,
and of Zimbabwe.

Concurring statements issued by the following Scientific Institutions with National or International Standing:

European Academy of Sciences and Arts
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
Network of African Science Academies
Royal Society of New Zealand
Polish Academy of Sciences
National Research Council (US)
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Meteorological Society
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Institute of Physics
Australian Institute of Physics
European Physical Society
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
American Geophysical Union European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of London
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
American Meteorological Society
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
World Meteorological Organization
American Quaternary AssociationThe American Quaternary Association International Union for Quaternary Research
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Society for Microbiology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Institute of Biology (UK)
Society of American Foresters
The Wildlife Society (international)
American Academy of Pediatrics
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Medical Association
American Public Health Association
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Health Organization
American Astronomical Society
American Statistical Association
Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)
International Association for Great Lakes Research
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand

Dissenting Opinions from Scientific Institutions with National or International standing:

None.
 

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Global warming/man created climate change is all bull crap. It always has been. It's just a way to make more money and give leftist tards a "boogeyman" to freak out about.
Yup. Just a scam to raise taxes and to take more freedoms away.
 

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Doesn't affect me. Why should I care.

Nice.

What's your stance on coal?
What about it? Can't find a job bc of coal decline? Move. Mexicans do for work. Actually there's correlation that big government social programs are why ppl don't move. It's easier to keep your welfare then to take a chance at moving and losing it.

But again...you avoided my biggest point...China pollutes the **** out of the air...we all live under the same atmosphere...if you think your government is competent enough to spend tax dollars on a solution..then that's laughable. In the past year the federal government spent 678,000,000 tax dollars on climate change models from 13 different agencies....what an accomplishment in solutions they've provided. Of course this is the same government who spent over 100k on a study to see ppls relationships with sea monsters..yes, they really did. But about global cooling, warming, climate change...I'm not denying it may mother exist, I'm not a scientist. My thought is how much are we contributing, what could be done, and would the entire world even cooperate, no probably not and I know an incompetent gov can't fix anything by ordering ppl what to do.
 
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Heat Sources for Planet earth

Any model of climate change or correlations of climate with atmospheric temperatures should include all the contributing heat sources and heat sinks.

A "source" for atmospheric heat supplies heat to the atmosphere, a "sink" removes heat from the atmosphere.

duh..... lessee...... hmmmmmm......

oh yeah, I got it!!!!! The SUN. almost nobody could miss that. What amount of heat comes from the sun? Does that amount vary? Short answer is it is fairly constant with short cycles linked to sunspot activities, which also emit particles that can cause "solar storms" in our upper atmosphere. The variance here is relatively small, and the cycles are short-term, but we see weather changes linked to these. There is some reason to believe there are longer cycles running as well, concurrently, that may link to longer climate cycles, maybe even be important to ice age cycles. .. .. but what to we know, anyway. We've only been "watching" for a hundred years or so.

geologists recognize volcanic activism that seems to peak in certain epochs of the earth history....15-30 million years ago, 150 million years ago. These would reflect deep core processes of convection to the surface, and cyclical increases in radioactive heat generation explained by the settling of heavier nuclei towards the center, increasing nuclear reactgion rates, and such.

At any rate, volcanism does bring heat to the earth surface, including the ocean floors. Even a 1 degree increase in the global temp at that interface would be a significant factor in the correlations being made today with CO2.

Anybody see any discussion of this in IPCC "science"?

Nope. It's not politically relevant "science". How we gonna tax the Earth's core for generating too much heat?


IN this scenario, CO2 ranks not as a "source" but as a "sink" for heat, It merely holds heat, perhaps reducing the overall flux of heat radiated out.

Nobody has discussed the Van Allen belt of particles as a "blanket" that reflects heat or stores heat. It is in continual flux being recharged at times from solar flares and depleted as radiation neutralizes charges and uncharged particles diffuse out of the magnetic field that traps ions, some settling on the earth. We always get some dust coming down, it's the source of our Beryllium, for example.

UN can't tax the Van Allen Belt, either. UN has to find a fearful monster close enough to humans to scare us into accepting a world tax agency.
 

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It's the ocean, stupid

A lot of talk on the Atmosphere being the relevant heat sink with increases in CO2.

Here's a little bit about the Ocean, proportionately speaking.

http://www.sciencebits.com/IceCoreTruth


It is presumed that at depth the ocean is filled with 4 degree C water because that's the highest density water. That's why ice floats, folks, and why we don't have undersea glaciers thousands of feet thick worldwide.

salt content affects the specific heat of water, the density, and can determine mixing currents. Our vast ocean currents are thought to be driven by variations in salt content. Pure water melting of the polar ice stores each summer, coming in from big rivers like the Mississippi, and such. Thought to be part of the El Nino/La Nina weather pattern.

So far, our IPCC "science" has simply ignored most of the ocean. Good science would consider not only surface temps but layer temps at 10m, 30m, 50m 100m 250m 500m, 1000m, 2000m and the deeper trenches as well. But particularly useful would be the data within 100m. "waves" of heat propagation have been observed at these depths and linked to super typhoon events.
 
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It's Galactic Orbitals, Stupid.
There has been some discussion of the Sun moving along with its spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy, periodically encountering changing fluxes of particulates/clouds/hydrogen and othersuch stuff, and possible effects in changing solar output or the energy flux received on planet earth. Earth occasionally has volcanic events that put enough stuff up there we have a few years of dark "winter". No reason to think the upper atmosphere isn't warm enough, but in the shade down here, it gets cccccold. The galactic "cycle" would potentially be very significant as a driver of earth climate. What we gonna do 'bout that. Can't tax the Milky Way or levy steep fines for environmental contamination. Nope, gotta tax little people somehow.

Here is a tidbit from some real communists, VI Vernadsky and real socialists, not the convenient fascist hijackers of social ideals.... LaRouchians.

https://larouchepac.com/20150520/ver...-and-evolution
 

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Source of money, imo.

We create **** so we can create more money. It's beautiful.
Testing them could be as simple as getting rid of those that are coming into their shelf life time (more about containment and functionality).It is probably easier and less expensive to use them then to break them down and try to get rid of the waste.
 
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Generally not wise to get your science news from a .com. Some exceptions, of course, I highly doubt this is one of them.
Yeah. I rthink commend .gov websites to get your information from that will, in the end, mean taking more of your money away from you, by the only entity that can actually confiscate it from you to redistribute.

Definitely .gov
 

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How the hell did the GD weather become political anyway? I'm so damn confused by it. So there might be a chance with all the chemicals we're pumping out that we might be screwing up the environment? And that sounds so far fetched why? Also who gives a **** either way? Isn't the whole point that we should have less pollution? Why the hell is anyone opposing that again?

I guess it was because Al Gore was involved. This all came on the heels of him being a part of a contentious election, so sides were drawn along political lines. It's ridiculous.
 

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I always got a chuckle out of leftist global warming nuts mocking people who believe in God and failing to see that climate change/global warming is their religion. They base their entire beliefs on the words of someone else and get fighting mad if it's challenged. But then again, leftism is every bit an ideology as a religious ideology is.
 
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Cap and trade, carbon taxes, Paris Agreement, Solyndra, etc. etc.

The Paris Agreement is a treaty that our Senate never ratified. Obama thought that he could get around that technicality with his cellphone and pen. China (world's largest CO2 emitter) really made fools of our negotiators with that deal. Under the deal, China doesn't have to begin cutting emissions until 2030 while we have to cut immediately. Trump should now send it for a vote where it will need 2/3 majority for passage. I bet that the Paris deal wouldn't get 30 votes for it.
 
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Can we get back to the flat earth and underground alien wars? This Global Warming stuff is putting me to sleep.
 

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Can we get back to the flat earth and underground alien wars? This Global Warming stuff is putting me to sleep.

Come on now. Believing the popular politically correct narrative and refusing to allow any type of scientific questioning is exactly what makes things like a flat earth and man made global warming entertaining.