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We deserve better.
Know Better Not You GIF by Mike Hitt
 

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I read somewhere that more than a couple wrestling recruits take their senior year of high school online to train in the State College area.
 
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So, do they not wrestle their Senior HS year. Or just do tournaments or what? (Sorry, I’m not too “up” on this sort of thing)

They don't wrestle their senior season year of HS, as they are not attending their HS, and as such ineligible to wrestle for their school. They make the determination that a year of wrestling with the NLWC is better for their advancement than a year of wrestling at their local high school. They take classes online to complete their high school degree, but they are living in the State College area, and practicing year round.
 

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It’s been around 14 hours since WE won the national championship, and I haven’t heard about any blue chip recruits committing to US. What the hell is Cael doing?

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BTN was saying 13th this AM. o_O
Back before it was an NCAA thing, there was a year (1920s?) when PSU claimed a "MNC" in grappling.
They may have been counting that one. Or maybe no one there can count. Flip a coin.
 

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Back before it was an NCAA thing, there was a year (1920s?) when PSU claimed a "MNC" in grappling.
They may have been counting that one. Or maybe no one there can count. Flip a coin.
Well that is when ok state won all over there championships for the most part. Kind of like Yale in the 1800’s and Michigan winning 9 championships all in the wagon wheel days
 
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Well that is when ok state won all over there championships for the most part. Kind of like Yale in the 1800’s and Michigan winning 9 championships all in the wagon wheel days
NCAA Wrestling Championships started in the late 1920s. I am not sure how many Oklahoma State "claims", but since the NCAA tourney started Oklahoma State (previously Oklahoma A&M) has won 34 titles.

Their last was in 2006 - and that was the last time a non-Big Ten team won (since then, PSU has won 11, Iowa 4, Minnesota and Ohio State 1 each)
 

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So, do they not wrestle their Senior HS year. Or just do tournaments or what? (Sorry, I’m not too “up” on this sort of thing)
Correct.
Zack Ryder has aspirations of becoming a collegiate, national and Olympic wrestling champion. So he’s taking an unprecedented step to get a head start on his future.

Ryder, who recently turned 17, is going to forego his senior season at Minisink Valley High School, instead joining an elite wrestling club at the doorstep of his college choice, Penn State.
 
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NCAA Wrestling Championships started in the late 1920s. I am not sure how many Oklahoma State "claims", but since the NCAA tourney started Oklahoma State (previously Oklahoma A&M) has won 34 titles.

Their last was in 2006 - and that was the last time a non-Big Ten team won (since then, PSU has won 11, Iowa 4, Minnesota and Ohio State 1 each)
My point exactly
NCAA championships: 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1946, 1948, 1949, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1966, 1968, 1971,
 

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Great job… unreal! I used to chuckle when the NC was over before the finals even began. Now, these guys wrap it up on Friday nite after the semifinals. PSU Wrestling is simply the best, a true dynasty.
Sanderson could go down as the greatest coach in any sport, EVER! He is barely in his 40s with no signs of slowing in this juggernaut. Amazing job and coach.
 

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Since Sanderson has been here, PSU's NC have been won by an average of 31.5 points.

Thats Nice GIF
 

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NLWC members are allowed to train with PSU wrestlers!! So PSU wrestlers train with stars like David Taylor, Kyle Dake, and many others. I am pretty darn sure of that!! Obviously NLWC train all year and get stipends. And prepare for international competitions. Taylor is aiming to get Olympic gold again and Dake has won every award except Olympic gold so he hopes to get it this summer in Parisl
 
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Safe to say the NLWC is off campus and not a part of the university?

Thanks

Well, it's a little complicated.

A long time ago, USA Wrestling kind of had no formal structure for their elite Olympic wrestling programs (freestyle and Greco-Roman). Then they tried to bring everyone to one location, but that didn't lend itself to other aspects of the wrestlers' lives. So they came up with the Regional Training Center (RTC) concept. It's proved to be very popular, in that most of the top wrestling programs also have RTCs, so they are located at different colleges, the wrestlers can take classes if they want, the coaches of college programs can also offer coaching to the RTC, etc.

The Nittany Lion Wrestling Club is the RTC at Penn State. They practice in the wrestling rooms at the Lorenzo Wrestling Complex, which is the building attached to Rec Hall where PSU wrestling is headquartered. They have a budget that is separate from PSU's budget. And there are staff members of the NLWC that are not on PSU wrestling's staff. So in a literal sense, the NLWC is not part of the university. However, it uses facilities at PSU, and most of its coaches are also PSU wrestling coaches.

I hope that helps.
 
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Well, it's a little complicated.

A long time ago, USA Wrestling kind of had no formal structure for their elite Olympic wrestling programs (freestyle and Greco-Roman). Then they tried to bring everyone to one location, but that didn't lend itself to other aspects of the wrestlers' lives. So they came up with the Regional Training Center (RTC) concept. It's proved to be very popular, in that most of the top wrestling programs also have RTCs, so they are located at different colleges, the wrestlers can take classes if they want, the coaches of college programs can also offer coaching to the RTC, etc.

The Nittany Lion Wrestling Club is the RTC at Penn State. They practice in the wrestling rooms at the Lorenzo Wrestling Complex, which the building attached to Rec Hall where PSU wrestling is headquartered. They have a budget that is separate from PSU's budget. And there are staff members of the NLWC that are not on PSU wrestling's staff. So in a literal sense, the NLWC is not part of the university. However, it uses facilities at PSU, and most of its coaches are also PSU wrestling coaches.

I hope that helps.
serious question is there still a wrestling training center at the DuPont estate? I think from the movie it was one of the best. TIA
 

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Well, it's a little complicated.

A long time ago, USA Wrestling kind of had no formal structure for their elite Olympic wrestling programs (freestyle and Greco-Roman). Then they tried to bring everyone to one location, but that didn't lend itself to other aspects of the wrestlers' lives. So they came up with the Regional Training Center (RTC) concept. It's proved to be very popular, in that most of the top wrestling programs also have RTCs, so they are located at different colleges, the wrestlers can take classes if they want, the coaches of college programs can also offer coaching to the RTC, etc.

The Nittany Lion Wrestling Club is the RTC at Penn State. They practice in the wrestling rooms at the Lorenzo Wrestling Complex, which the building attached to Rec Hall where PSU wrestling is headquartered. They have a budget that is separate from PSU's budget. And there are staff members of the NLWC that are not on PSU wrestling's staff. So in a literal sense, the NLWC is not part of the university. However, it uses facilities at PSU, and most of its coaches are also PSU wrestling coaches.

I hope that helps.
It does. And, raises more questions, but I’ll say “thank you” and not hijack the thread.

OL
 
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serious question is there still a wrestling training center at the DuPont estate? I think from the movie it was one of the best. TIA

lol

The Foxcatcher training center on the DuPont estate (Liseter Hall which John DuPont renamed Foxcatcher Farm after his mother died) has been broken up into a housing development and a new campus for Episcopal Academy.

A couple of interesting things about the estate:

- while everyone knows of DuPont, and John DuPont's father was a DuPont, the estate was a wedding gift from the bride's father. The mom, Jean Liseter Autin, was the daughter of the president of Baldwin Locomotive Works (BLW). There were three main builders of all the steam engines used to pull trains during the steam-engine era, and BLW was one of them. As such, Ms. Autin was quite rich on her own right, but not at the level of her husband, William DuPont. John DuPont's parents divorced when he was a kid, and she kept the property, and it passed on to John.
- DuPont wrote a will either while accused or after he was convicted, that left his estate to Bulgarian wrestler Valentin Yordanov. He was an Olympic wrestler that had trained at Foxcatcher. After DuPont's death, a couple of his nieces and nephews filed suit claiming that DuPont was not of sound mind when he made the will, but that case was dismissed, so Yordanov ended up getting all of the estate.
 
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The Foxcatcher training center on the DuPont estate (Liseter Hall which John DuPont renamed Foxcatcher Farm after his mother died) has been broken up into a housing development and a new campus for Episcopal Academy.

A couple of interesting things about the estate:

- while everyone knows of DuPont, and John DuPont's father was a DuPont, the estate was a wedding gift from the bride's father. The mom, Jean Liseter Autin, was the daughter of the president of Baldwin Locomotive Works (BLW). There were three main builders of all the steam engines used to pull trains during the steam-engine era, and BLW was one of them. As such, Ms. Autin was quite rich on her on right, but not at the level of her husband, William DuPont. John DuPont's parents divorced when he was a kid, and she kept the property, and it passed on to John.
- DuPont wrote a will either while accessed or after he was convicted, that left his estate to Bulgarian wrestler Valentin Yordanov. He was an Olympic wrestler that had trained at Foxcatcher. After DuPont's death, a couple of his nieces and nephews followed suit claiming that DuPont was not of sound mind when he made the will, but that cased was dismissed, so Yordanov ended up getting all of the estate.
thanks for the lesson!!
 

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Well, it's a little complicated.

A long time ago, USA Wrestling kind of had no formal structure for their elite Olympic wrestling programs (freestyle and Greco-Roman). Then they tried to bring everyone to one location, but that didn't lend itself to other aspects of the wrestlers' lives. So they came up with the Regional Training Center (RTC) concept. It's proved to be very popular, in that most of the top wrestling programs also have RTCs, so they are located at different colleges, the wrestlers can take classes if they want, the coaches of college programs can also offer coaching to the RTC, etc.

The Nittany Lion Wrestling Club is the RTC at Penn State. They practice in the wrestling rooms at the Lorenzo Wrestling Complex, which the building attached to Rec Hall where PSU wrestling is headquartered. They have a budget that is separate from PSU's budget. And there are staff members of the NLWC that are not on PSU wrestling's staff. So in a literal sense, the NLWC is not part of the university. However, it uses facilities at PSU, and most of its coaches are also PSU wrestling coaches.

I hope that helps.

OOOO, as a finance geek (okay, retired finance geek), that explanation generates a ton of questions.

1) Does NLWC pay rent to Penn State for facility use? (Could be a nominal amount.)
2) Does NLWC compensate Penn State coaches? (Again, could be a nominal amount.)
3) Etc., etc., etc.

Not asking you to answer, Tom. Just spitting out finance geek questions.