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WVU82_rivals

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Centers for Disease Control now says 24,000 to 64,000 Americans have died from ordinary flu since October.

Nobody seems to mind.

 

mule_eer

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Centers for Disease Control now says 24,000 to 64,000 Americans have died from ordinary flu since October.

Nobody seems to mind.

How many Americans have gotten the flu since October? The concern is the death rate, i.e. deaths per number of cases, not total number of deaths. That goes back to h1n1 also, a .02% death rate.
 

Mntneer

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How many Americans have gotten the flu since October? The concern is the death rate, i.e. deaths per number of cases, not total number of deaths. That goes back to h1n1 also, a .02% death rate.

I'm hoping our death rates stays around 1.5%.
 

Mntneer

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I'm hoping for better, but 1.5% would be better than the worldwide stats. I wonder if dead whistleblowers in China impacted their rate.

I think without a doubt. It's interesting to see how bad the rates have gotten in some very progressive nations with outstanding Health Care systems. Just goes to show what a surge of patients will do to the systems.
 

mule_eer

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I think without a doubt. It's interesting to see how bad the rates have gotten in some very progressive nations with outstanding Health Care systems. Just goes to show what a surge of patients will do to the systems.
No healthcare system is designed to have a significant percentage of the population seeking healthcare at the same time. That's true in a government run system or a private sector one. The concern in the private sectornone is the amount of financial burden on individuals after the fact. In a government run system, that financial burden falls to the state. It's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Somehow that medical care has to be paid for.
 

Pospecteer

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I think without a doubt. It's interesting to see how bad the rates have gotten in some very progressive nations with outstanding Health Care systems. Just goes to show what a surge of patients will do to the systems.

Can you document one case in the US where someone died due to not having access to care?
 

Pospecteer

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No healthcare system is designed to have a significant percentage of the population seeking healthcare at the same time. That's true in a government run system or a private sector one. The concern in the private sectornone is the amount of financial burden on individuals after the fact. In a government run system, that financial burden falls to the state. It's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Somehow that medical care has to be paid for.

CMS determines the number of hospital and ICU beds. Also the availability of the level of trauma care. That does not change regardless of the Private or public sector
 

mule_eer

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Can you document one case in the US where someone died due to not having access to care?
I think that would be hard to document. If they don't get care and die from it, it could take a while to figure that out. Why waste a test to figure out if Joe died from covid-19 or pneumonia? That's not to say that I think the current number would be high. It could get higher if the number of critical cases gets high enough. I think you could say the same in countries with socialized healthcare though. It's going to primarily be a question of demand exceeding supply, if it ever comes to that.
 

Pospecteer

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I think that would be hard to document. If they don't get care and die from it, it could take a while to figure that out. Why waste a test to figure out if Joe died from covid-19 or pneumonia? That's not to say that I think the current number would be high. It could get higher if the number of critical cases gets high enough. I think you could say the same in countries with socialized healthcare though. It's going to primarily be a question of demand exceeding supply, if it ever comes to that.
I am talking about where our healthcare system failed due to Trump? You know they would report on it?