Without counting some big boosters helping, and surely they would, if every season ticket holder was willing to pay $300 we could raise enough money for the 12 million dollar buyout to get of this disaster...this isn't rocket science and is not as hard as it is being made out to be...what say you ,and would you be willing to contribute season ticket holder or not. #GOATS
$200-300...Would You Be Willing?
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No. I have had season tickets since 2006, where has that ever increasing expense got us? They have to fix it without my money, because I am tired of spending it on failure.
Uh no! He is owed about $4 million a year over the next 3 years. Our athletics department budget is close to $120 million a year. I'll let them use 3% of the budget to handle that.
All I'm saying is this is not basketball where the money would already be available...guess I would have to know who the next HC was going to be first,
NO!! Barnhart's mess let him fix it. I've spent enough over the years.
I wouldn't feel comfortable funding another one of Barnhart's hiring mistakes. So No.
"surely THEY would help" As I said on another thread, it's always interesting to see how quick people without skin in the game are to spend other people's money.
You want to give more of your money to get rid of a coach without knowing how the replacement is going to be? Save yourself some time and just flush that money down the toilet, because until Mitch is removed from the football process that is exactly what you would be doing with that money anyway.
The AD should send each ticket holder $200-300 dollars for enduring these fiascos.
I'm with the other guys, the AD dropped the ball and they should foot the bill. We've already paid more than enough in time and money. I could be convinced if it meant a guaranteed, surefire, proven big time winner was going to replace him.
I really like Stoops from what I've seen and heard from him. I really wanted him to work because he felt like he could be "our guy." I still hope they can pull a rabbit out of the hat and save this thing. We've just seen this script play out too many times over the years to see a happy ending at this point.
I really like Stoops from what I've seen and heard from him. I really wanted him to work because he felt like he could be "our guy." I still hope they can pull a rabbit out of the hat and save this thing. We've just seen this script play out too many times over the years to see a happy ending at this point.
Any buyout would come from us fans as it is...
ticket sales, merchandise, food n drink on game day, donations, k-fund, etc...
If everybody was going to pitch in $300 more dollars for something i'd rather it be to help lure a top coach and staff, not a bail out for MB...
If the athletic department wants to write the check to oust CMS and then announce that they need additional help, from the fan base that already gives enough, to go get a top HC and staff with P5 experience, then I'm in for writing a check.
One thing UK brass will always have, that allows them to drag their feet, is the fact that Kentucky fans are so loyal not only because of a natural devotion and caring but also because UK fans don't have a lot of other options.
Lexington swells to the most populated city/area in the state on game days. The whole state comes in.
Florida does not pack up the family and go to Gainesville. Gators will show up in force if things are going well, but It's a more segmented state. Seminoles go to Tallahasse, Canes go to Miami, UCF and USF go support their team. They do not show up and support one another, and all of them have other things to do should things not go well. Disney, the beach, pro sports, etc. There's also a significant portion of the population who are from other states who don't give a hoot about any of the home teams.
In Kentucky, WKU and EKU fans are UK fans and they will both show up for UK game days. Heck a good chunk of UL fans will cheer for UK all but 1 game a year, and pack up the family and head east for weekend if the cards are out of town.
USC can fire Kiffin 5 games in because people in Los Angeles and California in general have other things they can do.
Same goes for a lot of programs in states where the demographics and loyalties are a lot different than UK and where the fans have a lot more ways they can spend their money and weekends.
Long story short, we can holler all we want, but in 4 weeks we could very well 3-3 and once again pacified with mediocrity and the faintest hope of a bowl.
MB knows all of this. All CMS or any UK coach has to do is beat 3 cream puffs, 2 bottom sec opponents, and sneak in a pleasant surprise in the form of UL or a mid level SEC. Do that and it's a fever pitch in the bluegrass, MB can raise ticket prices, K-fund minimums, corporate box prices, etc...
ticket sales, merchandise, food n drink on game day, donations, k-fund, etc...
If everybody was going to pitch in $300 more dollars for something i'd rather it be to help lure a top coach and staff, not a bail out for MB...
If the athletic department wants to write the check to oust CMS and then announce that they need additional help, from the fan base that already gives enough, to go get a top HC and staff with P5 experience, then I'm in for writing a check.
One thing UK brass will always have, that allows them to drag their feet, is the fact that Kentucky fans are so loyal not only because of a natural devotion and caring but also because UK fans don't have a lot of other options.
Lexington swells to the most populated city/area in the state on game days. The whole state comes in.
Florida does not pack up the family and go to Gainesville. Gators will show up in force if things are going well, but It's a more segmented state. Seminoles go to Tallahasse, Canes go to Miami, UCF and USF go support their team. They do not show up and support one another, and all of them have other things to do should things not go well. Disney, the beach, pro sports, etc. There's also a significant portion of the population who are from other states who don't give a hoot about any of the home teams.
In Kentucky, WKU and EKU fans are UK fans and they will both show up for UK game days. Heck a good chunk of UL fans will cheer for UK all but 1 game a year, and pack up the family and head east for weekend if the cards are out of town.
USC can fire Kiffin 5 games in because people in Los Angeles and California in general have other things they can do.
Same goes for a lot of programs in states where the demographics and loyalties are a lot different than UK and where the fans have a lot more ways they can spend their money and weekends.
Long story short, we can holler all we want, but in 4 weeks we could very well 3-3 and once again pacified with mediocrity and the faintest hope of a bowl.
MB knows all of this. All CMS or any UK coach has to do is beat 3 cream puffs, 2 bottom sec opponents, and sneak in a pleasant surprise in the form of UL or a mid level SEC. Do that and it's a fever pitch in the bluegrass, MB can raise ticket prices, K-fund minimums, corporate box prices, etc...
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Better use of that money would be investment in facilities. A buyout won't improve us for this year, next year, or the year after that. However, an multi-million dollar investment in football facilities will pay dividends for years to come.
It means we can complain all we want but UK brass knows that after 50 years of mediocre at best football, big blue nation will still show up on game days.
The city literally swells with people who are going to the game, and people who just want to be in town for the atmosphere and partake in the festivities.
The UKAA has or has access to the money. Don't let anybody tell you differently. But the questions are: "Is it really worth it and where do we go from here"?
Peace
EDIT: This post was SUPPOSED to go under the "$17.898M" thread...damn touch screen devices. [laughing]
Peace
EDIT: This post was SUPPOSED to go under the "$17.898M" thread...damn touch screen devices. [laughing]
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This is my take on where the program is right now, http://www.armchairallamericans.com/state-program-kentucky/ would love if you all could give it a view. It is my first article ever written. Fire Stoops
Louisville MSA is 1.2-1.3 million people.
Lexington is 400k-500k.
Are you suggesting 700k-800k travel to lexington for gameday?
Apologies if I'm the only one confused.
Out of all that rambling i did, you're hung up on this?
The Louisville MSA includes several surrounding counties. The louisville Jefferson co population is roughly 600,000. The lexington fayette population is roughly 300,000.
This was a fun fact passed on to me by somebody, I'm not sure how accurate it is or if it is the case every single home game weekend. The basic gist of the conversation was that lexington sees a significant influx of people on game day, and sometimes so much so that for a day the city has more people than louisville.
Like I said, it isn't just a stadium going crowd, people come just to tailgate, hit up the downtown and campus area scene, etc...the BBN shows up full force because we don't have a lot of other things like a lot of other states with big cities, pro sports, multiple major college athletic programs, beaches, etc...
Yes, if he is fired without cause (being bad is not a cause) he is due the remainder of his contract to be paid on a monthly basis. If he is fired after December 1, 2017 he is due 80% of his remaining salary.
OP, it would have to be about $300-$350 for every ticket held by a season ticket holder...so if you have 2 tickets...$600-$700.
I have to LOL at the "let Mitch pay for it" sentiment as if the money is going to come out of Mitch's pocket. The money would come out of the athletics budget leaving less money for doing things like paying coaches. Tennessee got in a real bind a few years ago when they had multiple coaches buyouts they were having to pay. Their cash reserve got down to the lowest of any school in the SEC.
Also, given that every AD (Shively, Lancaster, Hagan, Ivy, Newton, Barnhart) at UK over the past 60 years has hired football coaches and none of those coaches have been successful, what makes you think that the secret is in the 7th AD?
Everyone throws names around like if you just asked any coach, they'd take the job. I'm not so sure. The job has proven to be a career killer for every young coach that has ever taken the job. Nobody has left the job and been successful as a HC. If you're an "up and coming" coach do you risk your career?
I have to LOL at the "let Mitch pay for it" sentiment as if the money is going to come out of Mitch's pocket. The money would come out of the athletics budget leaving less money for doing things like paying coaches. Tennessee got in a real bind a few years ago when they had multiple coaches buyouts they were having to pay. Their cash reserve got down to the lowest of any school in the SEC.
Also, given that every AD (Shively, Lancaster, Hagan, Ivy, Newton, Barnhart) at UK over the past 60 years has hired football coaches and none of those coaches have been successful, what makes you think that the secret is in the 7th AD?
Everyone throws names around like if you just asked any coach, they'd take the job. I'm not so sure. The job has proven to be a career killer for every young coach that has ever taken the job. Nobody has left the job and been successful as a HC. If you're an "up and coming" coach do you risk your career?
No. The board of regents and the president of the university would not allow the ad to hire a coach based solely on his ability to coach. They've already shown as much. I'm now convinced mb is only part of the problem. The power holders at the university don't place winning Football very high on the priority list.
I heard Walmart sales were down last month, let's send them 300 bucks on top of what we already give them. Even if the product we get from them is declining, they shouldn't suffer losses it's not nice.
Its absurd and something that someone just made up.
There is an influx of people because the UK fanbase extends over the entire state.
For UofL, a majority of the fanbase lives in the metro area of louisville.
As to the surrounding counties, the city of louisville has long outgrown jefferson county. So including oldham, bullet, etc is not some way to fluff the numbers, its simply what has to be done when talking about a metro area. Louisville out grew the county borders 20+ years ago.
Anyway, as to me getting hung up on it, you used it as a premise for your post. In an effort to understand you, I asked for more info. I didn't just assume it was based on some random comment from sombody who doesnt know what they are talking about, even though thats exactly what it is. (not you, but the person you heard say this)
Ultimately, the very premise is completely ridiculous. Almost every living person in the state, outside of the louisville MSA, would have to travel to lexington to make lexington the biggest city in kentucky for a day.
I'll go $300. But there's a catch. Stoops has to work it off, he owes me $300/my hourly wage. So for the average guy making $20/hr, Stoops would owe them 15 hours of work. Cleaning your house, mowing the lawn, shoveling manure, etc... Not so much a buyout for Stoops as a re-assignment of his duties.
J
well in fairness we did downsize the stadium so it's really only 650,000 at CWS each Gameday.
Look at you making strawman arguments again. Who said it was monopoly money? Its real money from their real yearly budget but you dont want to talk about facts. Hell you thought that we had to pay him on one lump payment.
Yea that 120 is all free and not allocated for , it's just sitting there unclaimed . Or does it have fixed expenditures that must be taken care of , a buyout is not one of those meaning the % is a higher figure of the remaining budget . You keep pumping bs to everybody and watch as they get miffed at UK for not just buying out rent a center style , I tabbed you as the rent a center type .
OP, seriously? Giving Barnhart more money would be like giving the government more money to offset all the inept decision making, wasteful spending and corruption that's going on.