2016 standard?
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I expected this post was coming. After your epic beat down by the hands of Keaton, I knew you'd troll your way back to an easier target (your attempt at Huggins didn't work out so well).
No matter what our football record is, Marshall's not getting back on the schedule and WVU isn't leaving the B12 for the AAC - I see right through you.
No matter what our football record is, Marshall's not getting back on the schedule and WVU isn't leaving the B12 for the AAC - I see right through you.
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Man up and state what you consider acceptable. Evading the issue by being an *** might impress the moron cohort, but everyone else knopws you are stupid and gutless.
So, what is it for you?
I say 9-4, but I expected that the idiots would be afraid to put down any number because in their tender little hearts they know that any number the put down that isn't pathetically low for WVU risks committing to a standard they don't think Dana can meet.
I have no idea what you are talking about with "attempt at Huggins." I'm pretty sure none you idiots are Huggins.
So, what is it for you?
I say 9-4, but I expected that the idiots would be afraid to put down any number because in their tender little hearts they know that any number the put down that isn't pathetically low for WVU risks committing to a standard they don't think Dana can meet.
I have no idea what you are talking about with "attempt at Huggins." I'm pretty sure none you idiots are Huggins.
Unfortunately, you're not in a position to demand anything from me, not even my opinions.
To the OP--you do realize WVU still has a bowl game this season right? In a couple of weeks.
Its a real game. This season. Do you even care? Obviously not.
So why are you so hellbent on records for next year, or this past year? You clearly care nothing at all about WVU football or athletics and are just here to troll. Fan of another school I'm guessing but its sad that you are so infatuated with WVU that you spend night and day on these boards trying to attack the Mountaineer programs.
Its a real game. This season. Do you even care? Obviously not.
So why are you so hellbent on records for next year, or this past year? You clearly care nothing at all about WVU football or athletics and are just here to troll. Fan of another school I'm guessing but its sad that you are so infatuated with WVU that you spend night and day on these boards trying to attack the Mountaineer programs.
as its been stated several times; 7-9 wins will be par for this program in the big 12. Occasionally we might do better, 10 wins once or twice a decade. Nothing wrong with that. This is not the big east anymore. The standards have changed due to conference change.
It's apparent that my opinion carries great weight or else you wouldn't be begging for it. Unfortunately, I won't provide any credibility to your trolling by actually answering your silly questions, but it's obvious you are craving my recognition, so by why of this post - consider yourself recognized.
And there are those that spend day and night on others message boards to troll no matter what and could care less about the athletic programs at a school. Then again by your obsession you care alot--you obviously HATE West Virginia Universities athletics programs--couldn't be more clear.
I'd counter with those that love the school are the ones who disapprove of its coach performing woefully by any metric conceivable by man.
Those so infatuated with the coach they'd rather see the program mired in underachieving mediocrity than admit their crush caused them to misjudge the coach are the ones who don't really support the program.
Those so infatuated with the coach they'd rather see the program mired in underachieving mediocrity than admit their crush caused them to misjudge the coach are the ones who don't really support the program.
OK...............I DEMAND that the Mountaineers go 12-0 next year and win the National Championship. Anything less in unacceptable! Where would you suggest that I send my DEMAND and should I put it in writing or will verbal suffice?
The Big 12 is a challenging conference. Plus, per Dana's comment in an interview, we don't recruit much (if at all) in the states of Texas and Oklahoma - the states in which we play the most. The 2016 defense should a top 3 unit in the conference, while the offense should be improved - if the play calling is better and Howard makes better decisions on third downs. For example, stop trying to throw a low percentage 50-yard bomb on 3rd and 5 when six yards will move the chains.
After opening with Missouri (not a gimme), and playing the conference schedule, I'm afraid that 9-3 would be considered a great 2016 season.
There isn't one person here "infatuated" with the coach or that has a crush on him. What we have are realists-that understand the difficulties WVU's athletics are facing in the new power conference home and don't want to blow it all up because things aren't tremendous overnight. And then we have ignorance driven clowns that ignore all the massive changes WVU has seen over the last several years, post 50,000 threads on their same "get Holgorsen at any cost and destroy the WVU program" agenda, derail everyone else's posts and ruin message boards because even though they don't support the program or even realize WVU is still playing THIS season, until the program is ruined they are determined not to stop with their self serving childish behavior.
Acceptable?
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
Since I have no power to change the outcome of the 2016 season, I guess I will accept whatever happens. I don't have to like it though.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
Since I have no power to change the outcome of the 2016 season, I guess I will accept whatever happens. I don't have to like it though.
Just curious, Chris...what is your reasoning for that given the number of key defensive players who are graduating?
Considering we saw that continue all through the season with no change, I wouldn't count on any improvement until we actually see it.
GoWVU,
We lose Rose on the D-line, which is a significant piece, but return everybody else. Worley, Harper, and Tyler return in the secondary. The losses at LB concerns me the most, but Preston and Al-Benton played well this season. I also like Gibson's 3-3-5 scheme and think we have pretty good depth. Quite honestly, I wasn't always impressed by some of our senior LBs this season.
We lose Rose on the D-line, which is a significant piece, but return everybody else. Worley, Harper, and Tyler return in the secondary. The losses at LB concerns me the most, but Preston and Al-Benton played well this season. I also like Gibson's 3-3-5 scheme and think we have pretty good depth. Quite honestly, I wasn't always impressed by some of our senior LBs this season.
Considering some of them don't appear to be especially gifted physically, I thought they did OK. Kwiatkowski is certainly a loss.
I feel like your sentence above could be fairly said about the secondary play, though, considering they had more natural ability than the LBs and also quite a bit of experience. They were supposed to be a big strength--and were at times--but had some curious lapses as well.
Not sure I agree with you on overall defensive depth, though. Unfortunately it'll be about 9 months before we start getting the answer to that question.
Tcu has won 10 games twice since being in the Big 12 they came from the mountain west. Tcu also has an established coach who had already proven himself. Maybe if DH had better In Game management and actually would recruit a division 1 QB we would exceed the 7-5 threshold that he can't seem to get over. If Gary Patterson was Wvu's coach we would have had better records than 7-5 in 2014 and 2015. If DH was Tcu's coach there would be no way they would have won 10 games in 2014 and 2015 with his poor play calling and clock management. The Big 12 maybe better than the Big East but its not exactly the juggernaut that your making it out to Be. Its just the favorite excuse of the small time mediocrity defending mindset
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Tcu has won 10 games twice since being in the big 12. If Wvu had a coach that knew how to manage games and would actually recruit a division 1 QB then there is no reason we couldn't do the same. If Gary Patterson was Wvu's coach we would have had better records than 7-5 the past 2 seasons. There is no way Tcu could have competed for Big 12 titles with Holgorsons incompetent play calling and clock Management. The Big 12 maybe better than the Big East but on most years the conference is severely overrated. Stop the typical mouth breathing, mediocrity defending excuses
Their are no standards. Whatever Dana manages is either the greatest coaching job in history or someone else's fault. Haven't you learned anything about this board? As long as we beat Kansas and Iowa State in conference Dana is the man. If only because we cant raise the money to fire him!
GoWVU - I agree with your secondary comment. There were numerous plays with Worley that made me think, "well . . . he's definitely not going to be entering the draft early".
I'm cool with 7-5 or 8-4.
Let me guess, OP "doesn't accept mediocrity." I hear many of your type say that, yet you are overweight, live in a run down apartment, and can't pay your child support, but a football team losing a game is unacceptable.
Let me guess, OP "doesn't accept mediocrity." I hear many of your type say that, yet you are overweight, live in a run down apartment, and can't pay your child support, but a football team losing a game is unacceptable.
Was this necessary? Come on. You don't know the guy, yet you attack him personally? I thought you were above this? Guess not. This board has gone to the sh!tter fast. And it's all because people are cool with 4-7 wins per season, a bowl game against lower level major conference teams, and no improvement at key positions. I'm not against Holgerson, I'm not for him. I'm for WVU having the killer instinct and attitude they once had. Even if we may not get there, accepting mediocrity (which is what I call 4-8, 5-7, 6-6, 7-5), even in a difficult conference, is not what the state of WV and native WVians are about. We've always been talked about, underdogs, etc. What I've always loved about MY state is that we shrug those off, shrug off the excuses (all you guys' "reasons" why we can't be better), and get the job done and prove people wrong.
Sorry for my rant, but it just pisses me off to see people get attacked personally because they want to see WVU achieve a little more. Nothing wrong with that.
When in doubt, attack someone's verbal and grammar skills! If you don't care about the success of WVU athletics, why the hell do you even get on here?
The constant negativity gets old when people make post after post saying the exact same ****. They love to ramble on about how they don't settle for mediocrity, but all that says to me is that they live mediocre lives and live vicariously through a football team comprised of teenagers they have never met.
We ALL live vicariously through WVU football and basketball. If you didn't, then why do you post on here so frequently? Since you analyze the behavior of the OP, let me analyze you. What you posting on here tells me is that you live vicariously through WVU football, and when times are good you are "up", and when times are bad you want things to change. I seem to remember a post not too long ago where you were questioning Holgerson's abilities and even said a change was needed. Hmmm......
But....yeah.....only the OP lives "vicariously" through WVU athletics......
I care for their success. My life just doesn't change whether our football team is 7-5 or 10-2 and when a decision is made about the future of Dana at WVU, it won't be because of anything I wrote on a message board. I care about the success of the whole university. You'd be surprised to learn WVU has a bunch of classrooms, desks, labs, libraries, dorms, ect. Lots of students don't even play sports, go figure.
One who strives for excellence will persevere over one who accepts mediocrity and worries about proper grammar
Speak for yourself. College sports are a fun hobby and can serve as a useful escape from the everyday grind but some of us aren't trying to relive their high school glory days on the field.
For me, the athletic programs simply serve as a vehicle to remain connected to the university, a place I really care about, and allow me opportunities to maintain old relationships. I always want the teams to do well, mostly for the players, staff and students - but their successes don't impact my life.
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LOL - Strive for excellence? Unless you're a player, member of the coaching staff or university employee, there's really no success to strive for in this situation. I strive for my own personal excellence and I don't claim the achievements accomplished by others.
Game 1 - home vs Mizzou. Coaching change year for them. We win
Game 2 - neutral site vs BYU. Coaching change year for them. We win
Game 3 - YSU. We aren't Pitt. We don't lose to these guys.
Game 4 - KSU at home. Snyder likely gone. We win.
Game 5 - @TTU. Kliff can't coach defense. We win.
Game 6 - TCU at home. No Boykins. Huge roster turnover. We win
Game 7 - @OSU. We lose. OSU likely a top 10 team in 2016
Game 8 - KU at home. Win
Game 9 - @ Texas. Still no QB on their roster. Still no HC on their staff. Win.
Game 10 - OK at home........................ lose. Great game, but we don't come out on top to the NC front runner in 2016
Game 11 - @ISU. Coaching change. We win
Game 12 - Baylor at home..................... Senior night. Big Time Crowd. Hopefully a Night Game. We win in an upset.
10-2. Take it to the bank. There was no 10-2 option on this poll......... because it was done by an amateur.
Game 2 - neutral site vs BYU. Coaching change year for them. We win
Game 3 - YSU. We aren't Pitt. We don't lose to these guys.
Game 4 - KSU at home. Snyder likely gone. We win.
Game 5 - @TTU. Kliff can't coach defense. We win.
Game 6 - TCU at home. No Boykins. Huge roster turnover. We win
Game 7 - @OSU. We lose. OSU likely a top 10 team in 2016
Game 8 - KU at home. Win
Game 9 - @ Texas. Still no QB on their roster. Still no HC on their staff. Win.
Game 10 - OK at home........................ lose. Great game, but we don't come out on top to the NC front runner in 2016
Game 11 - @ISU. Coaching change. We win
Game 12 - Baylor at home..................... Senior night. Big Time Crowd. Hopefully a Night Game. We win in an upset.
10-2. Take it to the bank. There was no 10-2 option on this poll......... because it was done by an amateur.
An adult who doesn't know the difference between their, they're and there has no right demanding excellence from anyone for anything.
Then, stop posting about WVU sports or commenting towards others who do post about WVU sports. Go find an academic message board and discuss the classrooms, tables, chairs, books, etc. there. This is a SPORTS message board. It's easy for someone to hide behind the "I'm all about the welfare of the university" statements when times aren't very good. Then when times are great, that same someone becomes superfan #1. Go figure....
the OP is correct. Following WVU should be a hobby. No grown man/women should ever live vicariously through a bunch of teenage student athletes. If so, I would question their maturity level and low self esteem as an adult.