Toggle sidebar

2023-24 NET ratings thread

G

GrandRapidsCatFan

Redshirt
Dec 7, 2009
212
1
18
curdog said:
If it makes you feel better

If it makes you feel better, the team with the highest Net ranking to make the tourney is Rutgers at 77 (can’t remember the year). Also, the highest Net ranking to not make the tourney is 37 (I forget the team).
Click to expand...
Yeah, I think I've seen those stats, and the 37 missing out combined with our dismal record away from home is what concerns me, though I'm not sure why that team at 37 was excluded. There's certainly plenty of precedent to exclude a team in the 50's though.

Rutgers at 77 was two years ago, if I recall correctly
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

Junior
May 29, 2001
7,290
340
83
NUCat320 said:
Currently in 96 of 98 bracket matrix fields.
Click to expand...
Of course I was curious about the two. One is just some guy who tweets and has just 602 followers. Have no idea who he is or why his tweets (which has no commentary - just a list) are included on this list. I wonder if I could get on the Bracket Matrix by doing almost nothing.

The other one is some awful website called The Sports Report, and although there is a 2/19 date on its last update, the heading says "1/30/2024" and the commentary indicates it's from three weeks ago. In other words, sloppy and/or not up to date.

I wonder how you get on the Bracket Matrix list. It's nice to see it all aggregated to get some idea of where your team is, but I bet there is a lot of just following the herd, not unlike Oscar prognostication sites.
 
G

GrandRapidsCatFan

Redshirt
Dec 7, 2009
212
1
18
TejasCat said:
Gonzaga is NET #23 and on the bubble (11 seed now on bracket matrix).
Click to expand...
The West Coast conference doesn't get two bids, ever. If Gonzaga does get in without winning the conference, that's exactly the kind of selection that I fear puts an NU bid in peril. Someone has to lose out if two from the WCC get in
 
N

NUCat320

Senior
Dec 4, 2005
19,469
495
0
GrandRapidsCatFan said:
The West Coast conference doesn't get two bids, ever. If Gonzaga does get in without winning the conference, that's exactly the kind of selection that I fear puts an NU bid in peril. Someone has to lose out if two from the WCC get in
Click to expand...
WCC usually gets St Mary’s and Gonzaga (and sometimes others?).
 
U

Username Not Available

Sophomore
Dec 24, 2010
3,099
102
63
NUCat320 said:
I’m no expert, but NU would need a colossal collapse to miss the tournament. Say, lose the two road games, lose in the first round of the BTT, and win only one of the three remaining home games.

This team is too good for a collapse. Boo is too much of a talent and he and the Cats are headed for some well-earned rest.
Click to expand...
I want to believe and yet, the last three games (without Ty) the score differential has been 4, 3, and 5.
 
P

PurpleWhiteBoy

Redshirt
Feb 25, 2021
5,303
0
0
NUCat320 said:
I’m no expert, but NU would need a colossal collapse to miss the tournament. Say, lose the two road games, lose in the first round of the BTT, and win only one of the three remaining home games.
Click to expand...

If we go 2-3 the rest of the way, we're 11-9 in a conference that "boasts" 2 teams in the Top 25.
If we then won a Big Ten tournament game, I'd put us at 50/50 to be selected.

If we can get to 12-8, I think we are likely to get into NCAA even if we lose in our first Big Ten tournament game.
 
S

Styre

Senior
Oct 14, 2004
7,733
407
83
GrandRapidsCatFan said:
The West Coast conference doesn't get two bids, ever. If Gonzaga does get in without winning the conference, that's exactly the kind of selection that I fear puts an NU bid in peril. Someone has to lose out if two from the WCC get in
Click to expand...

???

The WCC had two bids last year and three the year before that.
 
H

Hungry Jack

All-Conference
Nov 17, 2008
37,203
2,691
67
We have been very close on road, with those OT losses to PU and Minny, tied late at Nebby and Wisc, and a one possession loss at RU. This team travels well .
 
V

Vassar69

Sophomore
Feb 16, 2019
959
142
0
PurpleWhiteBoy said:
If we go 2-3 the rest of the way, we're 11-9 in a conference that "boasts" 2 teams in the Top 25.
If we then won a Big Ten tournament game, I'd put us at 50/50 to be selected.
Click to expand...
Nah I think in this scenario the odds are 90/10. I think you overestimate the resumes of the rest of the field. The bubble is extremely weak this year.
 
R

RoseBowl2022

Redshirt
Jun 6, 2021
41
0
6
After last night's games:
  • Maryland moved up (#70) despite the loss, keeping our home win as a Quad 2 W and our road game next week as a Quad 1 game.
  • Minnesota is at #76, moving them closer to the top 75. That would put the Minnesota games in the same Quads as Maryland if they make the move into the top 75.
  • Michigan State moved down to #24. Unlikely, but it would take another upset loss or two to move them out of the top 30 and pushing our home win from Quad 1 to 2.
 
N

NUCat320

Senior
Dec 4, 2005
19,469
495
0
If NU beats on a full court pass from Martinelli to Nicholson, can we declare that the win “clinches a berth”? Or should they wait until the Iowa or Gophs home game to do that?
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

Junior
May 29, 2001
7,290
340
83
Iowa beating Michigan State in East Lansing helps NU in the standings, but now it means Iowa can beat good teams on the road.

Iowa at NU on 3/2.

It also means Michigan State can lose to good teams at home!

NU at Michigan State on 3/6.
 
AdamOnFirst

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
9,730
1,378
113
Just. Win. Baby.

The cats are very solidly on the right side of the bubble. They aren’t even a very bubbly team right now. Take care of business and it’s a done deal. Slip a little and sweat, but probably stay on the good side of the bubble. Just win, baby!
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

Junior
May 29, 2001
7,290
340
83
Agree Adam. We all get nervous and nothing is for sure until you see the name on Selection Sunday, but all signs are pointing to NU being solidly in right now. They just can't lose a bunch of games down the stretch. Win against Michigan tomorrow and then they get a week to watch other bubble teams lose and be even more solidly in. Let's go Cats.
 
N

NUAlum2010

Redshirt
Dec 14, 2010
80
3
0
phatcat said:
Not defending it, but only 2 B1G teams have more road wins. The whole conference is 🤮 on the road
Click to expand...
It’s not just the B1G. When you look at some of the other power conference teams rated ahead of NU in NET you see similar - if not worse - road records. These teams are all ahead of NU in NET with the same or fewer road wins:

Xavier (55): 2-6
Virginia Tech (52): 1-7
St John’s (49): 2-6
Utah (46): 2-6
Colorado (42): 2-7
Mississippi State (41): 1-6
Oklahoma (40): 2-4
Texas (38): 3-4
Villanova (34): 3-6
Florida (29): 3-4
Texas Tech (27): 2-5
Wake Forest (26): 2-7
Kansas (17): 3-5
BYU (11): 2-5
Auburn (7): 3-4

Then there’s Nebraska, Michigan State and Wisconsin in the B1G with better NET ratings and 1, 3 and 3 road wins respectively.

If NU somehow split at Maryland and MSU they would have 4 road wins which is going to be as good or better than most teams seeded 6+ from power conferences.
 
E

elgatoloco_rivals308553

Redshirt
May 29, 2001
2,860
28
0
The Athletic, reading tea leaves from the NCAA committee's initial seeding, says that committee seems to favor Quad 1 wins and ESPN's Strength of Record (27)/Strength of Schedule (41), all good signs for NU. The writers felt NU was in strong position to make the field but not a lock.
 
GatoLouco

GatoLouco

Sophomore
Nov 13, 2019
5,636
116
63
SmellyCat said:
Iowa beating Michigan State in East Lansing helps NU in the standings, but now it means Iowa can beat good teams on the road.

Iowa at NU on 3/2.

It also means Michigan State can lose to good teams at home!

NU at Michigan State on 3/6.
Click to expand...
Transitive rules will drive you mad mate.
 
X

xxxbobxxx

Sophomore
Mar 12, 2005
10,806
163
43
Hungry Jack said:
Outside of the egregious Borg call at RU, I don't really think the refs had a major influence on the outcome.
Click to expand...
Seem to recall it pretty ridiculous at Purdue - wasn’t these a slight FT disparity, one never seen before in the history of the world that led our coach to act out a little?

Minny - we were pretty bad but I recall the refs being worse especially re Boo. Was that the game Boo shot the three, got raped on both sides but no call?
 
AdamOnFirst

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
9,730
1,378
113
SmellyCat said:
Agree Adam. We all get nervous and nothing is for sure until you see the name on Selection Sunday, but all signs are pointing to NU being solidly in right now. They just can't lose a bunch of games down the stretch. Win against Michigan tomorrow and then they get a week to watch other bubble teams lose and be even more solidly in. Let's go Cats.
Click to expand...
I’m not even against over-analyzing things, it’s just that with the Indiana win the Cats are pretty solidly in a position where if they just take care of business, and it this point the business to be taken care of is pretty straightforward and highly achievable, there isn’t much to be nervous about. As Fitz would say, all their goals are right in front of them.
 
R

RoseBowl2022

Redshirt
Jun 6, 2021
41
0
6
Minor note, but Minnesota did jump into the top 75 (#73). For now, that pushes our loss to them as a Quad 1 loss, and it makes the upcoming home game a Quad 2 game.
 
N

NUThump

Redshirt
May 29, 2001
1,321
21
38
We are in all 100 brackets with yesterday’s update on bracketmatrix.com. Any combo of 2 more wins gets us in IMHO.
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

Junior
May 29, 2001
7,290
340
83
NUThump said:
We are in all 100 brackets with yesterday’s update on bracketmatrix.com. Any combo of 2 more wins gets us in IMHO.
Click to expand...
One more win and we watch selection Sunday with interest. Two more and we watch with confidence.
 
G

Gatabowl

Senior
Nov 30, 2022
2,013
491
68
Secho99 said:
Teams from the same conference can’t face each other until the Sweet 16 if they played twice during the regular season. If you played three times (including conference tourney) you aren’t allowed to face each other until the Elite 8.
Click to expand...
Sounds like we’re kicking Purdue’s *** to go to the final four. I can hear the whining already…
 
R

RoseBowl2022

Redshirt
Jun 6, 2021
41
0
6
Monday opponents update after the weekend of games:
  • Our win over Rhode Island (#201) moved from Quad 3 to 4 due to URI's ugly loss to LaSalle.
  • Minnesota's loss to Nebraska pushed them down to #78, moving the road loss from Quad 1 to 2 and making the upcoming game a Quad 3 home game...for now.
  • Maryland (#67) now safely in the top 75 after crushing Rutgers in Jersey, so we have a Quad 1 opportunity on Wednesday.
 
S

Styre

Senior
Oct 14, 2004
7,733
407
83
After a 1-0 week, NU is pretty much in the same spot at #53. Barring any sort of horrendous collapse, NU should be in the tournament.

Rhode Island dropped from a Q3 to a Q4 win, which basically means nothing.

QUAD 1 (4-5)
H #2 Purdue - W
A #2 Purdue - L
H #17 Illinois - W
A #17 Illinois - L
H #20 Dayton - W
A #22 Wisconsin - L
H #24 Michigan State - W
N #28 Mississippi State - L
A #41 Nebraska - L

QUAD 2 (5-2)
H #41 Nebraska - W
H #66 Ohio State - W
H #67 Maryland - W
A #78 Minnesota - L
A #96 Penn State - W
A #98 Rutgers - L
A #108 Indiana - W

QUAD 3 (3-0)
H #96 Penn State - W
H #120 Michigan - W
N #126 Arizona State - W

QUAD 4 (7-1)
N #201 Rhode Island - W
H #280 Binghamton - W
H #285 Jackson State - W
H #290 Western Michigan - W
H #295 Chicago State - L
H #311 Northern Illinois - W
A #320 DePaul - W
H #359 Detroit Mercy - W

This week features a Quad 1 road game at Maryland and a Quad 2 home game against Iowa.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.