2024 U23 Nationals & U20 World Team Trials (5/31-6/2) thread

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The 2024 U23 Nationals and the U20 WTT are the next big event on the schedule. Please use this thread to discuss this competition in advance of it, and during the competition.
 

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Gabe Arnold in at 79 kg. Could see a Ryder/Arnold best of 3? Arnold wrestling at 174# so I doubt talk of him at 184 will happen.
Keuter in at hwt. Kerk v Keuter?
 

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Gabe Arnold in at 79 kg. Could see a Ryder/Arnold best of 3? Arnold wrestling at 174# so I doubt talk of him at 184 will happen.
Keuter in at hwt. Kerk v Keuter?
Keuter U20. Kerk U23. Kerk techs the field.
 
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Anybody going? I was thinking of stopping over on Saturday
 

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Interesting Lillidahl and Sealey list NLWC while Ryder shows M2. Not a big deal.............

Perhaps it has something to do with where they are in school. I believe that Lillidahl and Sealey graduated from Wyoming Sem in recent days. Ryder, by contrast, is just finishing his junior year of HS.

I don't know the USA Wrestling rules, or the NCAA rules, on when a wrestler can or can not be listed as being a part of a RTC.
 

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Interesting Lillidahl and Sealey list NLWC while Ryder shows M2. Not a big deal.............
I think it’s just a formality. Pretty sure Kasak wrestled under M2 during his HS Sr yr while living in State College also. I can’t remember what Nick Lee listed?
 
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Perhaps it has something to do with where they are in school. I believe that Lillidahl and Sealey graduated from Wyoming Sem in recent days. Ryder, by contrast, is just finishing his junior year of HS.

I don't know the USA Wrestling rules, or the NCAA rules, on when a wrestler can or can not be listed as being a part of a RTC.
Pretty sure this ☝🏻
 
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I think it’s just a formality. Pretty sure Kasak wrestled under M2 during his HS Sr yr while living in State College also. I can’t remember what Nick Lee listed?
Kasak didn't wrestle in HS his Sr year.
 

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Hey Tom,
Trying to time this right. What day and times are the U23 and U20 mens FS suppose to start ?
 

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Perhaps it has something to do with where they are in school. I believe that Lillidahl and Sealey graduated from Wyoming Sem in recent days. Ryder, by contrast, is just finishing his junior year of HS.

I don't know the USA Wrestling rules, or the NCAA rules, on when a wrestler can or can not be listed as being a part of a RTC.
Yeah, my read on this is its due to where he stands in terms of high school vs. college.
 

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Hey Tom,
Trying to time this right. What day and times are the U23 and U20 mens FS suppose to start ?
All times Eastern:

Saturday, June 1st

Session 1:

U20 Freestyle World Team Trials – Challenge Tournament - Preliminaries, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Challenge Finals & Consolations

9:30 a.m. – 2:30 p.m.



U23 Freestyle – Preliminaries and Consolations

9:30 a.m. – 2:30 p.m.



Session 2:

U20 Freestyle World Team Trials – All Medal Matches, and Best 2 out of 3 Finals

4:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.



U23 Freestyle – Preliminaries and Consolations

4:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.



Sunday, June 2nd

Session 3:

U23 Freestyle – Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Consolations, All Medal Matches, and Best 2 out of 3 Finals

10:00 a.m. – 3:30 p.m.
 
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All times Eastern:

Saturday, June 1st

Session 1:

U20 Freestyle World Team Trials – Challenge Tournament - Preliminaries, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Challenge Finals & Consolations

9:30 a.m. – 2:30 p.m.



U23 Freestyle – Preliminaries and Consolations

9:30 a.m. – 2:30 p.m.



Session 2:

U20 Freestyle World Team Trials – All Medal Matches, and Best 2 out of 3 Finals

4:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.



U23 Freestyle – Preliminaries and Consolations

4:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.



Sunday, June 2nd

Session 3:

U23 Freestyle – Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Consolations, All Medal Matches, and Best 2 out of 3 Finals

10:00 a.m. – 3:30 p.m.
Excellent. Thank you Greg.
 

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Excellent. Thank you Greg.
Do note that, and the schedule makes it obvious, but these are incredibly long days and the entry list is massive. So when looking for updates Saturday and Sunday, large gaps with nothing are not out of the question.
 
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Nomad has posted a bunch of guesses on how the U20 seeding will go. I'll post them in this thread
 

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This is predicted seeds not predicted outcome
I’m aware. Just seems a bit of a slight to have a U17 World Silver Medalist and True Freshman NCAA 3 rd place finisher seeded fifth, but my guess is Tyler would use that as motivation.
 

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Seems like they are underestimating Kasak here.

Nomad is using PIN ratings (Performance Index) for his seeding predictions, since USA Wrestling announced they would use them for national and regional events starting with 2023-24.

Nomad had this comment about PIN ratings, which may address why Kasak isn't higher in his seeding prediction:

 

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I’m aware. Just seems a bit of a slight to have a U17 World Silver Medalist and True Freshman NCAA 3 rd place finisher seeded fifth, but my guess is Tyler would use that as motivation.
 

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Am I correct that there are 10 free style weight classes in the U20 and U23-as there are 10 weight classes in world championships unlike the free style which has 6 weight classes? Thank you
 

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