They win. Admittedly, with more than a little assistance.
2026 NCAA Championship Session IV Thread
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They win when they are supposed to. We beat them head up 2 of 3 and the third was highway robbery
The whole sequence is reviewed when it was given doesn't matter. The booth scores the sequence
With a decision win tomorrow, Haines would finish his career tied at #26 on the all-time NCAA tourney scoring list with CStar and Steveson (not counting 5th year results).
You may ask, how would Levi be tied with 4x champ CStar with going 2-1-3-1. The answer is bonus. Levi has almost as much bonus just in this tournament (6.5) as CStar had in his first 4 tournaments combined (7).
Haines with a TF would move him up the list to #23. A half point ahead of Lee Kemp and Tom Brands.
You may ask, how would Levi be tied with 4x champ CStar with going 2-1-3-1. The answer is bonus. Levi has almost as much bonus just in this tournament (6.5) as CStar had in his first 4 tournaments combined (7).
Haines with a TF would move him up the list to #23. A half point ahead of Lee Kemp and Tom Brands.
Ahh. Have an uncle I never see much who's big into wrestling that has been in Idaho forever and thought maybe. Hahah
That's pricey real estate! Beautiful. Loved my time in montana/Wyoming.
Once Taylor left, he became the opponent. All the slobbering over him makes him the enemy-well that and his morphing into a triad of Ryan, Eggum and Manning.
Nailed it. I really want to see Taylor do his usual cheerleader splits for six and a half minutes and then get a TD to seal it. I surely don't want to hear how Okie State has guaranteed four-timers until next season.
The 157 refs cut back on their reffing while on the mat. So it's still an opportunity for you.
You know where my buddy has a place then - Driggs. Bought just before the real estate prices skyrocketed
Team Race After Session IV
At this point, PSU and Oklahoma St. are the only teams still in the running for the team title.
PSU's max potential is 206
OSU's max potential is 159.5
Max potential assumes that every one of your wrestlers still alive win all their remaining matches, and pin their opponent -- something that is not happening (especially for teams with multiple wrestlers still alive).
| Place | Team | Score | Finalists | Alive in Consolations |
| 1 | PSU | 153 | 6 | 2 |
| 2 | Oklahoma St. | 111.5 | 4 | 2 |
| 3 | Nebraska | 83.5 | 1 | 4 |
| 4 | Iowa | 82 | 1 | 5 |
| 5 | Ohio St. | 77.5 | 2 | 2 |
| 6 | Stanford | 59 | 1 | 3 |
| 7 | Iowa St. | 51 | 1 | 1 |
| 8 | Michigan | 48 | 0 | 3 |
| 9 | Minnesota | 39.5 | 1 | 1 |
| 10 | NC St. | 39 | 1 | 1 |
| 11 | Virginia Tech | 35 | 0 | 2 |
| 12 | Wyoming | 31.5 | 0 | 1 |
| 13 | Arizona St. | 30 | 0 | 1 |
| 14 | Missouri | 26.5 | 0 | 1 |
| 15 | Illinois | 25 | 0 | 1 |
At this point, PSU and Oklahoma St. are the only teams still in the running for the team title.
PSU's max potential is 206
OSU's max potential is 159.5
Max potential assumes that every one of your wrestlers still alive win all their remaining matches, and pin their opponent -- something that is not happening (especially for teams with multiple wrestlers still alive).
still...the ref could had held his whistle and see what happens,,, knowing PSU could challenge if necessary. sort of what the nfl does now... not blow the whistle unless positive because the play can be reviewed. now that reaction time is a big thing, the rule book, as Tom states, needs to change
153 points. On pace to break the record for the third straight year. Most dominant team in Cael’s era. 6 freaking finalists.
And I’m still sitting here fuming about Duke’s match.
And I’m still sitting here fuming about Duke’s match.
Only spratley will go before blaze and duke. Even if he only wins by decision, we’ll need two wins or blaze to win by bonus
Dude, stop using pswc. They haven’t been right all tournament.
Penn State 153
Oklahoma State 111.5
Nebraska 90.5
Iowa 81
Ohio State 77.5
Stanford 58
Iowa State 52
Michigan 48
Minnesota 39.5
NC State 37
4 freshman in the final vs our 0. Regardless of their style it is a statement.
I didn't know that and did not see your post. Thank you for the correction.
Seems to me the rules committee is making the refs job harder. With reaction rule, riding time stopped on legs and taking away finishing moves that involve a potential pin. The committee should use the" KISS" coaching term. "Keep It Stupid Simple". Years ago when a coach would use the term it was " Keep It Simple,Stupid". Probably frowned upon now. I was directed once by a person not to call conditioning drill ,"Suicides"
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That's what the Brands teach. It still works just not as well as it used to.
There was a time when RBY had trouble with DeSanto, but that changed the following season. Let's hope that’s the same with Blaze and Davino.
He is definitely not the same as last year, Ayala did not improve that much if at all.
Unfortunately Duke forgot the valuable lesson he learned when he lost to Taylor in the Nebraska dual, do not let the opponent dictate the pace. Duke was more than willing to play Robideu's grab the fingers game and thus could not get any offense initiated. Certainly it did not help that the refs allowed Robideau to play that game and not hit him with stalling calls. What happened in OT is criminal. Again, if Duke dictates the pace, he wins. He did not and that allowed the ref to be a factor to decide the match. Painful lesson to re-learn.
I suppose he could have done whatever he wanted, but he'd be going against what is and has been protocol for sudden victory. Tom McAndrew has explained perfectly that unless the defensive wrestler is in near-fall criteria, the match is to be stopped immediately when the offensive wrestler gains control and has a takedown, which PJ absolutely DID. The mat ref didn't fail here in any way, shape or form, the review booth blew it. PJ won, that's all there is to it. Doesn't matter about the interlaced fingers or stalling all match, doesn't matter that some PSU fans claim PJ didn't look his best, PJ WON, full stop, end of story. And PJ would have won tonight too. Bastards robbed PJ of a national title and they robbed Penn State of a larger advantage in the team race. I presume that there are closed door meetings after the NCAAs where the refs look at controversial calls, critique themselves, etc. etc., but that just doesn't seem like enough here. The NCAA and these refs owe PJ Duke a public apology.
Perspective is one had a good match that if Davino would have lost would have been because of a BS missed call and Duke lost because of a missed BS call. It truly, luckily worked out for Davino, Duke got screwed. Hopefully it makes him even more hungry as I think it will never be close again just l8ke he majored Taylor.
I thoroughly enjoyed watch AJ's ego get slammed twice by Batista after he tried ***** slapping. #Noprayerafterwardthough
Was is so much PJ forgetting or something else? From Big 10’s up to this last match PJ tore his opponent apart. He did not wrestle the same in this last match which begs the question of whether he had a bad strategy or was bothered by something else. While the okie st kid is good and effective, a healthy Duke beats him in regulation 9 out of 10. We can argue that Duke was robbed in SV - which he was, but it no longer matters.
How Duke performs today may give us some clues, but only he and the staff know for sure.
DT and Okie St are threats to our future dominance.
Just for reference official 17 got his *** handed to him after the match by Cody after the Duke screwing, walked to the officials seating area for several minutes, head of officials walked over to him and said something. He put his jacket on and left the Arena. Didn't see him the rest of the night. It seemed very weird.
Half of people here claim the ref blew the whistle prematurely while the other half claim PJ should've finished his move. Which is it? And while we're at it please define what's a takedown. :>) I thought it constitutes control.
That said, the headline is five freshmen in the finals, four of whom are from OK State. Forget Iowa. Forget the Ferraris. That is the headline. As Willem Defoe said in 'Platoon', "The worm has turned for you, man." PJ will bounce back. So will Blaze who, BTW, needs to get stronger.
You can dislike my opinion as much as you want, Blaze went on to lose the next two against Davino. I had my reservations from the start that Blaze's defense-centric counterattacking style would be as dominant in NCAA folkstyle as it was as a prep, and as he was as a teenage phenom in freestyle.
Blaze happens to be IMO in a weight class that has 4 guys in 2yrs (Forrest, Davino, Seidel, and him) who would be multiple-time NCAA champs any other time. He's also the least dynamic of the four. He took apart the guys he should have this year, but can he get over the hump? I hope Blaze ends up the best of the bunch, but I can't say I'd be totally shocked if he ends up a 4x high-AA without an individual title. Maybe growth spreads them out and my opinion is moot anyway?
Cael is the best and he picked his guy, I'm just another shmuck on the internet with an opinion.
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Yep. And i dont feel bad about saying it.
Good morning. I slept on it. Still don't like. Lol Time will tell but his issue isn't the ability to get on offense, or lack of talent or strength or size or anything. It's game plan and style. He and duke both learned a brutal lesson at the worst time. Never let your opponent take it to SV. I'll stay bullish on blaze. Especially cause he may be the only one from the group of freshman that can even hold 133 long term.