2026 NCAA Championship Session VI Thread

tullfan68

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Every excuse I’ve heard for Duke just has me howling in laughter.
“He needed to hook the leg”
Buddy, he stopped because they blew a whistle, didn’t have a chance.
“He was out front on the cradle”
Buddy, he had him on a hip for 2 seconds and was closer to taking him to his back for 1 more second than anything.
“Officials didn’t see a takedown”
Buddy, for once in our lifetimes, the mat official actually got it right.

Sport is closest to gymnastics and cheer as it is to anything. Perform a rep, pass judgement of it on to a bunch of subjective experts that can’t get on the same page to see how much it’s worth.

Just go to freestyle takedown rules and move on.
LOL if it wasn't a TD why did he call it?match should have continued so he could have pinned or gotten back points!very poor reffing
 

tullfan68

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hey donboy the only one that needs an excuse here is the ref!and all the clowns that changed the TD!
 

Corby2

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LOL if it wasn't a TD why did he call it?match should have continued so he could have pinned or gotten back points!very poor reffing
He wasn't in near fall criteria so no ref would've allowed the action to continue.
And those saying the ref should've waited longer to make the call are advocating for something that's already an issue with reaction time calls . Refs should be awarding the points when they happen not holding calls even longer. The ref on the mat did what he was supposed to do he was also in great position. The booth butchered the call and screwed PJ. We can talk about it all day but PJ has moved on its now freestyle season
 

Random4598375

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Of course someone attempting to make a point by ignoring the point.
Cael year 2: team national champion knocking 3 time defending champ all the way down to 3rd place 21 points behind.
DT year 2: team runner-up, 50 points behind the 4 time defending champion.
That's ignoring the point, too. The biggest difference between 2010 PSU and 2026 Ok St is that 2010 PSU didn't have to compete with a team as stacked as 2026 PSU. DT's program is at or ahead of where Cael's PSU programs was in 2010 despite having an all-time great behemoth standing in the way. What he's done so far has been really impressive. They are only going to get better.
 
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Nitlion1986

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That's ignoring the point, too. The biggest difference between 2010 PSU and 2026 Ok St is that 2010 PSU didn't have to compete with a team as stacked as 2026 PSU. DT's program is at or ahead of where Cael's PSU programs was in 2010 despite having an all-time great behemoth standing in the way. What he's done so far has been really impressive. They are only going to get better.
You and I are going to disagree here.

I took the post to read along the lines that DT in year two is ahead of Cael's pace. No he isn't.

In 2011 Iowa was the big, bad bully who had won the previous 3 titles, and the most recent one by 44.5 points. Iowa had stomped PSU in the dual meet that year and lost the Big10 tournament by a single point to Penn St. The big bad bully was still the King of the Mountain. At nationals Penn State outwrestled the King of the Mountain, Iowa (and Cornell) and ripped that team title right out of their hands. Cael didn't say we are coming, instead Penn State proclaimed themselves the King!

Big difference between Cael's accomplishment in year two compared to David's.
 

jstross

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That's ignoring the point, too. The biggest difference between 2010 PSU and 2026 Ok St is that 2010 PSU didn't have to compete with a team as stacked as 2026 PSU. DT's program is at or ahead of where Cael's PSU programs was in 2010 despite having an all-time great behemoth standing in the way. What he's done so far has been really impressive. They are only going to get better.
Cowboys are in a strong position to remain in second for several more years. Nothing indicates they'll suddenly take the crown. They have a lot of overlap in their recruiting. And I get it, get all you can and the best you can before the 30 scholarship limit. I sure hope it gets more competitive.
 

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My son is in his third year of college and hasn’t turned 21 yet.
I didn’t turn 21 until my senior year at PSU but that was not because I was smart. Nor was I an athlete. My mom just sent me to kindergarten in PA early for an unknown reason.
 
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Random4598375

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You and I are going to disagree here.

I took the post to read along the lines that DT in year two is ahead of Cael's pace. No he isn't.

In 2011 Iowa was the big, bad bully who had won the previous 3 titles, and the most recent one by 44.5 points. Iowa had stomped PSU in the dual meet that year and lost the Big10 tournament by a single point to Penn St. The big bad bully was still the King of the Mountain. At nationals Penn State outwrestled the King of the Mountain, Iowa (and Cornell) and ripped that team title right out of their hands. Cael didn't say we are coming, instead Penn State proclaimed themselves the King!

Big difference between Cael's accomplishment in year two compared to David's.
That Iowa team was the top of the heap at the time but wasn't even a shadow of the 2026 PSU team, which is one of the best (possibly THE best) NCAA wrestling teams ever assembled. There was no way in hell Ok St was going to pass them or even just fully catch up this year, despite being at least at or possibly past the point of development of the 2011 PSU team, but they did close the gap significantly and overperform at nationals for the second year (just like we all loved from those PSU teams of the time). I'm not saying that Ok St is going to pass PSU because PSU isn't declining any time soon. I'm just saying that the trajectory that DT has Ok St on will put them on the level sooner than you think.

I'm looking forward to nationals coming down to the last match instead of being just a coronation.
 
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Cyclingmike

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You and I are going to disagree here.

I took the post to read along the lines that DT in year two is ahead of Cael's pace. No he isn't.

In 2011 Iowa was the big, bad bully who had won the previous 3 titles, and the most recent one by 44.5 points. Iowa had stomped PSU in the dual meet that year and lost the Big10 tournament by a single point to Penn St. The big bad bully was still the King of the Mountain. At nationals Penn State outwrestled the King of the Mountain, Iowa (and Cornell) and ripped that team title right out of their hands. Cael didn't say we are coming, instead Penn State proclaimed themselves the King!

Big difference between Cael's accomplishment in year two compared to David's.
No transfer portal back in 2010 either. Easier these days to fill in the holes.
 

NoVaLion

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He wasn't in near fall criteria so no ref would've allowed the action to continue.
And those saying the ref should've waited longer to make the call are advocating for something that's already an issue with reaction time calls . Refs should be awarding the points when they happen not holding calls even longer. The ref on the mat did what he was supposed to do he was also in great position. The booth butchered the call and screwed PJ. We can talk about it all day but PJ has moved on its now freestyle season
BS, The ref should not have stopped the action while Duke still had a cradle locked up. Here is the language from the rule book. I would say one wrestler having a cradle locked up is significant action. The mat ref should NOT have stopped the action while Duke had a cradle locked up.

"
When a coach challenge is
requested, the referee will stop the match as quickly as possible, but only
when no significant action is taking place."
 

Corby2

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BS, The ref should not have stopped the action while Duke still had a cradle locked up. Here is the language from the rule book. I would say one wrestler having a cradle locked up is significant action. The mat ref should NOT have stopped the action while Duke had a cradle locked up.

"
When a coach challenge is
requested, the referee will stop the match as quickly as possible, but only
when no significant action is taking place."
You only let a match go in OT when they're in near fall criteria. Having a cradle looked up once the hip hits you award the points and stop the action.
They didn't stop it for a challenge. What you posted doesn't apply to this situation it was stopped because the ref called a takedown
 

NittanyLion84

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When somebody is constantly giving ground.... wrestling with back to boundary and hanging on head.... you can't just "shoot" for the sake of shooting. That's how you give up stupid points and play into what the other guy wants you to do. Anybody who's wrestled understands exactly what Burroughs pointed out multiple times - LL was clearly the aggressor 100% of the time... he initiated all of the exchanges... and deserved to be rewarded for that. If you can't see that McGowan was wrestling in a completely passive, defensive and "stalling" style, you don't know wrestling.
It’s been years since I’ve seen a Bushwood post that was concise and, at the same time, I was able to agree with.😏
 

watoos

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You only let a match go in OT when they're in near fall criteria. Having a cradle looked up once the hip hits you award the points and stop the action.
They didn't stop it for a challenge. What you posted doesn't apply to this situation it was stopped because the ref called a takedown
What is the near fall criteria when someone is caught in a cradle? I thought that Duke was getting darned close for swipes, as a matter of fact I will bet my golf clubs that had the match been allowed to continue Duke would have gotten back points within a matter of seconds. What if the team race was extremely close and the referee stopped Duke from adding to his team points? What if Duke's TD resulted in a tech fall, nearly every darned match that I have seen the referee doesn't stop the match for the tech fall he lets it go on when a near fall is possible, to give the wrestler the opportunity for one more point, a pin.

I say Duke met near fall criteria is my argument, just because the referee never looked for back points doesn't mean near fall criteria wasn't met.

So was this just a rumor floating around the arena that the final review of the TD was 4-3?
 
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lionlover

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I am as big of a Penn State fan as anyone on this board, but if you don't see Ok. State as a legitimate contender in the years to come, you are kidding yourself. I believe they just put 4 freshman in the finals. They are going to keep getting better, as well. I agree that they had a dream tournament and still lost by 50, but they are pretty good and I think they are going to be very competitive with us for years to come.
Hey guys, David Taylor is now posting on this board! 😁