Usually reliable Turner? He’s a terrible defensive shortstop. Unless you mean he’s reliable at committing errors
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Turner ranks 245 in career errors at shortstop which is better than Jimmy Rollins. He is first in errors so far this season. Terrible? This year I would agree but historically not so much
His numbers look good, but he usually makes it interesting by letting a few guys on before he shuts them down. You can only play with fire like that so many times before it burns you. Tonight it caught up to him.
Wait, what? In about 800 less games and 5 less years, Rollins only has about 18 more errors. Turner is going to blow by that next year. Besides that simplistic stat - which doesn’t take into account how many balls you get to (I.e. range), he’s got negative WAR and Outs Above Average - further showing his deficiencies in range and converted plays like assists and putouts.
But let’s go with total errors. I guess Cal Ripken and Mark Belanger were ****** shortstops since they’re way up the total error board? Mark Belanger - only one of the 5 best defensive players to walk this earth.
And then there’s the GOAT, Ozzie Smith, all the way up at about the 81st spot in errors with 281!
What are we doing here? He isn’t consistent catching the ball, has mediocre range, and his arm isn’t that great. He’s a below average shortstop and is getting worse.
The Phillies defense this year is one of the leagues worst and having Turner up the middle right now is killing them
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Oh….i certainly am not defending the Phillies defensive play this year. The problem with Tre is that you have a 33 year old player at a key position that requires speed/ range and a powerful arm etc. He has a no trade contract worth a total of approx $300 million thru 2033. Being that athletes at 33+ do not increase range , speed or arm strength with age ….what do you do with him? The Phil’s have a heck of a problem etc.BTW….his contract is 100% guaranteed….with no trade clause and a non deferred compensation clause to boot.
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Oh, I know. We’re ******. We had to win in our window as the expensive core is all aging together. The big loss was the DBacks collapse. That was the year to win it