But there has to be some kind of barometer to get into the HOF…otherwise no one would get in because there are people that hate every band or artist.
2026 Rock and Roll HOF nominees.....
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It’s not totally subjective. There is definitive criteria that one could use to judge the quality of music.
Whether you actually enjoy the music or not is completely subjective.
Phil Collins pretty much defined 80s rock. Like him or not, he belongs in The Hall. He was the biggest star in the music world during the Live Aid era.
Billy Idol is deserving too. His first two LPs were absolutely legendary. And he’s stayed relevant and toured for a long time too. Then there’s his early work with Generation X.
LOL. Blows my mind people think The Beatles are bad/overrated. Few bands have 100 songs worth ranking and Rolling Stone did a list for them. My favorites are I Want to Hold Your Hand, Come Together, Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and Hello, Goodbye. They were a movement - much like Nirvana after them in the 90’s.
You apparently have been struck by lightning.
Oh absolutely there is criteria they use. I don't. It's their RRHOF not mine.
Thats why I don't get upset over it.
Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.Nah:
Hell I still like Help.
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
Holy ****, didn’t we have a poster 20-25 years ago with the handle mixolydian?
"Who's that little old man?"Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.
Hell I still like Help.
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
I've read different accounts. Many said Paul just liked him and told the lads he was his grandad so they wouldn't give him a hard time. I've never read the script though.
Help was too Monkees for me.Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.
Hell I still like Help.
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
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First, maybe "characteristics" is a better word than "criteria".
Off the top of my head, but not limited to....
Melodically - does the singer have range, are the melodies creative/intricate (opposed to a lot of repeated notes or basic like a nursery rhyme) but still have a good "hook"? Use of vocal harmonies. Instruments - do they play more than your typical pentatonic scale? Harmonic minor or other altered scales? Can they follow the chord changes and highlight chord tones? Multiple intermingled melodic lines (thinking more classical/chorale).
Harmonically - Does the song use more than just 1, 4, 5 chords? Color notes in chords? 7th/9th chords? Does the song use key modulations or other non-standard chord changes? Voice leading in chord changes? Use of leading chords like diminished and altered chords?
Rhythm - if it's drum based, is the tempo tight and consistent? Complex beats/fills, odd/mixed time signatures? Polyrhythms?
Arrangement - Multiple different sections in a song? Building and telling a story (ex. Stairway to Heaven). Adding in different instrumentation at key points.
Musicians - Just having better musicians makes a song better. You're a guitar player. You know when one guy is better than another from a technical standpoint.
Lyrics are much more subjective, but I feel like most people can tell that Dylan lyrics are better than the Back Street Boys.
Does it mean that a song that lacks many of these can't be an enjoyable song to listen to? Hell no.