2027 Recruiting Thread

LB99

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For the most part, culture defines the great team teams in college football. It’s been that way for decades. Regarding Cignetti, he learned a lot from another culture guy, Saban.
Great points. Saban was aided by a boatload of talent also. More than any other team during his historic run. He routinely had the #1 recruiting class in the country.
 
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PSU89er

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Amazing he is the only one with this philosophy.
Two years. He was the only one who understood this philosophy.

You are correct in that others are going to catch up, but in doing that. The OSU, BAMA and UGa's will not be able to stockpile talent anymore and near the top a lot more teams are going to be competative. Even if OSU starts hitting the portal hard. Its going to harder for them. Because of recruiting, they will have high level HS recruits that they had to pay big money to. If you pull the rug out from under them, are going to bolt to another school.

I read something 5 or 6 year years ago from a Big 12 kid that transferred to OSU. When asked about the difference he said. Our first units were not all that far apart, but the third and fourth units at OSU were just as good as our first unit at the old school (I think it was Oklahoma State, but Im not sure). That is why OSU has been so good. Now, it you think OSU is going to figure out someway to keep the recruits on board for 4 years while bringing a handful of portal recruits. I think you are wrong. They are already losing their depth. OSU is still going to be really good, but the days of the same two or three dominate teams every year. The portal has taken care of that.

Everybody hates the portal, but is creating better parity in college football than has been seen in a long time.
 
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Two years. He was the only one who understood this philosophy.

You are correct in that others are going to catch up, but in doing that. The OSU, BAMA and UGa's will not be able to stockpile talent anymore and near the top a lot more teams are going to be competative. Even if OSU starts hitting the portal hard. Its going to harder for them. Because of recruiting, they will have high level HS recruits that they had to pay big money to. If you pull the rug out from under them, are going to bolt to another school.

I read something 5 or 6 year years ago from a Big 12 kid that transferred to OSU. When asked about the difference he said. Our first units were not all that far apart, but the third and fourth units at OSU were just as good as our first unit at the old school (I think it was Oklahoma State, but Im not sure). That is why OSU has been so good. Now, it you think OSU is going to figure out someway to keep the recruits on board for 4 years while bringing a handful of portal recruits. I think you are wrong. They are already losing their depth. OSU is still going to be really good, but the days of the same two or three dominate teams every year. The portal has taken care of that.

Everybody hates the portal, but is creating better parity in college football than has been seen in a long time.
How long do you think the current NIL structure can financially continue? Eventually some of these "contributors" will run dry on funds.
 
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PSU89er

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How long do you think the current NIL structure can financially continue? Eventually some of these "contributors" will run dry on funds.
Its a great question and I have no idea. How long until they end up like the federal government and are spending money they dont have? All I believe is that eventually almost every team will not show restraint and will end up spending pretty much everything they are making.

I still think the solution is they need to stop having these kids go to school and just call them employees.
 

DaytonRickster

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Its a great question and I have no idea. How long until they end up like the federal government and are spending money they dont have? All I believe is that eventually almost every team will not show restraint and will end up spending pretty much everything they are making.

I still think the solution is they need to stop having these kids go to school and just call them employees.
Your last paragraph may be the next iteration of NIL.
 

PSUForever

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2024 Indiana had a 2026 PSU schedule. The only "big win" was Michigan and Michigan lost 5 games in 2024.
2025 Indiana was a great team and a great story line. Once apparently revolutionizes the "college" football world?
If so, who will be the best at emulating their "model?" A program that recruits at a high level and then enhances their roster with difference makers made available in the portal......or a program that recruits around #15 and hopes to outspend the big money programs for the dynamic players in the portal?
What did Texas Tech and Ole Miss do in HS recruiting rankings the last couple of years? Were they all 4 and 5 stars? Not to mention Indiana absolutely obliterated Alabama who I know had many more 4 star and 5 stars than IU. Then Indiana did it again to Oregon. Didn't squeak by them they CRUSHED them. No contest.

All this star gazing are BGJ fan boys trying desperately to create their bitter narrative that Campbell will fail and we will lose 4-5 games every season because he can't get talent.

The CFB world has changed. Yes, you need some HS talent but the blueprint is to get experience through the portal. Fernando Mendoza was a 2 star. If Penn State had recruited Fernando Mendoza the whining and bit##ing by some people on this board would wake up the lions slumbering on Mount Nittany!
 

PSUForever

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The Indiana "model" only works if other programs can replicate its coaching staff. Not happening.

If that concept is too difficult to grasp, ask yourself what is the likelihood that Indiana repeats last season's results on a regular basis.
Very likely. Get used to it. Indiana is a power in the B10. If PSU played IU in Bloomington this season who would you bet wins?
 

PSUForever

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I think it's highly unlikely that lightning strikes twice at Indiana. Cignetti may be a magician and bring long term improvement to what I believe is a historically bad program. However, in terms of the "apex" of his career, he probably should have retired and gone into doing color commentary on gameday and keeping "the mystic" alive. The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow.
I think that the LSU, Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, USC, ND, Oklahoma, Georgia types will continue to rule "college" football because they will spend in both high school recruiting and the portal.
As in the past, every decade or so an Auburn will emerge (they have deep pockets) and run the table.
Superior talent, complimented by excellent coaching is still the formula. Lot's of schools like the one's I mentioned above, fit that description. 8 or 9 times in 10 they will be in the mix. Generally speaking (as the old coach would say) you don't make chicken salad with chicken s$$$.
Apple will never make it as a computer company or as a company in general. My bet is on the established big boy called IBM.

Signed the clueless from 1982.
 

rigi19041

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Maybe they will. 10 win regular season.
What did Texas Tech and Ole Miss do in HS recruiting rankings the last couple of years? Were they all 4 and 5 stars? Not to mention Indiana absolutely obliterated Alabama who I know had many more 4 star and 5 stars than IU. Then Indiana did it again to Oregon. Didn't squeak by them they CRUSHED them. No contest.

All this star gazing are BGJ fan boys trying desperately to create their bitter narrative that Campbell will fail and we will lose 4-5 games every season because he can't get talent.

The CFB world has changed. Yes, you need some HS talent but the blueprint is to get experience through the portal. Fernando Mendoza was a 2 star. If Penn State had recruited Fernando Mendoza the whining and bit##ing by some people on this board would wake up the lions slumbering on Mount Nittany!

Says the CMC fanboy.

If psu with their higher rates recruits played Indiana this year who would you pick?

CMC is not cignetti.
 

psu83

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Says the CMC fanboy.

If psu with their higher rates recruits played Indiana this year who would you pick?

CMC is not cignetti.
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