247 rankings haven't updated in weeks.As of yesterday, 247 has Iowa ranked #4. Yes there are some 5* not commited, depending where they go could push uz down. 247 has Hartwell at #16 where ESecPN pushed her down. #16 and #42 on 247.
247 rankings haven't updated in weeks.As of yesterday, 247 has Iowa ranked #4. Yes there are some 5* not commited, depending where they go could push uz down. 247 has Hartwell at #16 where ESecPN pushed her down. #16 and #42 on 247.
As of yesterday, 247 has Iowa ranked #4. Yes there are some 5* not commited, depending where they go could push uz down. 247 has Hartwell at #16 where ESecPN pushed her down. #16 and #42 on 247.
It's one thing to aim high.
It's another to use time and resources chasing a legacy recruit.
The "hit" probability had to be extraordinarily low.
Yep, I see that. However, that's only one list and I wouldn't put much stock in it because they have some inconsistencies with the Top X list, Team Rankings and Current Individual Rankings.
Hartwell #21 (5-star - From what I understand in other posts her ranking went down after USA National Team tryouts, iirc)
Seubert #45 (5-star - I could be wrong but don't think Jada was ever considered a 5-star)
They have Iowa #4 with two 4-stars. So are they rating our 2 players at 4-stars or 5-stars? It looks like 4-stars but that #4 overall ranking indicates 5-stars.
However, they have our Overall Rank at #3 and not #4 here.
There are 22 non-commits ahead of Jada.
Brookeslee Colvin is one of them who committed on 9/22/26. She is not listed yet for IN.
Harper Dunn is another one who committed on 10/2/26. She is not listed yet for OK.
Sydney Mobley is another one who committed on 7/3/26. She is not listed yet for OSU.
Sydney Savoury is another one who committed on 11/6/26. She is not listed yet for UConn.
I'm not going through all 22 to see if they have already committed to a team yet. I just recall the names of players we recruited and they committed elsewhere.
Currently 247S only has 58 players listed, not 100 or more like others have it.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '25-'26 and it ranked as a #16 class.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '26-'27 and it ranked as a #13 class.
So that current #4 is wishful thinking for the multiple factors already stated.
Believe a composite ranking across multiple sites for a player is better than one service. That #16 & #13 mimic ranking is the best IA could be if applied in those prior years. Of course, everyone would choose the service that gave their team the highest rankings. To get around that, a composite ranking is used instead to level the playing field for all.
Here's the rankings I have listed so far for our 2 signed commits. They are not all updated.
Khalia Hartwell - 4 Star (#21 PGH) (#24 247S) (#38 ON3RI) (#39 PN) (#39 JRAS) (#95 ESPN)
Jada Seubert - 4 Star (#38 BTN) (#45 247S) (#65 PGH) (#72 ESPN) (#87 JRAS)
So when the composite score is used, IA will fall because each players Avg Rank score is weighted. Meaning the worse a player ranking the more points they are dropped. A player @ #8 gets more score points than someone at #27 which gets more points than someone at #72 etc etc. That's why I wrote we'll probably be ~30-35 ranked when the composite score drops both our players.
Actually, Hartwell is better ranked at other sources than I thought in my prior post. Oh hell, I just took a little more time and ran the composite #'s for both our players above and we would of ranked #27 for both the '25-'26 and '26-'27 classes. So we'll probably rank closer to 25-30 this year than the 30-35 range I had in my prior post when I update their most recent rankings and the '27 class fills in with signed commits.
At least you were able to verify where the data came from. However, whoever wrote their software, it's junk. Whoever updates the app is slow and not up to date. If I had time to poke around more, might find more problems with it. Would not rely on that 247S list right now.
The other important part is we're done for 2027 while others can still add to their class yet. Guess someone could uncommit and open it back up but I wouldn't count on that now.
Holy crap, what are you going for? NYT best seller.Yep, I see that. However, that's only one list and I wouldn't put much stock in it because they have some inconsistencies with the Top X list, Team Rankings and Current Individual Rankings.
Hartwell #21 (5-star - From what I understand in other posts her ranking went down after USA National Team tryouts, iirc)
Seubert #45 (5-star - I could be wrong but don't think Jada was ever considered a 5-star)
They have Iowa #4 with two 4-stars. So are they rating our 2 players at 4-stars or 5-stars? It looks like 4-stars but that #4 overall ranking indicates 5-stars.
However, they have our Overall Rank at #3 and not #4 here.
There are 22 non-commits ahead of Jada.
Brookeslee Colvin is one of them who committed on 9/22/26. She is not listed yet for IN.
Harper Dunn is another one who committed on 10/2/26. She is not listed yet for OK.
Sydney Mobley is another one who committed on 7/3/26. She is not listed yet for OSU.
Sydney Savoury is another one who committed on 11/6/26. She is not listed yet for UConn.
I'm not going through all 22 to see if they have already committed to a team yet. I just recall the names of players we recruited and they committed elsewhere.
Currently 247S only has 58 players listed, not 100 or more like others have it.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '25-'26 and it ranked as a #16 class.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '26-'27 and it ranked as a #13 class.
So that current #4 is wishful thinking for the multiple factors already stated.
Believe a composite ranking across multiple sites for a player is better than one service. That #16 & #13 mimic ranking is the best IA could be if applied in those prior years. Of course, everyone would choose the service that gave their team the highest rankings. To get around that, a composite ranking is used instead to level the playing field for all.
Here's the rankings I have listed so far for our 2 signed commits. They are not all updated.
Khalia Hartwell - 4 Star (#21 PGH) (#24 247S) (#38 ON3RI) (#39 PN) (#39 JRAS) (#95 ESPN)
Jada Seubert - 4 Star (#38 BTN) (#45 247S) (#65 PGH) (#72 ESPN) (#87 JRAS)
So when the composite score is used, IA will fall because each players Avg Rank score is weighted. Meaning the worse a player ranking the more points they are dropped. A player @ #8 gets more score points than someone at #27 which gets more points than someone at #72 etc etc. That's why I wrote we'll probably be ~30-35 ranked when the composite score drops both our players.
Actually, Hartwell is better ranked at other sources than I thought in my prior post. Oh hell, I just took a little more time and ran the composite #'s for both our players above and we would of ranked #27 for both the '25-'26 and '26-'27 classes. So we'll probably rank closer to 25-30 this year than the 30-35 range I had in my prior post when I update their most recent rankings and the '27 class fills in with signed commits.
At least you were able to verify where the data came from. However, whoever wrote their software, it's junk. Whoever updates the app is slow and not up to date. If I had time to poke around more, might find more problems with it. Would not rely on that 247S list right now.
The other important part is we're done for 2027 while others can still add to their class yet. Guess someone could uncommit and open it back up but I wouldn't count on that now.
Appreciate your passion!Rivals Industry is some sort of mashup of Rivals, ESPN and 247. Using RI is a double count. Also, until 247 updates it’s stale rankings, no need to use RI. The 247, JR AS and PGH ratings are all hopelessly out of date, for example they still have Sidney Mobley as a ‘27 recruit. She reclassified to ‘26 and plays this season for Ohio State. Until updated, 247, JR AS and PGH are pretty worthless. ESPN and Rivals are the only post summer rankings. PN was an early summer ranking.
JFCHoly crap, what are you going for? NYT best seller.
Iowa was a finalist for a highly ranked national recruit. How is the recruiting cost for a Top10 recruit financially impractical when, in this case, Williams clearly expressed interest? She accepted an offer to visit and spent a full weekend on campus IIRC. It would be coaching malpractice to not spend red carpet money on a player like Williams.Not a practical use of recruiting dollars.
Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.Iowa was a finalist for a highly ranked national recruit. How is the recruiting cost for a Top10 recruit financially impractical when, in this case, Williams clearly expressed interest? She accepted an offer to visit and spent a full weekend on campus IIRC. It would be coaching malpractice to not spend red carpet money on a player like Williams.
OK well that is clearly an after-the-fact wild guess on your part…..Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
"Wild guess"?????OK well that is clearly an after-the-fact wild guess on your part…..
She probably wasn't ever really considering anywhere else and in a competitive environment you can't maximize your value unless others are bidding on your services. That's just the nature of today's environment with all of these highly rated recruits. Why draw it out? All of these kids get flown places and fawned over, so why not?Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.She probably wasn't ever really considering anywhere else and in a competitive environment you can't maximize your value unless others are bidding on your services. That's just the nature of today's environment with all of these highly rated recruits. Why draw it out? All of these kids get flown places and fawned over, so why not?
Well he's right about one thing. If you don't try you don't get. I'm not familiar with the history, but one would have thought that the odds of landing McKenna out of California were pretty long when that cycle began, so..Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.
Extremely unlikely.
You act like you know more than Iowa’s coaching staff. Bottom line: you don’t.Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.
Extremely unlikely.
It was down to Iowa and UCLA.Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.
Extremely unlikely.
Yes, you're correct on all that. That's why my rankings are not up to date now. I use to update them more often when I only tracked the Top 25 teams from multiple reporting sites. Now that I expanded to 100+ teams getting at least one Top 100+ ranked player from multiple sources it became too time consuming. Now I'll wait until late summer of their graduating year to update to hopefully catch the latest rankings put out.Rivals Industry is some sort of mashup of Rivals, ESPN and 247. Using RI is a double count. Also, until 247 updates it’s stale rankings, no need to use RI. The 247, JR AS and PGH ratings are all hopelessly out of date, for example they still have Sidney Mobley as a ‘27 recruit. She reclassified to ‘26 and plays this season for Ohio State. Until updated, 247, JR AS and PGH are pretty worthless. ESPN and Rivals are the only post summer rankings. PN was an early summer ranking.
What's the prize for finishing second?It was down to Iowa and UCLA.
You said “other poster must think Iowa was a serious option. Extremely unlikely”What's the prize for finishing second?
She's from Los VegasI tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.
Extremely unlikely.
You act like you know more than Iowa’s coaching staff. Bottom line: you don’t.
You also pretend to stand in the shoes of Williams and/or her family to characterize Iowa as “extremely” unlikely lol you don’t know squat.
I’m old enough to remember you dogging me for two weeks for a source when I simply responded"Wild guess"?????
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Why does the ranking matter to you? It seems you have a dislike for so many aspects of the women's team, but here you are = why? It seems, to me, your whole purpose on these boards is to be the antagonist, to push buttons to get responses = whatever it is, you just seem like a miserable person to me = so carry on and continue to add zero to this board!
I still think it's funny that anyone thinks this year's recruiting class ranks #4 in the countr
Sorry you feel that way.Why does the ranking matter to you? It seems you have a dislike for so many aspects of the women's team, but here you are = why? It seems, to me, your whole purpose on these boards is to be the antagonist, to push buttons to get responses = whatever it is, you just seem like a miserable person to me = so carry on and continue to add zero to this board!
Sorry you feel that way.
I'm just a fan as long as Jan Jensen isn't the coach. I hate her and I hope that she and the team fails miserably as long as she's in charge. It's not only here that I shat on her at every opportunity. You should see what I post across social media. You'd swear I'm pathological, but crazy can't see crazy.. so here I am.
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