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As of yesterday, 247 has Iowa ranked #4. Yes there are some 5* not commited, depending where they go could push uz down. 247 has Hartwell at #16 where ESecPN pushed her down. #16 and #42 on 247.

Yep, I see that. However, that's only one list and I wouldn't put much stock in it because they have some inconsistencies with the Top X list, Team Rankings and Current Individual Rankings.
Hartwell #21 (5-star - From what I understand in other posts her ranking went down after USA National Team tryouts, iirc)
Seubert #45 (5-star - I could be wrong but don't think Jada was ever considered a 5-star)


They have Iowa #4 with two 4-stars. So are they rating our 2 players at 4-stars or 5-stars? It looks like 4-stars but that #4 overall ranking indicates 5-stars.


However, they have our Overall Rank at #3 and not #4 here.


There are 22 non-commits ahead of Jada.
Brookeslee Colvin is one of them who committed on 9/22/26. She is not listed yet for IN.
Harper Dunn is another one who committed on 10/2/26. She is not listed yet for OK.
Sydney Mobley is another one who committed on 7/3/26. She is not listed yet for OSU.
Sydney Savoury is another one who committed on 11/6/26. She is not listed yet for UConn.
I'm not going through all 22 to see if they have already committed to a team yet. I just recall the names of players we recruited and they committed elsewhere.

Currently 247S only has 58 players listed, not 100 or more like others have it.

Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '25-'26 and it ranked as a #16 class.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '26-'27 and it ranked as a #13 class.
So that current #4 is wishful thinking for the multiple factors already stated.

Believe a composite ranking across multiple sites for a player is better than one service. That #16 & #13 mimic ranking is the best IA could be if applied in those prior years. Of course, everyone would choose the service that gave their team the highest rankings. To get around that, a composite ranking is used instead to level the playing field for all.

Here's the rankings I have listed so far for our 2 signed commits. They are not all updated.
Khalia Hartwell - 4 Star (#21 PGH) (#24 247S) (#38 ON3RI) (#39 PN) (#39 JRAS) (#95 ESPN)
Jada Seubert - 4 Star (#38 BTN) (#45 247S) (#65 PGH) (#72 ESPN) (#87 JRAS)

So when the composite score is used, IA will fall because each players Avg Rank score is weighted. Meaning the worse a player ranking the more points they are dropped. A player @ #8 gets more score points than someone at #27 which gets more points than someone at #72 etc etc. That's why I wrote we'll probably be ~30-35 ranked when the composite score drops both our players.

Actually, Hartwell is better ranked at other sources than I thought in my prior post. Oh hell, I just took a little more time and ran the composite #'s for both our players above and we would of ranked #27 for both the '25-'26 and '26-'27 classes. So we'll probably rank closer to 25-30 this year than the 30-35 range I had in my prior post when I update their most recent rankings and the '27 class fills in with signed commits.

At least you were able to verify where the data came from. However, whoever wrote their software, it's junk. Whoever updates the app is slow and not up to date. If I had time to poke around more, might find more problems with it. Would not rely on that 247S list right now.

The other important part is we're done for 2027 while others can still add to their class yet. Guess someone could uncommit and open it back up but I wouldn't count on that now.
 

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It's one thing to aim high.
It's another to use time and resources chasing a legacy recruit.
The "hit" probability had to be extraordinarily low.

I believe this is fair, I do think there was an in for Iowa that made the staff feel they had a fighting chance, I believe Nation’s mom while the GM of the Aces got some input from Megan and Kate in regard to the culture and family atmosphere at Iowa. Nation said during her recruitment that it was a key factor for her. I’m guessing that probably went quite a ways towards Iowa getting an official visit. I believe Nation’s mom genuinely liked what she saw at Iowa, Enough so that when Amari called her and asked for advice after deciding to leave OSU she suggested Iowa. Nation’s mom was Amari’s AAU coach. So was it a long shot, Yup, In this case I think it was worth taking a shot. Plus in this transfer portal era you never know what can happen on down the road.
 

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Yep, I see that. However, that's only one list and I wouldn't put much stock in it because they have some inconsistencies with the Top X list, Team Rankings and Current Individual Rankings.
Hartwell #21 (5-star - From what I understand in other posts her ranking went down after USA National Team tryouts, iirc)
Seubert #45 (5-star - I could be wrong but don't think Jada was ever considered a 5-star)


They have Iowa #4 with two 4-stars. So are they rating our 2 players at 4-stars or 5-stars? It looks like 4-stars but that #4 overall ranking indicates 5-stars.


However, they have our Overall Rank at #3 and not #4 here.


There are 22 non-commits ahead of Jada.
Brookeslee Colvin is one of them who committed on 9/22/26. She is not listed yet for IN.
Harper Dunn is another one who committed on 10/2/26. She is not listed yet for OK.
Sydney Mobley is another one who committed on 7/3/26. She is not listed yet for OSU.
Sydney Savoury is another one who committed on 11/6/26. She is not listed yet for UConn.
I'm not going through all 22 to see if they have already committed to a team yet. I just recall the names of players we recruited and they committed elsewhere.

Currently 247S only has 58 players listed, not 100 or more like others have it.

Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '25-'26 and it ranked as a #16 class.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '26-'27 and it ranked as a #13 class.
So that current #4 is wishful thinking for the multiple factors already stated.

Believe a composite ranking across multiple sites for a player is better than one service. That #16 & #13 mimic ranking is the best IA could be if applied in those prior years. Of course, everyone would choose the service that gave their team the highest rankings. To get around that, a composite ranking is used instead to level the playing field for all.

Here's the rankings I have listed so far for our 2 signed commits. They are not all updated.
Khalia Hartwell - 4 Star (#21 PGH) (#24 247S) (#38 ON3RI) (#39 PN) (#39 JRAS) (#95 ESPN)
Jada Seubert - 4 Star (#38 BTN) (#45 247S) (#65 PGH) (#72 ESPN) (#87 JRAS)

So when the composite score is used, IA will fall because each players Avg Rank score is weighted. Meaning the worse a player ranking the more points they are dropped. A player @ #8 gets more score points than someone at #27 which gets more points than someone at #72 etc etc. That's why I wrote we'll probably be ~30-35 ranked when the composite score drops both our players.

Actually, Hartwell is better ranked at other sources than I thought in my prior post. Oh hell, I just took a little more time and ran the composite #'s for both our players above and we would of ranked #27 for both the '25-'26 and '26-'27 classes. So we'll probably rank closer to 25-30 this year than the 30-35 range I had in my prior post when I update their most recent rankings and the '27 class fills in with signed commits.

At least you were able to verify where the data came from. However, whoever wrote their software, it's junk. Whoever updates the app is slow and not up to date. If I had time to poke around more, might find more problems with it. Would not rely on that 247S list right now.

The other important part is we're done for 2027 while others can still add to their class yet. Guess someone could uncommit and open it back up but I wouldn't count on that now.

Rivals Industry is some sort of mashup of Rivals, ESPN and 247. Using RI is a double count. Also, until 247 updates it’s stale rankings, no need to use RI. The 247, JR AS and PGH ratings are all hopelessly out of date, for example they still have Sidney Mobley as a ‘27 recruit. She reclassified to ‘26 and plays this season for Ohio State. Until updated, 247, JR AS and PGH are pretty worthless. ESPN and Rivals are the only post summer rankings. PN was an early summer ranking.
 
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Yep, I see that. However, that's only one list and I wouldn't put much stock in it because they have some inconsistencies with the Top X list, Team Rankings and Current Individual Rankings.
Hartwell #21 (5-star - From what I understand in other posts her ranking went down after USA National Team tryouts, iirc)
Seubert #45 (5-star - I could be wrong but don't think Jada was ever considered a 5-star)


They have Iowa #4 with two 4-stars. So are they rating our 2 players at 4-stars or 5-stars? It looks like 4-stars but that #4 overall ranking indicates 5-stars.


However, they have our Overall Rank at #3 and not #4 here.


There are 22 non-commits ahead of Jada.
Brookeslee Colvin is one of them who committed on 9/22/26. She is not listed yet for IN.
Harper Dunn is another one who committed on 10/2/26. She is not listed yet for OK.
Sydney Mobley is another one who committed on 7/3/26. She is not listed yet for OSU.
Sydney Savoury is another one who committed on 11/6/26. She is not listed yet for UConn.
I'm not going through all 22 to see if they have already committed to a team yet. I just recall the names of players we recruited and they committed elsewhere.

Currently 247S only has 58 players listed, not 100 or more like others have it.

Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '25-'26 and it ranked as a #16 class.
Tried to mimic a #21 & #45 rated player in the class of '26-'27 and it ranked as a #13 class.
So that current #4 is wishful thinking for the multiple factors already stated.

Believe a composite ranking across multiple sites for a player is better than one service. That #16 & #13 mimic ranking is the best IA could be if applied in those prior years. Of course, everyone would choose the service that gave their team the highest rankings. To get around that, a composite ranking is used instead to level the playing field for all.

Here's the rankings I have listed so far for our 2 signed commits. They are not all updated.
Khalia Hartwell - 4 Star (#21 PGH) (#24 247S) (#38 ON3RI) (#39 PN) (#39 JRAS) (#95 ESPN)
Jada Seubert - 4 Star (#38 BTN) (#45 247S) (#65 PGH) (#72 ESPN) (#87 JRAS)

So when the composite score is used, IA will fall because each players Avg Rank score is weighted. Meaning the worse a player ranking the more points they are dropped. A player @ #8 gets more score points than someone at #27 which gets more points than someone at #72 etc etc. That's why I wrote we'll probably be ~30-35 ranked when the composite score drops both our players.

Actually, Hartwell is better ranked at other sources than I thought in my prior post. Oh hell, I just took a little more time and ran the composite #'s for both our players above and we would of ranked #27 for both the '25-'26 and '26-'27 classes. So we'll probably rank closer to 25-30 this year than the 30-35 range I had in my prior post when I update their most recent rankings and the '27 class fills in with signed commits.

At least you were able to verify where the data came from. However, whoever wrote their software, it's junk. Whoever updates the app is slow and not up to date. If I had time to poke around more, might find more problems with it. Would not rely on that 247S list right now.

The other important part is we're done for 2027 while others can still add to their class yet. Guess someone could uncommit and open it back up but I wouldn't count on that now.
Holy crap, what are you going for? NYT best seller.
 
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Rivals Industry is some sort of mashup of Rivals, ESPN and 247. Using RI is a double count. Also, until 247 updates it’s stale rankings, no need to use RI. The 247, JR AS and PGH ratings are all hopelessly out of date, for example they still have Sidney Mobley as a ‘27 recruit. She reclassified to ‘26 and plays this season for Ohio State. Until updated, 247, JR AS and PGH are pretty worthless. ESPN and Rivals are the only post summer rankings. PN was an early summer ranking.
Appreciate your passion!
 

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Not a practical use of recruiting dollars.
Iowa was a finalist for a highly ranked national recruit. How is the recruiting cost for a Top10 recruit financially impractical when, in this case, Williams clearly expressed interest? She accepted an offer to visit and spent a full weekend on campus IIRC. It would be coaching malpractice to not spend red carpet money on a player like Williams.
 

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Iowa was a finalist for a highly ranked national recruit. How is the recruiting cost for a Top10 recruit financially impractical when, in this case, Williams clearly expressed interest? She accepted an offer to visit and spent a full weekend on campus IIRC. It would be coaching malpractice to not spend red carpet money on a player like Williams.
Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
 

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Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.
She probably wasn't ever really considering anywhere else and in a competitive environment you can't maximize your value unless others are bidding on your services. That's just the nature of today's environment with all of these highly rated recruits. Why draw it out? All of these kids get flown places and fawned over, so why not?
 
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She probably wasn't ever really considering anywhere else and in a competitive environment you can't maximize your value unless others are bidding on your services. That's just the nature of today's environment with all of these highly rated recruits. Why draw it out? All of these kids get flown places and fawned over, so why not?
Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.

Extremely unlikely.
 

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Yep, but the other poster must think Iowa was a serious option.

Extremely unlikely.
You act like you know more than Iowa’s coaching staff. Bottom line: you don’t.

You also pretend to stand in the shoes of Williams and/or her family to characterize Iowa as “extremely” unlikely lol you don’t know squat.
 
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Rivals Industry is some sort of mashup of Rivals, ESPN and 247. Using RI is a double count. Also, until 247 updates it’s stale rankings, no need to use RI. The 247, JR AS and PGH ratings are all hopelessly out of date, for example they still have Sidney Mobley as a ‘27 recruit. She reclassified to ‘26 and plays this season for Ohio State. Until updated, 247, JR AS and PGH are pretty worthless. ESPN and Rivals are the only post summer rankings. PN was an early summer ranking.
Yes, you're correct on all that. That's why my rankings are not up to date now. I use to update them more often when I only tracked the Top 25 teams from multiple reporting sites. Now that I expanded to 100+ teams getting at least one Top 100+ ranked player from multiple sources it became too time consuming. Now I'll wait until late summer of their graduating year to update to hopefully catch the latest rankings put out.
 

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Or...she was using Iowa for leverage to increase $$$ from UCLA.
I tend to believe she was never leaving Los Angeles.

You really have no idea regarding her recruiting by Jan. You like to speculate especially if it some way makes you feel better in your warped mind.
 

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You act like you know more than Iowa’s coaching staff. Bottom line: you don’t.

You also pretend to stand in the shoes of Williams and/or her family to characterize Iowa as “extremely” unlikely lol you don’t know squat.

He spends all of his time trying to come up with something negative about Jan. It probably makes him feel better about himself.
 

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In all the years of lurking around here. I have only used the ignore hammer twice. Anon is one of two. Just not worth the aggravation.
 
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I still think it's funny that anyone thinks this year's recruiting class ranks #4 in the countr
Why does the ranking matter to you? It seems you have a dislike for so many aspects of the women's team, but here you are = why? It seems, to me, your whole purpose on these boards is to be the antagonist, to push buttons to get responses = whatever it is, you just seem like a miserable person to me = so carry on and continue to add zero to this board!
 
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Why does the ranking matter to you? It seems you have a dislike for so many aspects of the women's team, but here you are = why? It seems, to me, your whole purpose on these boards is to be the antagonist, to push buttons to get responses = whatever it is, you just seem like a miserable person to me = so carry on and continue to add zero to this board!
Sorry you feel that way.

I'm just a fan.
 

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Sorry you feel that way.

I'm just a fan as long as Jan Jensen isn't the coach. I hate her and I hope that she and the team fails miserably as long as she's in charge. It's not only here that I shat on her at every opportunity. You should see what I post across social media. You'd swear I'm pathological, but crazy can't see crazy.. so here I am.

FIFY.... Just keeping it real as you like to say superfan.
 
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