Marcus Neal committed to Penn State. Huge get for Penn State complete stud.
It's not about being thrifty. It's simply about paying guys what they're worth. We're clearly not afraid to shell out for guys like Rojas, Kemajou, Granville, Howard, Dixon, the rest of the offensive line, etc. It's all going to come back to cost/value analysis. If Amare was a better LB, he'd be offered more.Wasn’t the argument that Franklin was reluctant to spend NIL? Now, we are being thrifty even though we were led to believe NIL wasn’t an issue? Something doesn’t add up.
Gotcha. You were saying it with such conviction, I thought you would have a few names off the top of your head.Whoever coach Campbell selects will be the better LB. That’s why you should be patient and let things play out.
How long until that changesThey may not care, but they do have to get through university acceptance and schedule classes prior to the start of the semester, otherwise they cant be in school and be training and practiciing with the team.
And just to add to my previous post... the argument is Franklin misused NIL by OVER-spending on guys who never saw the field and UNDER-spending on guys who were slam-dunk contributors.Wasn’t the argument that Franklin was reluctant to spend NIL? Now, we are being thrifty even though we were led to believe NIL wasn’t an issue? Something doesn’t add up.
Gotcha. You were saying it with such conviction, I thought you would have a few names off the top of your head.
We almost beat Indiana with Dom Deluca on one side. Not saying all players are going to be plug and play for big ten championships, but I think its more about right size, right motivations, and development than big names....at this point. Indiana is going to start to attract big names, because they have done it with JMU guys.PSU can’t just expect to take only the ISU guys and be successful in the B1G.
Mike Hull was pretty good and he was slightly taller than Peter Dinklage.This isn’t against you, just the height argument in general. Who cares? Production is production.
Sam Mills.Mike Hull was pretty good and he was slightly taller than Peter Dinklage.
For now.Acceptance into an academic institution is not court dependent. There is nothing a court can say if academic requirements are x, students are required to meet x, and an athlete does not meet x. Universities cannot legally be made to take a student-athlete (even if student is in word only).
Sounds like we didn't meet his NIL demands not that we ran him off
You are basically just full of ****! You will be the first one, and happy about it, to be on here to say “I told you so”.What flavor Kool Aid are you drinking these days. As I have said before, I like the Campbell hire and hope he wins those Big Ten and National Championships Kraft promised but call me old fashioned in that I prefer to see how Penn State does when they start playing games this September. I am particularly interested in seeing how Becht does at Penn State vs how Grunk does at wherever he goes.
Semantics. It's probably very rare to "run a guy off." But we're not paying him what he wants. Frankly, I'm happy we have a real GM who isn't basing these NIL decisions on "It starts with I love you, and ends with I love you."Sounds like we didn't meet his NIL demands not that we ran him off
A bird in hand is worth two in the bush though?This is just a guess, but maybe the issue is that they are designating a certain amount of money total to the linebacker group and they know they need to pick up at least two or three and paying Campbell what he wants goes above that target amount. I think much of this is the new general manager trying to use a NFL type system of paying for positions based on average value
That's not semantics. If he wants some ridiculous amount of money we aren't going to just pay it because he's asking for it. We made him what we considered a fair offer. The guys we don't want aren't getting any NIL offers.Semantics. It's probably very rare to "run a guy off." But we're not paying him what he wants. Frankly, I'm happy we have a real GM who isn't basing these NIL decisions on "It starts with I love you, and ends with I love you."
Could be, maybe they have the two on line 1 already?A bird in hand is worth two in the bush though?
You argue just to argue.That's not semantics. If he wants some ridiculous amount of money we aren't going to just pay it because he's asking for it. We made him what we considered a fair offer. The guys we don't want aren't getting any NIL offers.
I have no doubt Campbell told a bunch of guys to leave. A professional way.
Of course, we were dissing him .
Of course, we were dissing him .
Agree. Disagreement, not disrespect. Disagreement over value.Yeah, im sure I'll take heat for this, but "diss culture" is just code for "i didnt get what I want, when I wanted it, how I wanted it." Some call this "life" others call it disrespect. What I do think I believe, is that you dont want a bunch of "diss culture" guys on your team, which is maybe why Amare didnt get what he wanted from this staff.
Of course, we were dissing him .
Agree, except I think the coaches and players on the team have championship aspirations in 2026. Why not? Let it come together. It's just starting.PSU is never going to land or keep the guys whose primary motivation is money. Matt Campbell doesn't appear to be the type of guy to take photos in front of Bentleys while Chaz Coleman demands north of $2M. Overpaying a senior like Amare Campbell to start for a team with no NC aspirations is asinine. Let him go to Texas Tech or LSU.
Pay to keep the young core intact, grab two-deep guys from ISU out of the portal and use the money towards recruiting the guys that want to be here in the future. No more payouts for cheap recruiting wins (Olesh), backup WRs (Clifford) and 6-figure payouts to non-contributing special teamers.
According to reporter Matt Fortuna Penn State is allocating $30 million in NIL funding to the football team this season. So it is not a hard cap, but it is the money we have raised from all sources for this season.Where is everybody getting this $30 million NIL cap from? If I understand it correctly, the number is $20.5 million allowed to come directly from the school. This doesn’t include third party NIL funding. I am unaware of a hard $30 million cap and find it VERY hard to believe the SEC schools, O$U, Oregon, USC, TT etc will have such a cap. The mantra has been that PSU has no issue with NIL funding now. So, why let a guy like Campbell walk when he’s a proven commodity already on your roster?
I would ask, what do you think you are worth ? How much?Yeah, im sure I'll take heat for this, but "diss culture" is just code for "i didnt get what I want, when I wanted it, how I wanted it." Some call this "life" others call it disrespect. What I do think I believe, is that you dont want a bunch of "diss culture" guys on your team, which is maybe why Amare didnt get what he wanted from this staff.
Exactly! The new staff/GM are pretty much renegotiateing these players deals. Im sure its difficult, if the old staff over valued someone and the new staff doesn't see that player at the same or greater value. It would be like Liam Clifford coming back and Campbell not valuing him at the $500k that Franklin supposedly did and Clifford now wanting a million dollars. If its true that Franklin spread money around to everyone, then Im sure, there were many who were looking at reduced or no NIL at all. It really has to be difficult if your trying to evaluate and retain a roster, where you potentially have a large number of players receiving NIL and some players who were over valued and now they feel based off the previous valuation that they are worth way more then they are.Semantics. It's probably very rare to "run a guy off." But we're not paying him what he wants. Frankly, I'm happy we have a real GM who isn't basing these NIL decisions on "It starts with I love you, and ends with I love you."
Agree totally but we do not know the price tag and an exorbitant price tag may preclude us from solving other needs. The problem with Franklin that he had no methodology on the use of NIL outside of paying exorbitant amount for loyal seniors and overpaying for high star TE recruits. 1/3 of all the players in college football are in the transfer portal. This is now a mathematical calculation here in the GM office with no emotions attached. I wanted Amare to stay, but the reality is that he was very solid but not a superstar and not the prototypical CMC body type of a defensive player. He’s not going to get superstar money in our system. He may get it elsewhere, and hopefully he does because he may not make it in the league at his size. Interestingly, King Mack is another similar example of a shorter player not getting superstar money in our system and going elsewhere. Evidently Rojas with a rumored ACL got the money he wanted, but he has the height and speed.This isn’t against you, just the height argument in general. Who cares? Production is production.
So, they kept the guy who is always injured and let the most productive player on last year’s defense walk. I wanted both guys but that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The height argument is just a lazy excuse. I find it hard to believe a smart guy like Campbell would ever say that.Agree totally but we do not know the price tag and an exorbitant price tag may preclude us from solving other needs. The problem with Franklin that he had no methodology on the use of NIL outside of paying exorbitant amount for loyal seniors and overpaying for high star TE recruits. 1/3 of all the players in college football are in the transfer portal. This is now a mathematical calculation here in the GM office with no emotions attached. I wanted Amare to stay, but the reality is that he was very solid but not a superstar and not the prototypical CMC body type of a defensive player. He’s not going to get superstar money in our system. He may get it elsewhere, and hopefully he does because he may not make it in the league at his size. Interestingly, King Mack is another similar example of a shorter player not getting superstar money in our system and going elsewhere. Evidently Rojas with a rumored ACL got the money he wanted, but he has the height and speed.
The defense collapsed after Rojas went down. The middle of the field opened up and we got gashed, with Amare there. Opposing qbs who may not beat you or I in a footrace ran wild through the defense. Obviously some of it was coaching and Knowles’ scheme, but the players like Amare needed to make plays and they didn’t. Again, I wanted Amare to stay but let’s reserve judgement until after the portal closes.So, they kept the guy who is always injured and let the most productive player on last year’s defense walk. I wanted both guys but that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The height argument is just a lazy excuse. I find it hard to believe a smart guy like Campbell would ever say that.
Of course, we were dissing him .
If you don’t want a lot of diss/respect culture on your team, then I’m afraid your team might not have as many players as you need. That type of culture is pervasive with kids and actually helps some guys stay motivated. How many times do you hear a player on a championship team say that the haters didn’t believe in them—even when it’s not generally true? Happens all over.Yeah, im sure I'll take heat for this, but "diss culture" is just code for "i didnt get what I want, when I wanted it, how I wanted it." Some call this "life" others call it disrespect. What I do believe iss that you dont want a bunch of "diss culture" guys on your team, which is maybe why Amare didnt get what he wanted from this staff.
I think the issue was who Amare was paired with after Rojas went down. Not Amare. Amare and Rojas were really strong together. It was mind boggling that for some reason Knowles had Amare’s co starter trying to chase guys like Nico, not Amare. Nico gashed that D and it was obvious why.The defense collapsed after Rojas went down. The middle of the field opened up and we got gashed, with Amare there. Opposing qbs who may not beat you or I in a footrace ran wild through the defense. Obviously some of it was coaching and Knowles’ scheme, but the players like Amare needed to make plays and they didn’t. Again, I wanted Amare to stay but let’s reserve judgement until after the portal closes.