'25 Super 32 Challenge, 10/18-19, thread
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Most of the BaschAMania show is focused on Super 32, so I'm putting this here, as opposed to the Social Media thread.
0:00 - Intro & Small Talk
01:58 - The Scratches at Super 32
04:30 - Bo Bassett Won 4th Title
07:00 - Jorje Rios Wins it Unseeded!
10:45 - Cali, Cali, Cali
15:30 - Quick RAF03/04 Nugget
17:35 - Rocklin Zinkin & Buchanan Having 6 Placers
25:35 - Depth of This Year’s Super 32
27:11 - Antonio Mills Gets It Done
35:30 - 138lbs, 144lbs
40:50 - Bo Bassett Wins #4
46:00 - The Melvin Miller Show
47:30 - DreShaun Ross Being Recruited for Football?
56:15 - 190lbs - 285lbs at Super 32
01:03:00 - FloArena/NextGen, WrestleStat
01:10:00 - National Duals Adds 50k in Prize Money
01:13:00 - Beshada Nugget of the Week: Gabe Logan to Michigan
01:17:50 - Nate Jesurgoa Wrestling Again?
01:20:00 - RTC Loopholes
0:00 - Intro & Small Talk
01:58 - The Scratches at Super 32
04:30 - Bo Bassett Won 4th Title
07:00 - Jorje Rios Wins it Unseeded!
10:45 - Cali, Cali, Cali
15:30 - Quick RAF03/04 Nugget
17:35 - Rocklin Zinkin & Buchanan Having 6 Placers
25:35 - Depth of This Year’s Super 32
27:11 - Antonio Mills Gets It Done
35:30 - 138lbs, 144lbs
40:50 - Bo Bassett Wins #4
46:00 - The Melvin Miller Show
47:30 - DreShaun Ross Being Recruited for Football?
56:15 - 190lbs - 285lbs at Super 32
01:03:00 - FloArena/NextGen, WrestleStat
01:10:00 - National Duals Adds 50k in Prize Money
01:13:00 - Beshada Nugget of the Week: Gabe Logan to Michigan
01:17:50 - Nate Jesurgoa Wrestling Again?
01:20:00 - RTC Loopholes
Just curious about those few that were touting Hutcherson last year around this time. A 4th place finish at PIAA and DNP here. Another dad that puts self-promotion ahead of success.
Borge, although I didnt' give him props as being PSU material, impressed this weekend. Any story why JJ hasn't done much since Freestyle season?
JJ I imagine is just training I have not asked anyone but that's my guess.
Borge did look good sounds like he's down to 2 schools and his decision will be coming soon. The next 2 weeks we should hear a bunch of verbals from the class of 2027
We’ll still hear the chirping when Illinois wins the all important Greco title at Fargo next year
Yes, after Penn State wins the obscure title of NCAA D1 National Champions.
Super 32 is such an awesome tournament, I do have an annoyance though. Per their own rules "For grades 9-12.NO POST-GRADS! 7th & 8th graders may wrestle in the High School Division if they choose to, but may not compete in both the Middle School and High School Divisions."
* I just find the "no POST-GRADS!" To be comical because you have kids like basset who are older than the vast majority of kids who graduated highschool in 2025 are currently and he's tearing kids up at super 32. No post grads should be amended, no one over 18 years old or who will be over 18 years old before the turn of the calendar year. Okay, irrational rant over. No one cares I know.
* I just find the "no POST-GRADS!" To be comical because you have kids like basset who are older than the vast majority of kids who graduated highschool in 2025 are currently and he's tearing kids up at super 32. No post grads should be amended, no one over 18 years old or who will be over 18 years old before the turn of the calendar year. Okay, irrational rant over. No one cares I know.
How else are they keeping Downey out?
I hate the "redshirting" that is going on. It's everywhere. My son is a sprinter and placed 1st in the 100m and 2nd in the 200m at the regional (I guess, county) championships last year (as a 4th grader). The city track teams/competition were based on birth year, not grade. A few weeks after the regional track meet his elementary school had a track meet against another local school and he chose to do just the 100m. Having just beat several hundred other kids his age who train to sprint in the regional meet, figured he'd beat 7 other random 4th graders in one race without even pushing; he placed 3rd. The two kids who beat him were a head taller. Come to find out they were both 12, he had turned 10 a handful of days prior.
Kind of ridiculous allowing legal adults to compete against kids, possibly as young as 12, especially in a combat sport. It's even a bigger issue in football.
this is not wrestling but had to get it off my chest my grandson plays soccer for Girard first round playoff against Erie Prep, Prep winning 2-0 with 15 minutes to play game stopped for lightning finished the next day next day they call the game and gave the win to Prep what bull district 10 has always favored Prep I am sure Prep had something to do with it has anyone ever heard of this in a playoff game?
You're right, this has nothing to do with wrestling. Maybe go to the McAndrew Board
Yea I'm very against it as well. I don't even know that the perceived benefit exists. The thought that you'll give your kid a leg up by being much older works for highschool sure. However, college coaches are not stupid. They know the ages at which boys/young men experience their most physical growth and at which ages you start to peak. If I were a college coach I would search out guys like Jayden James ( biased I know) because they're not even old for their grade but competing at that high level already. James has substantially more natural growth and improvement ahead of him than Basset simply because one is already 19 and one still 17. College coaches know that finding a talented kid who's young means more potential for growth and improvement. So, the vast majority of parents holding their kids back aren't even giving them a leg up they're just stuck in an old mindset...The fact is we have many newly enlisted military members of the military who are younger than Basset and other golf backs. Hell, when I was Bassets age I had already been in the Air Force, went through basic, tech school, follow on training, and had started at my first duty station. He's just now starting senior year. It's a pretty absurd practice
District 10 has always had issues like that. I'm from that area. Our biggest issue was competing against "Reynolds kids" which meant the best kids from Sharon,hickory, Greenville ,Mercer, commodore perry etc etc who's parents found a P.O box in the transfer area so they're kid could wrestle at Reynolds. Or, having our basketball team play against Kennedy Catholic. Farm kids from single A farm schools playing against recruited players with D1 and D2 offers from Cleveland,Pittsburgh and other surrounding areas....The only saving grace for our wrestling program was Kevin Drew, a Reynolds grad and lock haven Alumni who could and still does coach his *** off.
I’m from up near there as well and I have a ton of respect for Coach Drew. Jimmy Mulligan in Saegertown is another one I respect the hell out of. The non-boundary thing has never sat well with me given I grew up competing against schools like Prep and Reynolds who don’t have to pull from a specific zip code like most of the schools in the area.
That said and that aside, to circle back to Tull’s original point, it’s my understanding that all parties (Prep players/coaches and Girard players/coaches) were on board with suspending the game and resuming play the next day. For some reason the PIAA ruled enough of the game had been played to declare a winner. Even the sportswriters were baffled.
90-95% of the time, I don’t like the “redshirt” idea. It’s usually an ego driven thing that parents use as a vehicle to attain some sense of fame and glory they never achieved themselves. I’ve seen a couple of exceptions, however. The first was a teammate of mine from HS whose mom enrolled him in kindergarten late so he was always in the same grade, just a year or so older than his classmates. Plus, he had a fall birthday so he was always SOL for PJWs.
Another, more recent example, comes from one of my current wrestlers. Highly accomplished kid. His dad, grandpa, and uncles were all really good wrestlers. Mom’s a NP, grandpa owned the hardware store in town for decades, uncle is a successful landscaper, dad is on the school board, etc. Problem is, he’s extremely young for his grade. He just turned 13 at the beginning of his 8th grade year. Now his parents are talking about holding him back next year so he can finally be in the right grade and mature a little more socially before hitting HS. At this moment, I’m not sure where I stand on the matter. It’s a rare situation that is nuanced and complex. And it’s also not my decision to make ultimately.
well, Levi's parents didn't care. I held my kid back when I went from a private to public schools simply for the maturity reasons... and he wasn't the oldest - just the very youngest in his previous class. He was 18 when he graduated from HS. If you do it for sports I think you're making a mistake. If they're good enough, they will be good enough. Perspective!
I was already really young for my grade, then skipped a grade in elementary and then graduated early to do spring practice. But, I was one of those early developers who reached physical maturity in early adolescence. I bet all those CFB coaches recruiting me figured the 6'1" 220lbs 15yr old LB (I turned 17 the end of my freshman season in college) would be a monster with a few more years of growth. Joke was on them, as I was the same size (and not much stronger or faster) after 4yrs of keeping the bench warm in college. At 44 I am the same height and ~20lbs lighter than I was at 12.
kind of like ending the playoff game early in the pros thinking the team behind can never come back,down 2 goals 15 minutes to play plenty of time to come back the Girard players were not happy!I bet this will not happen again the rest of the playoffs!