+263,000 jobs...thanks President Trump **
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But....these aren't full-time......they are seasonal......(using your excuses when the same happened under Obama)
Not sure where you get your information, but this is from the WSJ:
By
JOSHUA JAMERSON
April 5, 2017 9:06 a.m. ET
40 COMMENTS
Private-sector hiring this year remained strong as employers reported adding more workers to their payrolls in March than expected, according to a report released Wednesday.
Private payrolls across the nation rose by 263,000 last month, said payroll processor Automatic Data Processing Inc. and forecasting firm Moody’s Analytics. This was much better than a gain of 180,000 expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal. In February, ADP’s report showed the private-sector added 298,000 jobs. The report is based on data collected from ADP clients in addition to lagged behind government figures.
“The gains are broad based but most notable in the goods producing side of the economy including construction, manufacturing and mining,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics.
Goods-producing industries, which include construction and manufacturing, added 82,000 jobs. Meanwhile, service-providing sectors such as hospitality added 181,000 jobs in March.
Most of the job gains came from small businesses, defined by ADP as companies with 49 or fewer employees. These firms added 118,000 jobs. Midsize firms with 50 to 499 employees added 100,000 workers, while large businesses added 45,000.
“Consumer dependent industries including health care, leisure and hospitality, and trade had strong growth during the month,” said Ahu Yildirmaz, vice president and co-head of the ADP Research Institute.
The Labor Department’s job report for March is expected on Friday. Economists surveyed by the Journal expect employers to have added 175,000 nonfarm jobs.
That's what they all do when they are forced to defend or refute facts when they can do neither. They simply leave, then come back later complaining about or fabricating something else.
Man you all are truly imbeciles. I stated I was simply using the remarks YOU guys made EVERY TIME these type of reports came out during Obama's 8 years. You gave him no credit for anything.......
I was not saying that what I said was true.....just simply doing what you did.....shout out a lie, and move on.
I was not saying that what I said was true.....just simply doing what you did.....shout out a lie, and move on.
LOL. You admit you're a liar and call us imbeciles for not recognizing you're a liar? Interesting.
It's called giving it right back to you......like how you all LIED with your remarks on the economy under Obama......but of course you wouldn't understand that......thus, imbecile claim.
Never lied. I may have pointed of out inconvenient facts that you did not like, but never lied.
So when did Obama ever exceed or even approach more than 2 or 2.5% real GDP during ANY of the 8 years of his so called "jobs expansion"?
While you're at it, tell us what the U6 (Labor participation rate) was during his 8 year term? How low did it go with all of the new jobs created during his watch?
What are those lies MountaineerWV?
Obama's GDP growth may have not met the average of 2.9% since the post-war era, but it did average 2.1%. Thus, I have provided you with the 2%-2.5% that you asked for......
That's not what I asked you, your numbers are wrong, didn't address unemployment (U6) and the bottom line is he's had the worst economic performance of any U.S. President in the modern era (since World WarII) Debt, deficits, unemployment, number of people out of the workforce, job losses, GDP, all historic or all times highs (or lows) depending on which measurement you use.
He was so bad we coined a new phrase to describe his pitiful econmy "the new normal"
Yea right
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...resident-history-never-have-year-3-gdp-growth
You call my numbers wrong, I'll call yours wrong. There......I found my sources, you use yours......and just because your sources claim "FAKE NEWS" doesn't mean that it's actually "fake".........but believe what you want, I will believe what I want. It's called being an AMERICAN......
OK fair enough. But since I'm more influenced by facts show me your numbers which refute what I told you about Obama's overall economic record compared to other Presidents of the modern era.
If I've misunderstood his overall performance as measured against his predecessors, I need to get that straight so I can stop believing "fake news"
So if what I posted in #13 is incorrect as a measure of his final evaluations, please link me to the facts that correct my inaccurate assessment of his overall 8 year economic performance, which as you know I've stated is the worst of all of his predecessors.
OK, got it?
Good. Now, fix me.
Maybe you should learn to read and think for yourself instead of complaining when people make fun of your idiocy?
Man randomly shouts false claims and the suggests others are stupid for missing his point. Maybe that man is running for the new ISIS Bahgdad Bob opening?
The specific legislation hasn't been passed by Congress yet, but I'd suggest his proposals to reduce overall corporate tax rates down to 15 or 20% has a lot to do with CFO's planning where to place all that additional capital.
There will also be revisions in business carryover allowances, as well as relaxation of their expensing on major capital equipment, elimination of deductibility allowances on large purchases for machinery, repatriation of assets held in offshore accounts either tax free or at reduced rates, changes in rates for S-subchapter filing classifications, and other reductions in the tax code desined to help businesses (especially small businesses) grow as well as expand their manufacturing capacity.
Not to mention relaxation of environmental rules and other alpahbet soup agency restrictions/limitations as well as future anticipated lower energy costs from expanded domestic energy production.
Let's put it this way, none of these proposals are signaling to large companies like Sprint that it's going to be tougher for them to add jobs or expand their business operations,consequently they are not waiting around and are ramping up in anticipation of an improved economic environment that's more business friendly.
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Looks like you were a tad pre-mature:
Nonfarm payrolls grew by just 98,000 in March though the unemployment rate fell to a 10-year low of 4.5 percent, according to a closely watched report Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Payrolls had been expected to increase by 180,000 in March, according to economists surveyed by Reuters.
"What a number. This makes your jaw drop," said Naeem Aslam, chief market analyst at Think Markets.
Comment devoid of facts. Wages up almost 3%. But not bothered by lack of facts, Boomboom likes.
PREMATURE EJACULATION[laughing]
US gained only 98,000 jobs in March, putting a chill on Trump's promises
Government hiring freeze and faltering retail sector led to a disappointing month following February report, which Trump seized upon as proof he’s boosted hiring
The US economy added just 98,000 jobs in March as a cold snap, a government hiring freeze and a faltering retail sector appear to have put the chill on Donald Trump’s promise to boost hiring.
The jobs market had got off to a flying start in 2017, adding an average of 236,500 jobs a month. February’s jobs report was the first under Trump and was seized upon by the president as evidence that his promise to bring back US manufacturing jobs was coming true.
Only two days ago the president took to Twitter to post: “JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!” and list the hiring decisions of major US firms since his election.
I guess you are happy with this poorer than expected number of jobs created? So you will not be upset when Americans start finding work in numbers greater than this?
So you are happier when people can't find work? This is your prescription to convince folks to vote for Leftist policies and politicians. We need fewer jobs not more? That's reason to celebrate, something to vote for?
OK
If our choices during the last election and the antics of both sides of the aisle in congress are any indication, I would say that American Exceptionalism is dead and gone. American Mediocritudity is alive and well though. (I have a letter in to Webster's, that will be a word soon)
OK, well when we get future jobs reports showing huge gains in the labor participation rate, wage and hiring gains... I'll expect to see your posts celebrating Americans getting back to work.
Believe it or not I'd like Trump to do a 180 and smarten up. Lead like a leader should. That's, more than likely, not going to happen. This cheer leading nonsense and kissing Trump's every action as if it's golden is insane. People that stoop to this should be called out for the fools they are. It's not what built this country... this notion that a politician is king. It's un-American to it's core.
After Bush tanked the country we were doing better under Obama but you wouldn't know it talking to a Repub. That's all on you, not me.
OK Best Va, so show me Bush's economy over 8 years compared to Obama's and tell me how things "got better" for us under Obama?
(btw, I had this same argument with another one of your friends on the Left the other day asking him for the same numbers for Obama vs his predecessors and he ran away)
So OK now you get to serve Best Virginia. You just stated in this post that we ended up doing better under Obama's economy than we did under Bush who you said "tanked" our country.
So post here their overall numbers...side-by-side... during each of their two terms in Office and point out to me where Obama's economy was overall better than Bush's? Just show me a side-by-side comparison and point out where Obama's economy was superior to Bush's?
This is what you said.
(I could do it for you, but I want you to back up your post here).
MountaineerWV either couldn't look this up, or knew it was pointless to try so he just gave up and never responded to this same question I asked him about Obama's record vs his predecessors the other day. He still hasn't posted his numbers showing how many times in 8 years when Obama's economy overall exceeded any more than 2.5 or even just 2% real GDP? Most times it was significantly less than even those mediocre numbers.
I'll wait for your response on his (Obama's) superior performance v Bush too, but I suspect I'll be waiting on you just like I'm still waiting on MountaineerWV.
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I don't give two ***** about regurgitated numbers and claims. I know what I see with my own eyes. I'm connected to industry while you're repeating some unknown with an agenda who happens to prop up your own agenda driven view. Sorry but I'm out there in the real world. I see it with my own eyes and my own paycheck. Manufacturing,oil, and gas boomed under Obama after bush tanked it. It slowed 5 months before the election and still hasn't picked back up to Obama levels... yet. I'm not going to peruse the internet to try and prove anything to you. You want to know how the country is doing? Look for jobs other than retail. Look for a job in manufacturing, oil or gas. Look for job openings in labor and trades. Stop relying on others to tell you what you know or don't know.
This is a very courageous response to something you claimed in your own post Best Virginia. If all you say in this post is true, wouldn't it be easy for you to prove by some simple numbers beyond your anecdotal observations?
You said the country "tanked" under Bush, and we were better under Obama. OK. I'll take you at your word but I'm not sure... so I asked you for proof. This was your response.
I think West Virginia University's football team is the greatest in all of College football...I truly believe that. However my Georgia friends disagree with me, and unless I can prove my claim to them with some solid numbers to back up my belief or Faith in my team, they just dismiss me as an unserious "homer" for my team. Know what Best Virginia? They're right!
So it's OK for you to believe Obama's economy was superior to Bush's, and that we were better off under it. Perception is reality when you are as blinded by ideology as you apparently are.
However what you believe and say, and what you can actually prove are two dfifferent things.
Unless you can show me some objective unbiased numbers to back up your assertions, you are just like the seasonal pollen dust blowing from the Spring flowering trees here in Georgia. Very irritating and obviously annoying, but also very forgettable and ultimately harmless after the first rain or overnight morning due. Here today...gone tomorrow.
Thanks for showing me how strong your arguments are (are not) for Obama's economic performance Best Virginia.
I didn't think you could answer my challenge to prove your claims, but I had to at least offer you a chance. I could easily post these numbers for you, but what's the point?
In your case, ignorance is bliss.
The entire country tanked under Bush, Obama saved it. I don't know how anyone could deny that. I'll give you an example of real world versus Fox News world. Under Obama, military contracts and jobs were plentiful. I know this for a fact. I worked in the industry. While this is happening, every Repub on every corner was decrying the weak military under Obama. How vulnerable we were as a country because of it. All the while, there's unemployed coal miners in WV crying how Obama took their jobs, when one u-haul truck to the Virginia coast is all it would take to get a very good job under military contract. You and I live in two different worlds. You live in a world where your anti-liberal agenda is propped up by people who get rich making you miserable and scared. I live in a world where real jobs put real money in my real bank account, all while shaking my head at the ignorant manipulated masses whining and crying because a black man was President.
Best Virgina my Man, I'm accepting everything you say here. I have no reason to doubt you are lying through your teeth. All I'm asking (I've asked) is for your proof to back up your claims.
If Obama's economy was as good as you claim, where is the raw data backing up your observations, especially compared to the horrible 8 years under Bush? Was it only good for you Best Virginia?
You can have a strong convert to your side of seeing things if you can just show me where what you're saying is correct. I need some numbers Dude!
How hard can this be if you're telling the Truth?
You tell us that "you are connected" to jobs and know what is going on. You are one greedy SOB if you are so "connected" and won't share with the rest of the economy. Damn, have you no sympathy for others - basic trait of liberals? Or, are you really not liberal, you just don't have other people's money with which to do good?