2nd place
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In 2001-02, Carmody's second year, we were in a 3-way tie for 4th if you look at everyone's record after 13 conference games, which was deep into February. I can't find daily standings, though, so I'm not sure if the actual standings ever reflected that.
Those are the only three examples, though. I think you have to go back to the 1950s for the next one.
Looks like we would've been in 6th place on Feb 20th when we were 7-6. IU was 10-3, Wisconsin was 10-5, OSU was 9-4, Illinois was 8-5, Minnesota was 7-5.
Yeah, I figured that might have been the case. The schedule was really unbalanced back then because of the odd number of teams.
Suffice to say, a W tomorrow places a strong hold on 2nd with what will be 5 games to go, as we’d be a game up on IU with the tiebreaker in hand.
Eventually some of these teams bunched together with 8 wins are going to have to drop some games. On the flip side, if they all track to 10-10, then obviously we only need to get to 11 to finish ahead of that pack.
All of these moving pieces, the poll snub, Kopp/Woodson’s comments about him, it all makes me think we’ll come out ready to play versus what would naturally be a letdown spot for a lot of teams.
Eventually some of these teams bunched together with 8 wins are going to have to drop some games. On the flip side, if they all track to 10-10, then obviously we only need to get to 11 to finish ahead of that pack.
All of these moving pieces, the poll snub, Kopp/Woodson’s comments about him, it all makes me think we’ll come out ready to play versus what would naturally be a letdown spot for a lot of teams.
Woodson should get better at analogies, it's a little different when a player forces a trade than when he's traded against his will.
I wouldn't either. Big plums is da man.
Yet, who knows if Simmons does not transfer if we would be seeing Barnhizer at all.
Bizarre comment, and counterproductive for his player and team.
Kopp may want to bring some earplugs. I usually worry that it just fires guys up - they’re used to it and often welcome it. But it should be interesting. This game last year was by far our best environment and performance. And now we’re actually good.
Not in this lifetime. One is a multi dimensional gamer and the other was more of a one trick pony. Plus at this point we have Barnhizer for longer
Did you see how he pulled up to let that long breakaway pass bounce so he would not have an issue handling it?
Barney is a fantastic three-dimensional player, LxWxH, great court presence! He's been having a little trouble with the fourth dimension, though. Needs to be aware of the clock and game situation at the end of halves. As far as correctable problems go, that's a pretty minor one that will probably be corrected in short order.
From a NET perspective we want teams we’re playing twice beat all the teams we only play once.
We also want as high quality wins as possible. For the rest of the year, rooting for Illini, Indiana and even Wisconsin to win as much as possible.
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Not worried about the Net. Just want to finish in the top 4 of the conference.
Yeah, really, 2 more wins ought to do it,.regardless of KenPom etc,, but, perhaps winning 2 then losing five might hurt.
If we beat IN and IA, that should have us in pretty good position regardless. Wouldn't really want o tose to PSU here but otherwise, win those next two and we are in really good shape. Then to lose the 5th game it would have to be in BTT
They basically used 1 bench player before Mag got injured. They are stretched thin. Why I often chuckle at mentions of us being short handed. When the reality is those comments are relative to having everyone available. Not relative to other teams.
We actually led the Big Ten into February that season before fading. It was our last good team before the big DROP. We were very competitive in the late 50s and early to mid 60s.
Any long time NU hoops fans have to be pinching themselves. It doesn’t seem real.
If the ‘Cats can pull the upset tonight, a double bye in the Big Ten tournament starts becoming a realistic possibility, even taking into account the tough closing conference slate.
Not in my wildest dreams did I think that conversation would be taking place. Incredible.
We lead Alcindor UCLA 42-28 at the half in the neutral court game at Chicago Stadium. Got annilated in the second half when they got the wake up call.
You made me wonder if this would be an "upset" or not.
And, indeed, we are underdogs by 2.5 pts. ESPN's match predictor gives us a 45.2% chance of winning.
NO RESPECT
Mag's injury was crippling to Rutgers. It was pointed out on this board that they were going to struggle. They have almost no bench.
Contrast that with NU, who loses Luke Hunger, who wasn't playing for us, but would certainly have been playing for a lot of Big Ten teams. Then we lose Roper, who was a starter last year, and the team actually starts playing better because Barnhizer (who has yet to start a game) starts getting more minutes and Martinelli ("useless" to some on this board) falls into the rotation and immediately makes positive contributions.
We are a relatively deep team - 10 guys on the roster who belong in the Big Ten (in one role or another).
"Not ready to contribute" = useless (this year).
We had some geniuses saying he was obviously being redshirted for that reason.
Sorry if you disagree ,but that sentiment was common on this board, based on no evidence whatsever other than the fact that Martinelli wasn't playing.
It would have made some sense to redshirt Martinelli had Hunger and Roper stayed healthy. At least imho
He would have benefited a lot from a red shirt year. He’s shown a lot flashes but as a freshman most of the weak parts of his game require time and work in the off-season and time in the program. The biggest benefit in season to a player’s development from redshirting is they can hit the gym without worry of preserving themselves for games. This allows a lot strength growth. He needs to learn to play within the flow of the offense still and needs to improve defensively. These are all things pretty much every freshman needs to work on jumping up to D1 basketball.
That’s not to say he isn’t/wasn’t able to contribute but Roper contributes more and while Martinelli has had some great flashes he’s still the 9th man in a healthy 8 man rotation.
There’s little to no development from playing 5 min a game. It’s done in practice mainly the off-season. Unless a player has a huge mental hurdle it won’t be solved in game.
When the teams identity is defense and the coach is defense first, players that are better at defense tend to play more. Freshman are typically not as good at defense as players that have a year or 3 in the weight room and system.
Start Berry and Beran. They’re streaky offensively, give the min to the hot hand + Barnhizer.
And unfortunately for us when he played here, not that many games in Assembly Hall