4-8: mark it down. And Beamer did it to himself

[18IsTheMan]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

 

[LonesomeRooster]

3 or 4 wins puts Beamer on the hotseat next year.

 

[IPOC]

I guess you are looking at Citadel & Clumpsin' right as our two wins to make 4 wins? Clumpsin' is very iffy.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If you want to trash me, trash me. Keep the receipts until the end of the season.

I see absolutely zero reason to believe we should think we can win a conference game outside of Kentucky.

 

[Lurker123]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

We did say something similar last year too. "So youre saying there's a chance".

Seriously, last year we started wondering if we could get to 6 wins around this time. (Also 2 years ago) Maybe we should redo that. What games get us to 6 wins? UK, and coastal get us to 4 wins.

Clemson does not look good at all, and could be our 5th. That leaves one upset. One game of Sellers running wild.

 

[Jonesz2]

If you want to trash me, trash me. Keep the receipts until the end of the season.

I see absolutely zero reason to believe we should think we can win a conference game outside of Kentucky.

This time last year what were your predictions for rest of the year? I just want to see if u can truly see the future.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This time last year what were your predictions for rest of the year? I just want to see if u can truly see the future.

I am not gonna hang my hat every season on us managing to pull something out of our a**. Yes, we got lightning in a bottle last year. But here’s the thing that tells you we were simply lucky last year. We have not come close to duplicating anything that gave us a success down the stretch last year. If it was actually due to quality coaching, we would see that carried over this year, but you don’t. It’s like they wiped the slate completely clean and we’re starting off exactly where we started off last year.

 

[Jonesz2]

I am not gonna hang my hat every season on us managing to pull something out of our a**. Yes, we got lightning in a bottle last year. But here’s the thing that tells you we were simply lucky last year. We have not come close to duplicating anything that gave us a success down the stretch last year. If it was actually due to quality coaching, we would see that carried over this year, but you don’t. It’s like they wiped the slate completely clean and we’re starting off exactly where we started off last year.

Just trying to be funny to keep from being so down this morning. Lol. When you hire position coaches that no other team in the sec would hire for that spot you should expect deficiencies. We think we ok on defense but go back and count all the missed tackles. No team I have seen this year is worse tackling. We toast. Beamer may lose this team and players may transfer if this continues to go south.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Just trying to be funny to keep from being so down this morning. Lol. When you hire position coaches that no other team in the sec would hire for that spot you should expect deficiencies. We think we ok on defense but go back and count all the missed tackles. No team I have seen this year is worse tackling. We toast. Beamer may lose this team and players may transfer if this continues to go south.

Ha, gotcha!

 

[atlanta cock#]

That team quit last night. That happens when the team loses confidence in leadership. The *insiders* on both On3 and 247 were dead wrong about this team. Tells me they aren’t paying attention and are just buying what Beamer is selling. He is not a good coach and, unlike Dabo, has failed (or refuses) to surround himself with exemplary coordinators and assistants, especially on offense for the 5th year in a row.

 

[Cobie]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

You seem almost excited at the notion, Botman?

In case you've just getting caught up on USC football. we can't have our star QB go down and expect to fair well against a solid team that also has prolific QB and a bunch of senior players.

If Pavia had gone down instead of Sellers, the score would have likely been reversed.

For the time being, double down on your Depends and let's see how the rest of the season plays out first.

 

[atlanta cock#]

You seem almost excited at the notion, Botman?

In case you've just getting caught up on USC football. we can't have our star QB go down and expect to fair well against a solid team that also has prolific QB and a bunch of senior players.

If Pavia had gone down instead of Sellers, the score would have likely been reversed.

Double down on your Depends and let's see how the rest of the season plays out first.

Dude

 

[Cobie]

I seem to recall Spurrier losing to Vandy in back-to-back seasons (without the loss of his QB during the game) and neither of those teams were as good as the one that we played last night.

Wonder how all of the fragile and fraudulent BOTs on this thread managed through it?

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

That team quit last night. That happens when the team loses confidence in leadership. The *insiders* on both On3 and 247 were dead wrong about this team. Tells me they aren’t paying attention and are just buying what Beamer is selling. He is not a good coach and, unlike Dabo, has failed (or refuses) to surround himself with exemplary coordinators and assistants, especially on offense for the 5th year in a row.

I think he can't hire a really good OC because a really good OC would consider himself more qualified to be the head coach than the head coach. Real coaches think Beamer is a joke.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

If we go 3-9, you coming back to eat some crow?

 

[MUTiger91]

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing.

Admittedly I was flipping back and forth between your game and aTm v. the Leprechauns, so I didn't get the full picture. Having said that, I'm not sure how you make a judgment about your team with Sellers when you were without him for much of that game. As a Mizzou fan, I liked watching Vandy find the easy runs against you, because if those are there, our offense will be difficult to stop. At the same time, ku did some damage against us in the passing game.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

The biggest weakness as a coach is the inability to make changes due to emotions.
Beamer has got it BIGLY.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

I guess you are looking at Citadel & Clumpsin' right as our two wins to make 4 wins? Clumpsin' is very iffy.

We don't play the Citadel this season.

If you want to trash me, trash me. Keep the receipts until the end of the season.

I see absolutely zero reason to believe we should think we can win a conference game outside of Kentucky.

I 100% agree with you.

 

[IPOC]

We don't play the Citadel this season.

I 100% agree with you.

We don't play the Citadel this season.

I 100% agree with you.

Well heck I meant Coastal Carolina.My bad.

 

[BeamerBall90]

Three games in is too early for me to fully judge. But to your point, if judging on our 3 games, there’s nothing to be excited about. We better show some improvement this week especially since it looks like we will have Sellers back. I think I saw that Missouri is top 5 in offense and defense. It’s time to show up and play well.

 

[Piscis]

I think Carolina wins against Missouri. This is the classic situation where Beamer wins a game he shouldn't and, suddenly, the gamecocks are back baby!!

After that, who knows?

 

[92Pony]

I think Carolina wins against Missouri. This is the classic situation where Beamer wins a game he shouldn't and, suddenly, the gamecocks are back baby!!

After that, who knows?

It wouldn't shock me..... well, maybe just a little.

 

[Gradstudent]

We heard the same stuff after the Old Dominion game last year, and it did not age well, but who knows, if you declare the season is over enough times, your bound to eventually be correct.

 

[Lurker123]

We heard the same stuff after the Old Dominion game last year, and it did not age well, but who knows, if you declare the season is over enough times, your bound to eventually be correct.

True.

In the past two years its proven to be a 50-50 scenario.

 

[muscleknight]

Dabo's high class high paid OC isn't burning up the field either.

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

You must be a hoot at parties.

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

If you want to trash me, trash me. Keep the receipts until the end of the season.

I see absolutely zero reason to believe we should think we can win a conference game outside of Kentucky.

If you are doing this just so you can pat yourself on the back, maybe find another team or other things to do with your time. Honestly being a pessimist and constant source of negativity is not a good quality in anyone.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

We're not going to beat Kentucky. 3-9 - And you're right. Beamer did this to himself with awful hires

 

[Evilchicken]

This really isn’t astrophysics…we aren’t very good. We lost studs on Defense…lost a reliable RB…and lost a serviceable OC, who was dialed in with Sellers. The preseason ranking was a ******* joke, which I never took seriously given our personnel losses. Now, Sellers is a beast, with loads of talent, and Beamer is not a bad coach (stop with that nonsense), and Harbor is on the verge of exploding. The problem is…too many gaps in coaching and talent on this team to field a cohesive and effective winning team. Now you wanna be depressed? Next year is looking grim, not gonna lie. I say 5-7 with a few surprises

 

[Piscis]

This really isn’t astrophysics…we aren’t very good. We lost studs on Defense…lost a reliable RB…and lost a serviceable OC, who was dialed in with Sellers. The preseason ranking was a ******* joke, which I never took seriously given our personnel losses. Now, Sellers is a beast, with loads of talent, and Beamer is not a bad coach (stop with that nonsense), and Harbor is on the verge of exploding. The problem is…too many gaps in coaching and talent on this team to field a cohesive and effective winning team. Now you wanna be depressed? Next year is looking grim, not gonna lie. I say 5-7 with a few surprises

If Sellers can stay healthy, which is not a given considering how he is pretty much the entire offense and running the ball is his strong suite, and Harbor can become a legit threat, there is a chance of sneaking up on a couple teams and winning games we shouldn't. The challenge with Harbor is that SEC teams generally have very good DBs and if an offense only has one serious receiving threat, a DC can make sure he doubles that receiver with a safety over the top on every play.

Beamer is decent but he isn't a next level coach. He gives off that "everybody's friend" vibe and really wears his emotions on his sleeve, which is great for PR but generally aren't traits the top coaches have.

 

[Evilchicken]

If Sellers can stay healthy, which is not a given considering how he is pretty much the entire offense and running the ball is his strong suite, and Harbor can become a legit threat, there is a chance of sneaking up on a couple teams and winning games we shouldn't. The challenge with Harbor is that SEC teams generally have very good DBs and if an offense only has one serious receiving threat, a DC can make sure he doubles that receiver with a safety over the top on every play.

Beamer is decent but he isn't a next level coach. He gives off that "everybody's friend" vibe and really wears his emotions on his sleeve, which is great for PR but generally aren't traits the top coaches have.

The main problem with Harbor is ******* Shula! Like dude…take more chances! Sellers has a great arm w above average accuracy. Spread the field lame-o. And our OL…good grief. What a clown show.
Listen, I like Beamer. Amazing ambassador for this school. You don’t go 9 wins with an SEC schedule if you can’t coach. But no, I’m not seeing a genius for sure.

 

[Piscis]

The main problem with Harbor is ******* Shula! Like dude…take more chances! Sellers has a great arm w above average accuracy. Spread the field lame-o. And our OL…good grief. What a clown show.
Listen, I like Beamer. Amazing ambassador for this school. You don’t go 9 wins with an SEC schedule if you can’t coach. But no, I’m not seeing a genius for sure.

Beamer is very likeable. He won 9 games last season sort of with smoke and mirrors. Clemson was an actual quality win but he also beat some teams that were names more than good teams (OK and aTm specifically) and the Missouri win was a minor mircacle. This year, OK and aTm look much better and Missouri is better. I'm not saying he can't beat any of them but I doubt he beats all three and Clemson. I have enjoyed Clemson's struggles as much as anyone this year but they are not a bad team and they will be a tough game come November.

The problem with spreading the field is that the qb needs time for the routes to develop and the OL can't give Sellers time. He can't stand in the pocket and go through progressions when he is scrambling. Harbor is great in a one on one jump ball situation but, like I said before, DCs are going to do all they can to keep him doubled up. You also need a credible running threat to set up a pass game that works. We don't have that.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Beamer is very likeable. He won 9 games last season sort of with smoke and mirrors. Clemson was an actual quality win but he also beat some teams that were names more than good teams (OK and aTm specifically) and the Missouri win was a minor mircacle. This year, OK and aTm look much better and Missouri is better. I'm not saying he can't beat any of them but I doubt he beats all three and Clemson. I have enjoyed Clemson's struggles as much as anyone this year but they are not a bad team and they will be a tough game come November.

The problem with spreading the field is that the qb needs time for the routes to develop and the OL can't give Sellers time. He can't stand in the pocket and go through progressions when he is scrambling. Harbor is great in a one on one jump ball situation but, like I said before, DCs are going to do all they can to keep him doubled up. You also need a credible running threat to set up a pass game that works. We don't have that.

Everything you said really just comes back on Shane.

 

[SouthernBelly]

We heard the same stuff after the Old Dominion game last year, and it did not age well, but who knows, if you declare the season is over enough times, your bound to eventually be correct.

Bro you know the history. It’s little bit more than eventually.

 

[Patriot321]

We will finish with a final record of 4–8 (1-7). And I would not be stunned if that final record is 3–9.

We are not beating Missouri, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, A&M, or LSU. That’s a sure thing. I think Kentucky will be a tossup and our shot at a conference win. We will probably beat Coastal…but I wouldn’t put money on anything right now. Clemson, I am simply calling a loss based on history.

When all is said and done Beemer will have nobody to blame but himself. He doggedly refused to replace a horrible OL coach. Objectively awful. Then when our mediocre OC left, he had a chance at an upgrade but instead he picked a very well traveled coach who has never really distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator. There were plenty of options he could have gone with that made a lot more sense. But he just went with the easy hire for whoever he could get without having to leave the building.

Of course, the reality is maybe this just isn’t a very good team. Maybe Sellers really wasn’t all that great. Like most things, there are multiple reasons. Whatever those reasons are, it’s obvious this team is not very good.

We once again blame everything on coaches, we've had what seems like a half a dozen OL and OC coaches since Beamer got here, and they always get the blame. At some point you have to blame the players, they don't execute, why? Maybe because they don't have the quickness/speed/strength, whatever to get the job done, or are just plain missing assignments. If you want to blame the OC for not changing the play calling or adding a back or whatever, I get it, but it really hasn't been good since maybe Spurrier's days. So if you want to blame recruiting, I'm good with that too, but NIL is not our friend as far as getting top players, we are mostly getting leftovers.
With all our losses on D and running backs and receivers, and knowing that Sellers wouldn't be a secret this year, I got tired of arguing with these posters with the garnet colored glasses. So many screaming we would win10 games and I said or they could easily just win 4, but of course I was gang tackled . Also, Sellers has not had a good year, he has never shown that he is going to take the next step with his passing or reading D's, so there's that. But tomorrow will define the season one way or the other.

 

[Pinkgimp]

Halftime adjustments…do they ever make any?

 

[18IsTheMan]

We heard the same stuff after the Old Dominion game last year, and it did not age well, but who knows, if you declare the season is over enough times, your bound to eventually be correct.

Admittedly, what transpired last year was extremely anomalous. The most obvious explanation is usually the correct one. The most obvious explanation is that our offense sucks and will keep us from winning many games.

 

[cocean]

No sympathy for a coach makin 7 mil a year. I would b protecting my living by surrounding myself w smarter people

 

[cocean]

Excuse me, 8 mil.

 

[LonesomeRooster]

We once again blame everything on coaches, we've had what seems like a half a dozen OL and OC coaches since Beamer got here, and they always get the blame. At some point you have to blame the players, they don't execute, why? Maybe because they don't have the quickness/speed/strength, whatever to get the job done, or are just plain missing assignments. If you want to blame the OC for not changing the play calling or adding a back or whatever, I get it, but it really hasn't been good since maybe Spurrier's days. So if you want to blame recruiting, I'm good with that too, but NIL is not our friend as far as getting top players, we are mostly getting leftovers.
With all our losses on D and running backs and receivers, and knowing that Sellers wouldn't be a secret this year, I got tired of arguing with these posters with the garnet colored glasses. So many screaming we would win10 games and I said or they could easily just win 4, but of course I was gang tackled . Also, Sellers has not had a good year, he has never shown that he is going to take the next step with his passing or reading D's, so there's that. But tomorrow will define the season one way or the other.

On paper we have talent on the OL, but they are not executing. Whether that is because they are over-rated, the scheme, conditioning or on-field coaching I have no clue. We pay Beamer a bunch of money to figure these things out. He also has his dad to talk to and get advice. I think he will find the right combination eventually, but if he goes 3-9 or 4-8 this year he will likely have to hire a new offensive staff. That will set us back another year or two and might hurt us in the portal.