40,000+ Americans died.....

ALL4UK

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That’s your opinion but my point is we chose to do much more dangerous things in a daily basis. It’s a matter of education and perspective.

CHOSE being the operative word. My 92 y/o grandfather can chose not to drive, but he can’t chose whether or not Covid-19 spreads like wild fire. The comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
 

KYFOSSIL

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For many elderly people, they have a 1 in 7 chance of dying if they contract the coronavirus from someone else. For those that don’t die, many will still require a lengthy stay in the ICU.

If there were some type of short term phenomenon that suddenly caused a large group of other drivers to start crashing into others, and you were one of many who had a 1 in 7 chance of dying in these wrecks, would you think that some type of aggressive, short term intervention might be worth considering?
I would be more cautious and eventually we have airbags and a seatbelt law.
It’s not at all. If 70 percent of the US population gets infected, you’ll have millions of deaths and the hospitals of the country will be so overwhelmed that there will be further unnecessary deaths.
It’s not at all. If 70 percent of the US population gets infected, you’ll have millions of deaths and the hospitals of the country will be so overwhelmed that there will be
CHOSE being the operative word. My 92 y/o grandfather can chose not to drive, but he can’t chose whether or not Covid-19 spreads like wild fire. The comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
no but he can chose to stay away from crowds and take precautions.
 
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Everyone needs to drive batshit crazy, drunk and texting for the next two weeks. We will show this virus who’s boss
Nominated for a “Postie”

 

bbncal02

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yeah and so what. We don't have a better medical system than they do? China lives under communist rule and they're eating rats to survive thats what started this mess. Italy isnt known for their healthcare and its roughly the size of what? The state of Michigan?? 99.9999 percent of people are going to be just fine stop listening to the media they are ambulance chasers and have done nothing but lie their asses off for two decades. They are the boy that cried wolf if they are panicking you can rest assured that things are getting better

Not listening to media. Listening to DOCTORS and MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.
 
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morgousky

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The best comparison is gun confiscation / control.

The CDC estimates self defense by gun saves 500K low end to 3 million high end from violent criminal acts.

taking out suicide, there’s barely 10K deaths by gun and its 98% criminals who don’t have rights anyway.

Yet many of the same people saying you’re an idiot and if it saves one life quarantine is worth it, are the same ones who want those 500K-3 million to risk their life without their weapon.
 

JulesWinfield89

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Not listening to media. Listening to DOCTORS and MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.

And who do you think they answer to? Who's giving these doctors and professionals a forum to give you information? They're not gonna give anyone a voice who doesn't push their narrative it's no different with the climate change racket

does anyone know one person who has this virus and how serious it is that can give us some information?
 

bbncal02

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And who do you think they answer to? Who's giving these doctors and professionals a forum to give you information? They're not gonna give anyone a voice who doesn't push their narrative it's no different with the climate change racket


You’re right. It’s all a giant conspiracy.
 
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TankedCat

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whether there's people at march madness or not isn't gonna affect the spread of this one bit. Let's say they had the tournament as usual with people in the building? How many people are gonna contract the virus as a result of being at the game. I would be surprised if there was one incident for the entire thing. It's nothing but a pathetic panic that frankly makes us look weak as a society

it's a half measure that makes absolutely zero difference in the grand scheme of things

that is scarey thinking.
 

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Really in what way? My wife died from cancer as have millions. It’s being fought and the causes addressed. What I am seeing now is the same rampaging fear of HIV and AIDS when it first appear. Yes the flu is dangerous and my heart and prayers go out to those that have contracted it but I wish level heads would prevail and put it in perspective.

Yeah, I remember the HIV fear and the way the healthcare industry went nuts. I had to attend numerous seminars and heard all these dire predictions that by the year 2000, over 40% of the nation's population would have AIDS. I was actually blasted for trying to bring some common sense into the conversation. Hopefully, this will all blow over if we all just take normal precautions.
 

KYFOSSIL

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No offense, but you just don’t get it.
Yes sir I do get it and I haven’t said this before but I am a critical care director And we have a suspected case on my floor and have had all the briefings and taking precautions just like we did for N1 H1 and other out breaks, and we are taking all the precautions but we are also educating staff, patients and visitors while trying to present an environment of calm precaution.
 
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HagginHall1999

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Cancelling Civi events and closing schools is a panic type reaction.

Sorry, I want the tournament to have fans as bad as anyone but we need to get this **** locked down. The last thing we need in this country is a freaking illness that could wreak havoc on the elderly and obese. Thank god it apparently doesn't do so to kids...

I am not panicking, but I am also not taking it with a grain of salt any longer. Concerned for my parents and other elderly family members.
 

bbncal02

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Yeah, I remember the HIV fear and the way the healthcare industry went nuts. I had to attend numerous seminars and heard all these dire predictions that by the year 2000, over 40% of the nation's population would have AIDS. I was actually blasted for trying to bring some common sense into the conversation. Hopefully, this will all blow over if we all just take normal precautions.


Exactly. Don’t be stupid. Like “I’m getting on a plane to Italy.” Or “One a cruise with a. Bunch of people I can’t get away from!”

Be aware. Be cautious. WASH YOUR FREAKING HANDS. And practice overall good hygiene.
And of course if you are a person of faith, a good word to the Father wouldn’t hurt either.
 

OHIO COLONEL

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Why aren't these politicians (Ohio Gov) also shutting down all the WalMarts, Targets, Krogers, Sams Club, Kohl's, Meijer's, Costco's, McDonalds, etc, etc,? Probably more people several times over visit all these type stores in a day in Dayton and Cleveland than will be at the game. Not a whole lot different than sitting in an arena...walk by someone who coughs/sneezes, someone wipes their nose then picks up the canned good before you put it in your cart, and so forth.
 
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It's not if you have no vaccine, droplet contagion, and a fatality rate of 4%.

Notice that nobody trained in medicine is describing those things as overreactions.

The armchair quarterbacks are all alone on this one.

What we're seeing are a bunch of overgrown children stamping their feet yelling "don't tell me what to do!" at the thought of being somewhat inconvenienced.
 

ALL4UK

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Yes sir I do get it and I haven’t said this before but I am a critical care director And we have a suspected case on my floor and have had all the briefings and taking precautions just like we did for N1 H1 and other out breaks, and we are taking all the precautions but we are also educating staff, patients and visitors while trying to present an environment of calm precaution.

I am also a health care professional and am having similar experiences with a couple of cases. I will respect your opinion, but with all due respect I disagree. We have to take as many precautions as possible to slow the spread of Covid-19. This buys us time to develop a vaccine and hopefully if it is heat sensitive we can minimize the spreading until we have warmer temperatures. Just my educated opinion.
 

thecatsareback#8

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Fair this doesn’t correlate to driving accidents but how about obesity? 300k deaths a year from it in the US alone but we’re still serving ice cream at Rupp. This is a **** overreaction and we all know it
 

ALL4UK

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Sorry, I want the tournament to have fans as bad as anyone but we need to get this **** locked down. The last thing we need in this country is a freaking illness that could wreak havoc on the elderly and obese. Thank god it apparently doesn't do so to kids...

I am not panicking, but I am also not taking it with a grain of salt any longer. Concerned for my parents and other elderly family members.

I couldn’t have stated it better my self.
 

kl40504_rivals

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CHOSE being the operative word. My 92 y/o grandfather can chose not to drive, but he can’t chose whether or not Covid-19 spreads like wild fire. The comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
But he could be in a car with you or some other relative and get killed
 

bbncal02

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Fair this doesn’t correlate to driving accidents but how about obesity? 300k deaths a year from it in the US alone but we’re still serving ice cream at Rupp. This is a **** overreaction and we all know it

lol. Obesity isn’t contagious.
 

HagginHall1999

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Fair this doesn’t correlate to driving accidents but how about obesity? 300k deaths a year from it in the US alone but we’re still serving ice cream at Rupp. This is a **** overreaction and we all know it

Ever heard of better safe than sorry? Btw, being obese is a lifestyle choice to an extent. Getting a disease (some), virus (most) or being old is not. Educate yourself on the topic. Doesn't mean you are panicking, means you are being realistic.
 
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Some of you clearly just aren't aware of the world beyond this country because "oh it's only killed 30 people" ignores that we've seen what this virus can do in the absence of containment measures. If left to spread unchecked, so many people get sick at once that hospitals run out of beds, sick people can't get in and get treated, and it ends up way way worse than it would be if we slow it down so that everybody who gets sick can get treatment.
 

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Again I apologized if I offended anyone but We had the same fear with the Ebola virus, SARS, AIDs and many other out breaks. Most of these events being cancelled are mainly targeted to a healthier younger population.
Is your point that those fears aren't valid because the precautions were effective in those cases? That's a backwards argument.

Is your point that they never turn out to be deadly? HIV has killed over 30 million people.

Ebola is maybe the worst disease in the world. If the "non-*****" posters on here ran our public health efforts, it would've found its way to NYC and destroyed the global economy by causing millions to die by expelling blood through every orifice.

The only reason it didn't is because doctors do what you would probably describe as "panic" when they hear Ebola is even within 500 miles. There are literally 4 hospitals in the US where they're allowed to treat it, because they need special rooms where you operate with your full scrubs and PPE through a separate protective covering separating you and the patient all inside of a vacuum chamber. That's the degree of contagion, the death rate is 50%, and you die, again, by bleeding violently out of your *** and everywhere else.

Those are just really bad examples.
 
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sk73

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whether there's people at march madness or not isn't gonna affect the spread of this one bit. Let's say they had the tournament as usual with people in the building? How many people are gonna contract the virus as a result of being at the game. I would be surprised if there was one incident for the entire thing. It's nothing but a pathetic panic that frankly makes us look weak as a society

it's a half measure that makes absolutely zero difference in the grand scheme of things
You need to read more and have more info before making such bold statements. You can't take that silly comment back now.
 

KYFOSSIL

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Is your point that those fears aren't valid because the precautions were effective in those cases? That's a backwards argument.

Is your point that they never turn out to be deadly? HIV has killed over 30 million people.

Ebola is maybe the worst disease in the world. If the "non-*****" posters on here ran our public health efforts, it would've found its way to NYC and destroyed the global economy by causing millions to die by expelling blood through every orifice.

The only reason it didn't is because doctors do what you would probably describe as "panic" when they hear Ebola is even within 500 miles.

Those are just really bad examples.
No there not because we didn’t shut everything down no panic with the stock market. They handled those events with logic, education and sound precautions.
 

HagginHall1999

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Why aren't these politicians (Ohio Gov) also shutting down all the WalMarts, Targets, Krogers, Sams Club, Kohl's, Meijer's, Costco's, McDonalds, etc, etc,? Probably more people several times over visit all these type stores in a day in Dayton and Cleveland than will be at the game. Not a whole lot different than sitting in an arena...walk by someone who coughs/sneezes, someone wipes their nose then picks up the canned good before you put it in your cart, and so forth.

It may happen.
 

SuporChin

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Again I apologized if I offended anyone but We had the same fear with the Ebola virus, SARS, AIDs and many other out breaks. Most of these events being cancelled are mainly targeted to a healthier younger population.
Yeah, I remember the HIV fear and the way the healthcare industry went nuts. I had to attend numerous seminars and heard all these dire predictions that by the year 2000, over 40% of the nation's population would have AIDS. I was actually blasted for trying to bring some common sense into the conversation. Hopefully, this will all blow over if we all just take normal precautions.

You should listen to stories of people from communities who were the hardest hit by AIDS. They had friends dying around them and no one knew what was going on. Everyone seemed healthy and months later everyone is next to death. It's terrifying. Over 20 Million people have died from AIDS complications since then.
 

kybassfan

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Good lord. So much histrionics. This has almost nothing to do with death rate and a hell of a lot to do with politics and liability. To a lesser extent but probably more realistic, there is a danger of saturating the medical system for a period of time. Do that and you affect anyone using that system, not just virus victims.

Just follow recommendations. Wash your damn hands. Leave the macho BS at home. Don’t panic and this will go as good as it can go. People are knee jerking on both ends of the curve.
 

Backer cutter

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“The best comparison is gun confiscation/control”- yeah David took out Goliath with a rock. Where’s all the rock haters? It’s a lethal weapon. People look for excuses to blame anyone else for their own stupidity. That’s gonna be the end all, if and when. And when if wins, when becomes apparent, if becomes obsolete. If.
 

HoldMyBeer

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Really in what way? My wife died from cancer as have millions. It’s being fought and the causes addressed. What I am seeing now is the same rampaging fear of HIV and AIDS when it first appear. Yes the flu is dangerous and my heart and prayers go out to those that have contracted it but I wish level heads would prevail and put it in perspective.
32 million people have died from aids. 32 MILLION. If experts didn't "panic" and get info out to the world then that number would be atleast doubled.

Driving a freaking automobile is nearly a necessity in life, going to a sporting event is NOT and is not worth jeopardizing your life for.
 
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