4th and goal at the two
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I would have punted and played for field position!
i like stoops, im glad he is succeeding. but that was a bad decision. if that was game where points were tight, maybe you kick there. it wasnt, defense couldnt stop anything. it was a bad decision, plain and simple.
Kentucky football regardless of coach, when we are playing a team like UGA, UT, UF, Bama, LSU, etc... we should be playing riverboat gambler style the entire time especially on the road. You kick a fg there against Vandy, Miss St, Mizzou, Austin Peay, whatever, teams you think the points and defense will suffice for.
yes, but thats comparing apples to fax machines. thats two totally different games. UGA kicked FG's because they had a defense that could stop us, and we had a defense that could stop them. UGA had 2 td's. tennessee had 7 td's. i understand having zero confidence in our ability to punch it in, but if we are going to stay in a game like that we have to try.
Here was the real problem...Asafo Adjei got blow off the GD ball three yards on third down or Benny walks in untouched.
How TF do you get blown off the ball three yards in a goal line situation? No effort.
This isn't the first time either he has produced that way in the red zone. Time for him to take a seat until he can mature and understand what it takes to win.
How TF do you get blown off the ball three yards in a goal line situation? No effort.
This isn't the first time either he has produced that way in the red zone. Time for him to take a seat until he can mature and understand what it takes to win.
I tend to agree with Crankdamustard....but some aren't allowed to have and opinion on these boards or they get banned.......so I'll leave it at that.
I was upset with that call. I actually stood up and flipped a bird to the TV. I don't think I've ever done that.
Georgia wasn't a big underdog like UK was to UT. I'm also pretty certain if Georgia was on the 1 and 1/2 yard line, they would of gone for it. Stoops has got to get aggressive in these types of games.
I don't understand why you don't just stay in the wildcat there. It got us to the 1 yard line, why not go ahead and let Benny run it in? I know Benny walks in if GAA doesn't get absolutely blown up; but point being the week before the wildcat gets us inside the 10 and we run wildcat 2x's for no gains; fast forward and this week we are on the 1 and Gran decides to change it up? UT hadn't stopped the wildcat for less than 2 yards all game, I just don't get it. NO way to go back and replay that, but I would bet the house had we ran wildcat GAA doesn't get blown up and we score 7. It's a different mentality with all involved when we are in wildcat with Snell.
Should have went. We were on the two yard line. Snell was gassed. Give it too Boom! Let's players know we were there to win.
Now that's the absolute weakest justification I have ever heard a HC give with regard to a play call!!! Reminds me of some commentary that the guy I voted for in the recent election would sometimes use! If things are going well - shoot yourself in the foot!
The score was 14-10 at the time. It was early in the second quarter. Game was close AT THE TIME. Does everyone forget that?
Go for it there and don't get it it's still 14-10 after a great drive and our fans would be going ballistic.
You take the points there.
I agree. When you are a 14 point road 'dawg you gotta take some chances but with the score that close and that early in the game you put your frustration aside and take the 3.
Peace
We should never be playing to keep the score close or to keep the score manageable! Your offensive thrust should be to win, not take the non-aggressive approach (safe approach)! It would have been different if we have demonstrated that Benny can advance the ball only on some occasions, (he is too inconsistent) to take the risk!
If he would have gone for and they stop us for no points. Everyone that's complaining right now would be saying he deserves to be fired. That with the game that close you take the points. Myself I agree he should have went for it but I understand his thinking. Also he probably didn't expect the heart and soul of the defense to be injured and not return. Losing Jones makes this defense 10 Times worse.
The bad decision was to go away from wildcat on 2 and goal from 1 yard line. If anything we stay in Wildcat too much vs. good teams when we are in regular down and distances....but if it's 3rd/4th and one...we should resign ourselves to Benny Snell in the Wildcat formation.
Most of the time I would agree. But when you're playing UT or Florida, and your jersey says Kentucky, you go for the TD every damn time. I've seen the show where you play it safe for 40+ years, and it never works. Go for the touchdown.
Agreed - I thought we ran wildcat on 1st and 2nd to get to the 1 yard line...then on 3rd went with the handoff from Johnson, then kicked on 4th.
Whatever the case, I agree with you 100%. Wildcat at the end of the UGA game on 2nd and goal from the 8 was frustrating, the wildcat from the 1 yard line vs UT would've been a welcome sight.
If you have 4th and goal from the 2, on two occasions, and both times, you kick the field goal:
You will have 6 pts
If you go for the TD both times, and are successful once, and fail the other,:
You will have 7 pts
But, here is what happens:
Fans will say that you mad the right decision when you went for it, but should have kicked the FG the time you didn't score the TD.
So, fans will expect you to have 10 pts.
The bigger problem is that the offense is slowing down in the red zone. It would be nice if we could score before getting for 4 and G at the 2.
You will have 6 pts
If you go for the TD both times, and are successful once, and fail the other,:
You will have 7 pts
But, here is what happens:
Fans will say that you mad the right decision when you went for it, but should have kicked the FG the time you didn't score the TD.
So, fans will expect you to have 10 pts.
The bigger problem is that the offense is slowing down in the red zone. It would be nice if we could score before getting for 4 and G at the 2.
Normally I would agree, but we needed to grow a pair of balls there at that point and it was the perfect time to do it. Could've boosted momentum if we had scored and if we didn't score, we would have UT pinned and a chance to let our defense boost the momentum.
Yeah, I disagree.
Late in the game, maybe you go for it. Early in the 2nd quarter when the outcome of the game is still very much in doubt, you take the points.
And lose.
For the record, I completely understand why you disagree. But I've just seen the same ol' song and dance for far too long. When you are Kentucky, if you do not play aggressively against SEC East traditional powers for 60 minutes, it will bite you in the ***. When we settled for the field goal to tie the game against Georgia with under 2 to play, I said out loud we're going to lose by 3, and we did. I've seen it over and over and over and over and over and over.
We did lose. But what if we didn't get the TD by going for it?
I'd imagine our irrational fans would have jumped the ship at an even higher level.
I'm sure you're right.....but at least I would have been happy.
I'd rather lose playing to win than lose playing not to lose.
And I'm fully aware that the previous sentence was grammatically questionable.