Yes, I am.No you’re not.
Are they overpaid for what they do? Yes, but they should take ever penny they can get.
Is their union awesome and am I jealous of that? Yes
Is their marketing amazing? Yes
Yes, I am.No you’re not.
In order to put a fire out, you need to enter the burning house. Even if you don't have to save anyone. Would you say that is inherently dangerous?No, you are inferring that.
No, not really. Would you?In order to put a fire out, you need to enter the burning house. Even if you don't have to save anyone. Would you say that is inherently dangerous?
Yes. Friends with some volunteer firefighters. Dangerous for sure. Imagine climbing onto an icy roof during a blizzard to put out a chimney fire. At night.No, not really. Would you?
You don't run in to an empty house and jump on the flame.
So, your friends do it...for free?Yes. Friends with some volunteer firefighters. Dangerous for sure. Imagine climbing onto an icy roof during a blizzard to put out a chimney fire. At night.
Apartments on fire. Fires near propane tanks. On and on. In addition to all the fire stuff they are often first on the scene of wrecks. The list goes on.
I'm sure there have been politicians over the years that skimped on the number of firefighters. Society as a whole has agreed it's necessary.
Yep. For a retirement and small annual salary. Are you volunteering to climb into a burning building across town for someone you don't know? How just saving your own burning house? You have the knowledge, skills and equipment for that?So, your friends do it...for free?
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Yes and yes.Yep. For a retirement and small annual salary. Are you volunteering to climb into a burning building across town for someone you don't know? How just saving your own burning house? You have the knowledge, skills and equipment for that?
There are a lot of bad teachers because there is almost no training, and the filters are non-existent. It is a good paying job for somebody who can barely graduate college and doesn't have any other decent skills. And teaching is mostly about kid management, not actually teaching content. Keeping kids happy and the appearance of doing things that look like school. Obviously putting 2000-3000 teenagers in a building with 100 adults for 8 hours a day, 30 kids a room with 1 adult, with no intelligence of placement is a recipe for management not teaching. If we stuck 30 dudes from the free board in a room with a moderator, and made them sit and be quiet and listen, there would be no teaching...but a good teacher would do a lot of management until the bell rang. We learned during the pandemic that nobody cares about learning, nobody wants to pay for it but we do care about child care, and we want our kids babysat so we can go to work and make money to buy stuff. We still want our doctors and lawyers to know stuff but they have to learn that somewhere else.
Still whining.Yes and yes.
Wait, volunteer firemen get paid????? VOLUNTEER?
Yes, I told you I am a female elementary teacher and that we are the biggest whiners.Still whining.
Some I guess. $700/year or something like that. Well what are you waiting for? Better go sign up for that sweet gig.Yes and yes.
Wait, volunteer firemen get paid????? VOLUNTEER?
Wait, you guess or you know?Some I guess. $700/year or something like that. Well what are you waiting for? Better go sign up for that sweet gig.
You are still whining. And a full time firefighter makes a below average wage. You saying they are overpaid is completely ignorant.Yes, I told you I am a female elementary teacher and that we are the biggest whiners.
Didn't you think volunteer meant free?
So they make under avg wage???You are still whining. And a full time firefighter makes a below average wage. You saying they are overpaid is completely ignorant.
Min wage and average salary are the same? Now you are just showing more ignorance just to continue with the whining. As for volunteer firefighter they are not paid a w-2 wage. They may receive stipends for training and certain calls depending on the circumstance.So they make under min wage???
If that is the case, I 100% recant my statement.
Nope, I corrected that.Min wage and average salary are the same? Now you are just showing more ignorance just to continue with the whining. As for volunteer firefighter they are not paid a w-2 wage. They may receive stipends for training and certain calls depending on the circumstance.
Ross Tucker did the Iowa-Nebraska game color commentary and mentioned it on his podcast. As part of the job, he has conversations with key players and coaches the day before the game.How do you know what the herkys paid?
I guess it depends on the person, maybe firefighters like getting paid more than police and sleeping with other guys thru the night.So they make under avg wage???
If that is the case, I 100% recant my statement.
Wait...tell me more about the sleeping with other guys partI guess it depends on the person, maybe firefighters like getting paid more than police and sleeping with other guys thru the night.
where police will take a pay cut and rather pull over cars of insane people in the middle of the night?
idk
You’re a whiny entitled school teacher. Stay in your safe little taxpayer funded lane.No, not really. Would you?
You don't run in to an empty house and jump on the flame.
They take every precaution in the world first.
I get it, you saw Backdraft, but that is not what it is like. Human life is first, structure is second. If there is a threat of getting hurt, they wait.
idk,Wait...tell me more about the sleeping with other guys part![]()
Just like all "civil servants", right?You’re a whiny entitled school teacher. Stay in your safe little taxpayer funded lane.
To me, the only ones who have actually ran into a burning building or some other act to save a life, is a hero. Someone who holds a hose while no one is in danger, is hardly a hero.I didn't "fall" for anything. They are hero's. They don't have to market anything..when they run into a burning building to save people, that kind of speaks for itself...and I hope they never have to lift another finger, I hope all they have to do is wash trucks, because that means **** ain't burning to the ground.
You said it better than I did.To me, the only ones who have actually ran into a burning building or some other act to save a life, is a hero. Someone who holds a hose while no one is in danger, is hardly a hero.
Also, heroes don't need sweet benefits to stay on the job.
Now I'm not saying they dont deserve their pay, but lets not label all these guys are "heroes".
Shoot, if anything, the small town volunteer firefighters are more of heroes than many of these full timers.
On the morning of 911, 343 NYFD personnel eitherNo, not really. Would you?
You don't run in to an empty house and jump on the flame.
They take every precaution in the world first.
I get it, you saw Backdraft, but that is not what it is like. Human life is first, structure is second. If there is a threat of getting hurt, they wait.
I think the argument is, are they actually heroes?Could you be a fireman? People like you don’t understand the concept. They are there for the emergencies. You want them to have nothing to do. When they have nothing to do life is good, but when they swing into action bad things are happening and they are ready and willing to go into the fire or trying to pry someone out of their car or perform cpr til doctors can take over. Check out what insurance costs with no firemen available. When you have value you drive the market.
idk, seems like it would answer a run pass qb question fast..but then lateef would probably bolt leaving depth a issueIf we have a rich Nebraska guy who would drop $5 million a year on a QB, that person needs a psychiatric exam, STAT.
On the morning of (insert the last 20 school shootings) not one teacher woke up that morning thinking they were going to have to give their life or hide their students to save those kids lives...they just went.On the morning of 911, 343 NYFD personnel either
woke up at their firehouse or in their home ready to start just a typical September day. Then the first plane hit. They knew the risk, but they also knew no one else would try, so they did. Not one of them I suspect was sure glad they had a strong union at that point. They just went.
I don't think the only options are;**** those Army soldiers and Marines. They spend 4 years training, never see a single battle. What a bunch of non heros. Signing up to protect this country when it isn't needed 99% of the time.
I have 3 friends that are omaha FFI think the argument is, are they actually heroes?
The dudes during 9/11.... 100%
Most in Omaha & Lincoln? Unlikely.
I had two uncles that served "in nam"I don't think the only options are;
1) Heroes or
2) **** those guys.
Oh, the teachers unions have definitely tried. Just no one is buying it except during Covid.I wish the teachers union did that good of a job, I wish they fought to tell the public about how hard our job is and how often we get shot at (there are more school shootings each year than there are firestation shootings).
The problem, they gave up the right to strike AND...covid was their "in" but parents quickly found out how much they actually hated their ******* kids being at home 24/7Oh, the teachers unions have definitely tried. Just no one is buying it except during Covid.
Only the ones who wanted to teach sex ed, DEI crap and other inappropriate subjects to 3rd graders.And teachers went from being "heroes" before and during Covid to the "enemy" after covid.
Hahaha, I forgot about your take on this. I'm pretty sure we've already gone round-and-round on this topic..... but parents quickly found out how much they actually hated their ******* kids being at home 24/7
Parents LOVED the teachers in march and HATED those same teachers in August! haHahaha, I forgot about your take on this. I'm pretty sure we've already gone round-and-round on this topic.
Can only speak for one town. No idea on the rest. On call twice a month? As in old man Wilson's ranch is on fire on a random Wednesday evening and you weren't expected to show up if you weren't on call?Wait, you guess or you know?
I did it, for 2 years, we did not get paid for it. I was "on call" twice a month.
It was in central NE, in a town of about 2000
Parents LOVED the teachers in march and HATED those same teachers in August! ha
Only the ones who wanted to teach sex ed, DEI crap and other inappropriate subjects to 3rd graders.
Correct. Training reimbursement sounds right.Min wage and average salary are the same? Now you are just showing more ignorance just to continue with the whining. As for volunteer firefighter they are not paid a w-2 wage. They may receive stipends for training and certain calls depending on the circumstance.