5 reasons Maddow's tax 'bombshell' story deserves a gift-basket from Trump

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1. She blew up the “Trump dodged taxes for decades” narrative

The damning evidence that Donald Trump is a Russian-designed cyborg terrorist is in his tax returns. Every liberal knows it. That’s why last October, The New York Times seized on a 1995 copy of Trump’s taxes and declared “he could have avoided taxes for nearly two decades” since then. Because, well, where are the tax returns after that? And what is he hiding?

Thanks to Rachel Maddow, we now have Trump’s 2005 tax returns, and it turns out he did, in fact, pay his taxes (at least once) the past two decades. $38 million of it. Doing my math on the back of a napkin, Donald Trump easily paid a higher percentage of his income to taxes in 2005 than President Obama in 2015.

2. Maddow verified Trump makes A LOT of money, a testament to his success.

3. She peddled a conspiracy theory that would make Alex “They’re turning the frogs GAY” Jones blush

Put on your thinking cap (the tinfoil one) — it’s time for some game theory. Here’s what Maddow figured out (abridged):

A portion of Trump’s tax returns have surfaced. These are returns for one year. The way we got that tax return is through Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist’s mailbox. Part of what’s very important is that, for some reason, we cannot discern why/how it ended up in his mailbox, unsolicited. It is clear, however, that this was a sad ratings ploy by MSNBC. Trump is the first President to refuse to release his returns. Even Richard Nixon (tax cheat!) released his taxes. Nixon was a crook. And a Republican. JUST LIKE TRUMP. Trump’s “I’m under audit” excuse doesn’t make sense. So clearly there must be some other nefarious reasons he won’t release his taxes. Enter the Russians.

Trump bought a really, really expensive home in Palm Beach, Fla. Then Trump flipped it for double the price to a Russian “oligarch.” Could Trump’s taxes explain why? MAYBE! WE DON’T KNOW … HE WON’T RELEASE THEM! Also, Russian names are difficult to pronounce. And that Russian Dude? One time he parked his yacht next to a Trump donor’s yacht …

You get the picture. This sort of nonsense went on for 20 minutes. Maddow rambled and it was weird. She took all the seriousness out of her own “reporting” by hiding the big reveal of Trump’s 1040 form (which turned out to be two pages that proved NONE of her wild allegations) behind this nonsense.

If you tuned in, you likely lost all interest in Trump’s taxes and are now invested in why MSNBC’s studios use lead piping for their water fountains.

4. She gifted Trump a lawsuit

So after that brief detour into insanity, “The Rachel Maddow Show” brought on the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston, who received Trump’s tax form in his mailbox.

Johnston had a ton of interesting things to say. He fought back against the White House’s accusation that these tax forms were obtained illegally, noting, “There’s absolutely nothing improper about Journalists, if you haven’t solicited something, getting it over the transom.”

Johnston, who recently authored the book “The Making of Donald Trump,” also suggested that the president himself could be the one behind the tax form leak, explaining, “Donald has a long history of leaking material about himself when he thinks it’s in his interest.”

He also said, on national television, that the first lady did “sleazy porn.”

5. She distracted from bad RINOcare news

Follow along with this news cycle …

The mainstream media reports, for months, that the government is probing individuals involved in the Trump campaign for Russian connections. Later, intelligence leaks insinuating loose connections to the Russians are reported, leading to the downfall of Trump’s first pick for national security adviser.

Then, two weeks ago, Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin takes what the media reported and asks if the Obama administration had the Trump campaign surveilled. Suddenly, the media flips the story, demanding concrete surveillance evidence from the Trump campaign. The Trump-Russia storyline falls out of style for a week while Mark Levin is falsely accused of pushing a baseless conspiracy theory.

Then the Republicans come forward with their Obamacare replacement plan, and it is roundly criticized by both the Left (who say the GOP is literally going to kill people) and the Right (who point out they're not really repealing Obamacare). Trump comes off a bad week of health care press and then a portion of his 2005 tax form is mysteriously released.

Now, after Maddow’s journalistic tease, the Left is back to talking about the Russians, and the Right is making fun of the Left for peddling an insane conspiracy theory.

Meanwhile, RINOcare slips away quietly into the night, as Wednesday’s news may well follow FBI Director James Comey going on the record on whether the FBI has opened a Trump-Russia investigation.

Rachel Maddow just did President Trump a yuge solid favor.

(Seriously)

Author- Chris Pandolfo/staff writer for Conservative Review.
 

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1. She blew up the “Trump dodged taxes for decades” narrative

The damning evidence that Donald Trump is a Russian-designed cyborg terrorist is in his tax returns. Every liberal knows it. That’s why last October, The New York Times seized on a 1995 copy of Trump’s taxes and declared “he could have avoided taxes for nearly two decades” since then. Because, well, where are the tax returns after that? And what is he hiding?

Thanks to Rachel Maddow, we now have Trump’s 2005 tax returns, and it turns out he did, in fact, pay his taxes (at least once) the past two decades. $38 million of it. Doing my math on the back of a napkin, Donald Trump easily paid a higher percentage of his income to taxes in 2005 than President Obama in 2015.

2. Maddow verified Trump makes A LOT of money, a testament to his success.

3. She peddled a conspiracy theory that would make Alex “They’re turning the frogs GAY” Jones blush

Put on your thinking cap (the tinfoil one) — it’s time for some game theory. Here’s what Maddow figured out (abridged):

A portion of Trump’s tax returns have surfaced. These are returns for one year. The way we got that tax return is through Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist’s mailbox. Part of what’s very important is that, for some reason, we cannot discern why/how it ended up in his mailbox, unsolicited. It is clear, however, that this was a sad ratings ploy by MSNBC. Trump is the first President to refuse to release his returns. Even Richard Nixon (tax cheat!) released his taxes. Nixon was a crook. And a Republican. JUST LIKE TRUMP. Trump’s “I’m under audit” excuse doesn’t make sense. So clearly there must be some other nefarious reasons he won’t release his taxes. Enter the Russians.

Trump bought a really, really expensive home in Palm Beach, Fla. Then Trump flipped it for double the price to a Russian “oligarch.” Could Trump’s taxes explain why? MAYBE! WE DON’T KNOW … HE WON’T RELEASE THEM! Also, Russian names are difficult to pronounce. And that Russian Dude? One time he parked his yacht next to a Trump donor’s yacht …

You get the picture. This sort of nonsense went on for 20 minutes. Maddow rambled and it was weird. She took all the seriousness out of her own “reporting” by hiding the big reveal of Trump’s 1040 form (which turned out to be two pages that proved NONE of her wild allegations) behind this nonsense.

If you tuned in, you likely lost all interest in Trump’s taxes and are now invested in why MSNBC’s studios use lead piping for their water fountains.

4. She gifted Trump a lawsuit

So after that brief detour into insanity, “The Rachel Maddow Show” brought on the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston, who received Trump’s tax form in his mailbox.

Johnston had a ton of interesting things to say. He fought back against the White House’s accusation that these tax forms were obtained illegally, noting, “There’s absolutely nothing improper about Journalists, if you haven’t solicited something, getting it over the transom.”

Johnston, who recently authored the book “The Making of Donald Trump,” also suggested that the president himself could be the one behind the tax form leak, explaining, “Donald has a long history of leaking material about himself when he thinks it’s in his interest.”

He also said, on national television, that the first lady did “sleazy porn.”

5. She distracted from bad RINOcare news

Follow along with this news cycle …

The mainstream media reports, for months, that the government is probing individuals involved in the Trump campaign for Russian connections. Later, intelligence leaks insinuating loose connections to the Russians are reported, leading to the downfall of Trump’s first pick for national security adviser.

Then, two weeks ago, Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin takes what the media reported and asks if the Obama administration had the Trump campaign surveilled. Suddenly, the media flips the story, demanding concrete surveillance evidence from the Trump campaign. The Trump-Russia storyline falls out of style for a week while Mark Levin is falsely accused of pushing a baseless conspiracy theory.

Then the Republicans come forward with their Obamacare replacement plan, and it is roundly criticized by both the Left (who say the GOP is literally going to kill people) and the Right (who point out they're not really repealing Obamacare). Trump comes off a bad week of health care press and then a portion of his 2005 tax form is mysteriously released.

Now, after Maddow’s journalistic tease, the Left is back to talking about the Russians, and the Right is making fun of the Left for peddling an insane conspiracy theory.

Meanwhile, RINOcare slips away quietly into the night, as Wednesday’s news may well follow FBI Director James Comey going on the record on whether the FBI has opened a Trump-Russia investigation.

Rachel Maddow just did President Trump a yuge solid favor.

(Seriously)

Author- Chris Pandolfo/staff writer for Conservative Review.

Great summary and Maddow did just gift Trump a huge favor. Believe it or not, Mika, on Morning Joe brought up this tax issues 6 times. Even the perilously liberal, Mark Halperin, said it amounted to nothing but she kept bringing it up. It's literally a disease at MSNBC and NBC.
 

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Great summary and Maddow did just gift Trump a huge favor. Believe it or not, Mika, on Morning Joe brought up this tax issues 6 times. Even the perilously liberal, Mark Halperin, said it amounted to nothing but she kept bringing it up. It's literally a disease at MSNBC and NBC.

They can't help it PAX. They have to cling to it because so much of their narrative about him was built around it, including his Russia ties which they are still convinced this will eventually prove.

They're mired in political quicksand and don't even realize it.
 

Best Virginia

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You look like a retard shaking pom poms for Donnie. He's trolling you just like he's trolling Maddow. You have to be pretty dumb to not realize Trump picked 2005 to be "exposed" for a reason. Where's his recent returns? Why is 2005 so important to you but you can ignore every other year that he's STILL hiding? Quit being an idiot.
 

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You look like a retard shaking pom poms for Donnie. He's trolling you just like he's trolling Maddow. You have to be pretty dumb to not realize Trump picked 2005 to be "exposed" for a reason. Where's his recent returns? Why is 2005 so important to you but you can ignore every other year that he's STILL hiding? Quit being an idiot.
LMAO.....You telling someone to quit being an idiot. I guess you were just verifying that Maddcow and her/his followers like you turned out to be the real idiots.
 

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You look like a retard shaking pom poms for Donnie. He's trolling you just like he's trolling Maddow. You have to be pretty dumb to not realize Trump picked 2005 to be "exposed" for a reason. Where's his recent returns? Why is 2005 so important to you but you can ignore every other year that he's STILL hiding? Quit being an idiot.

And you know that Trump was behind this how? Any proof? We know Maddow is a fool, so is your evidence that Trump picked a fool to help him?
 

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Quit being an idiot.

News flash Best Virginia

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016 OR ANY TIME AFTER OR BEFORE!!!!!!!!

You Leftists are the one's trying to either prove that Trump
1)Doesn't pay taxes--wrong
2) Cheats on them--wrong
3) Has side deals with Russians on them--wrong

You should take your own advice.
 

Best Virginia

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News flash Best Virginia

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016 OR ANY TIME AFTER OR BEFORE!!!!!!!!

You Leftists are the one's trying to either prove that Trump
1)Doesn't pay taxes--wrong
2) Cheats on them--wrong
3) Has side deals with Russians on them--wrong

You should take your own advice.
The most hilarious part of your post is claiming Trump a "success" in a year he wrote off $100 million in losses on $150 million income. Donnie The Liar had to go back 12 years to find something he could release and it still shows he's a corporate welfare king. If that's his best year just imagine what he's STILL hiding.
 

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BTW... your original pom pom shaking post say's you DO care about Donnie's tax returns. You obviously only care when it brings out your inner cheerleader.:cool2:[banana]
 

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The most hilarious part of your post is claiming Trump a "success" in a year he wrote off $100 million in losses on $150 million income. Donnie The Liar had to go back 12 years to find something he could release and it still shows he's a corporate welfare king. If that's his best year just imagine what he's STILL hiding.

Before those returns were "discovered" Best Va, you folks on the Left were convinced he paid 'no' taxes at all! So that lie is exposed, and now you're trying to think of another one on some other return.

Why can't you admit to the first lie you told, and just drop the rest?
 

Best Virginia

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And you know that Trump was behind this how? Any proof? We know Maddow is a fool, so is your evidence that Trump picked a fool to help him?
Maddow only cares about ratings. She's a pawn. From what I've read about Donnie he has a history of "releasing" favorable inside info. We all know Donnie loves to distract the media.
 

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BTW... your original pom pom shaking post say's you DO care about Donnie's tax returns. You obviously only care when it brings out your inner cheerleader.:cool2:[banana]

You've never seen me post anything "caring" about Trump's taxes unless he's either cheated, or refused to pay what he legally owes.

Neither of those is evident, and I really don't give a Damn about anything else in them.

Especially who he sold his houses to. The only ones trying to make something of that is you Leftist Socialist income redistributors who are probably mad he made some money selling something none of you can afford.
 

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Before those returns were "discovered" Best Va, you folks on the Left were convinced he paid 'no' taxes at all! So that lie is exposed, and now you're trying to think of another one on some other return.

Why can't you admit to the first lie you told, and just drop the rest?
lol.. are you really trying to pretend that 1 tax return from 12 years ago proves Donnie pay's taxes? Really? Wasn't there another release from '95 that showed he paid none?


Donald J. Trump explicitly acknowledged for the first time during Sunday’s debate that he used a $916 million loss that he reported on his 1995 income tax returns to avoid paying personal federal income taxes for years.

Mr. Trump’s response — “Of course I do. Of course I do” — was the fullest the wealthy developer had provided since The New York Times reported that he had declared the loss, and that the tax deduction could have been large enough to allow him to avoid federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

Previously he had declined to comment on the documents, issuing a statement that neither challenged nor confirmed the $916 million loss.

Asked directly during the debate if he would say how many years he had avoided paying federal income taxes, Mr. Trump responded, “No.”
 

Best Virginia

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So Maddow is both a fool and a pawn? Interesting.
I wouldn't call her a fool but it was foolish to let Trump troll her like this. I'm not sure if she cares as long as she gets the ratings. I also know that these people are very much controlled by money. If your boss told you to do something foolish for the company, chances are you might very well act the fool.
 

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I wouldn't call her a fool but it was foolish to let Trump troll her like this. I'm not sure if she cares as long as she gets the ratings. I also know that these people are very much controlled by money. If your boss told you to do something foolish for the company, chances are you might very well act the fool.

She looked like a fool last night. One night's ratings don't justify a long term hit to her ratings if she loses credibility. Very stupid on either her part or MSNBC's part, or both.
 

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lol.. are you really trying to pretend that 1 tax return from 12 years ago proves Donnie pay's taxes? Really? Wasn't there another release from '95 that showed he paid none?


Donald J. Trump explicitly acknowledged for the first time during Sunday’s debate that he used a $916 million loss that he reported on his 1995 income tax returns to avoid paying personal federal income taxes for years.

Mr. Trump’s response — “Of course I do. Of course I do” — was the fullest the wealthy developer had provided since The New York Times reported that he had declared the loss, and that the tax deduction could have been large enough to allow him to avoid federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

Previously he had declined to comment on the documents, issuing a statement that neither challenged nor confirmed the $916 million loss.

Asked directly during the debate if he would say how many years he had avoided paying federal income taxes, Mr. Trump responded, “No.”

Best Virginia, Trump's duty as well as yours and mine is to pay our taxes but only the amount required under the law. The loss is a LEGAL carry forward. Every company with a loss uses it. It is not uncommon and I have used it before. It is in the IRS code. Remember after Immelt (CEO of GE) was given a prominent advisor position under Obama we learned the GE paid zero taxes the year before? It was ALL LEGAL.

It is the duty of a CEO to minimize a company's tax burden using every legal means possible.
 

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Best Virginia, Trump's duty as well as yours and mine is to pay our taxes but only the amount required under the law. The loss is a LEGAL carry forward. Every company with a loss uses it. It is not uncommon and I have used it before. It is in the IRS code. Remember after Immelt (CEO of GE) was given a prominent advisor position under Obama we learned the GE paid zero taxes the year before? It was ALL LEGAL.

It is the duty of a CEO to minimize a company's tax burden using every legal means possible.
I'm not claiming it's illegal, but pretending Trump is a "successful" businessman while he's writing off $100 million from $150 million is a farce. Welfare isn't illegal. People having 10 babies while sponging off the government isn't illegal. Guess what? They have just as much legal right as a Trump to sponge. Are you supporting that too, claiming they are successful? Under Trump's new tax plan he and his cronies will pay even less. It's wrong. Period. Doesn't matter if people like Trump have made it legal. It's still a POS thing to do, just like having welfare babies.
 

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... had to go back 12 years to find something he could release and it still shows he's a corporate welfare king. If that's his best year just imagine what he's STILL hiding.

this IS the problem with the obamaandcnnbrainwashedmecrowd...

HE PAID $35 MILLION IN TAXES AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT ...
 

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I'm not claiming it's illegal, but pretending Trump is a "successful" businessman while he's writing off $100 million from $150 million is a farce. Welfare isn't illegal. People having 10 babies while sponging off the government isn't illegal. Guess what? They have just as much legal right as a Trump to sponge. Are you supporting that too, claiming they are successful? Under Trump's new tax plan he and his cronies will pay even less. It's wrong. Period. Doesn't matter if people like Trump have made it legal. It's still a POS thing to do, just like having welfare babies.

Hey Best Virginia a "write off" is a reduction of tax liability from earned income or assets.

The money belongs to the taxpayer NOT the Government.

Trump "writing off" losses still means he generates other taxable income.

The income he generates pays other taxpayers who also pay taxes.

The revenue his businesses produce provide additional tax revenues.

He pays taxes on income in some years and claims deductions in other years.

He makes more than you, and pays more taxes than you, so why are you worried about it?

You don't send in anything beyond your legal obligation and neither does he.

What difference does it make how much he earns, writes off, or pays in taxes?

It's his money not yours, his businesses not yours, so what you complaining about?

He doesn't owe yours, mine, or anyone else's taxes, so your post is irrelevant.
 
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WVPATX

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I'm not claiming it's illegal, but pretending Trump is a "successful" businessman while he's writing off $100 million from $150 million is a farce. Welfare isn't illegal. People having 10 babies while sponging off the government isn't illegal. Guess what? They have just as much legal right as a Trump to sponge. Are you supporting that too, claiming they are successful? Under Trump's new tax plan he and his cronies will pay even less. It's wrong. Period. Doesn't matter if people like Trump have made it legal. It's still a POS thing to do, just like having welfare babies.

Based on your post, I'm not sure you know very much about real estate investment. For a developer as large as Trump, a $100 million loss can happen very quickly as the real estate market moves. And he like every other business in this country is entitled to carry that loss forward. But that carry forward will only do him any good if he has earnings. To equate this to trump sponging off the government is absolutely incredible. Trump owns and operates many different businesses. Some make money, some lose money and he generates taxes and payments accordingly. He Employees tens of thousands of people, he pays an enormous amount of taxes in states not only income but property and sales taxes. Forbes estimate his net worth at $10 billion. So yes I would call him successful and is a great asset to the country, not a sponge.
 
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