A couple OC candidates to whet the appetite

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
Just examples showing there are competent, attainable OCs out there:

Justin Burke: 37. Played QB at NC State. Current OC at UTSA, scoring 32 ppg. They have put up 30+ ppg in each year he's been OC. Career is on an traditional upward trajectory going from analyst to position coach to OC.

Gordon Sammis: OC at UConn. Played OL at UVA. Has steadily climbed the ranks through the smaller schools. Assumed OC duties at UConn in 2024. In 2023 UConn averaged 18.9 ppg. In 2024 they put up 29.3 ppg. This year they are scoring 34.1 ppg. Keys for us: he played OL, so he has knowledge of what it takes at that position to have a successful offense. He was previously OL coach there and established a stout rushing attack. Broyles Award nominee last season. Someone's going to snatch this guy up soon. UConn HC, Jim Mora, who knows a thing or two about football has called him an offensive genius.

Kevin McGiven. He's run successful offenses at a number of programs.

Now, I know this thread will bring out the UTSA, UConn, etc experts to detract from these examples. This is just a sampling, though, showing that there are plenty of successful OCs out there in situations that would be attainable for us. Only one that may not be attainable is Sammis, as I suspect he will get a lot of interest from superior programs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: treyno2722

Legal_fowl

Sophomore
Apr 3, 2019
210
127
43
Just examples showing there are competent, attainable OCs out there:

Justin Burke: 37. Played QB at NC State. Current OC at UTSA, scoring 32 ppg. They have put up 30+ ppg in each year he's been OC. Career is on an traditional upward trajectory going from analyst to position coach to OC.

Gordon Sammis: OC at UConn. Played OL at UVA. Has steadily climbed the ranks through the smaller schools. Assumed OC duties at UConn in 2024. In 2023 UConn averaged 18.9 ppg. In 2024 they put up 29.3 ppg. This year they are scoring 34.1 ppg. Keys for us: he played OL, so he has knowledge of what it takes at that position to have a successful offense. He was previously OL coach there and established a stout rushing attack. Broyles Award nominee last season. Someone's going to snatch this guy up soon. UConn HC, Jim Mora, who knows a thing or two about football has called him an offensive genius.

Kevin McGiven. He's run successful offenses at a number of programs.

Now, I know this thread will bring out the UTSA, UConn, etc experts to detract from these examples. This is just a sampling, though, showing that there are plenty of successful OCs out there in situations that would be attainable for us. Only one that may not be attainable is Sammis, as I suspect he will get a lot of interest from superior programs.
I agree, but will Beamer look that far down the ladder? He's probably going to aim higher and look for someone with P4 and/or NFL experience. He will whiff on all of those and pick a position coach or an NFL assistant.

Yes, I am being negative but I can't help it right now. The program is in sorry shape and I think the chances that Beamer can fix it, based on his record, are very small.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 92Pony

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
I agree, but will Beamer look that far down the ladder? He's probably going to aim higher and look for someone with P4 and/or NFL experience. He will whiff on all of those and pick a position coach or an NFL assistant.

Yes, I am being negative but I can't help it right now. The program is in sorry shape and I think the chances that Beamer can fix it, based on his record, are very small.

I can see him prioritizing a P4 position coach over a G5 OC. But, to be frank, these schools are not all that far down the ladder from us as programs. Yes, we are in the SEC, so it's a step up in that respect, but it's not as though we stand head and shoulders above many programs.

Just doing some basic research, there are a lot of G5 guys out there who I think could do a very fine job. They have experienced records as OCs with good results. The state we're in, we simply need someone who has a basic grasp on offensive philosophy and get us from the bottom rung of the ladder more towards the middle. There are scant few elite candidates out there, but I think there many, attainable candidates who can offer what we need at the moment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Legal_fowl

JPUSC

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2015
30
15
8
If Beamer/Donati go for a splashy hire, Kendal Briles would have my vote. Donati’s relationship with him could help. Lanorris, if he decided to stay, would be a home run schematic fit in a Briles system. Same with Harbor too. The key would be Donati lays the groundwork with his history with Briles at TCU and forces (essentially) Beamer’s hand in allowing him to completely take over the offense.
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
If Beamer/Donati go for a splashy hire, Kendal Briles would have my vote. Donati’s relationship with him could help. Lanorris, if he decided to stay, would be a home run schematic fit in a Briles system. Same with Harbor too. The key would be Donati lays the groundwork with his history with Briles at TCU and forces (essentially) Beamer’s hand in allowing him to completely take over the offense.

Just me, but I would avoid splashy. One, it's probably not attainable, so it's a waste of valuable time. And, more often than not, the splashy hires don't really work very well. But I think just about anyone with collegiate OC experience would be a significant upgrade over Shula.
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
The more I read about Sammis at UConn, the more I like. Mora is a defensive guy, so there's no concern that Sammis isn't really running the offense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 92Pony

PrestonyteParrot

All-Conference
May 28, 2024
2,103
2,092
113
Someone I think we could get who could help us establish the consistent running game we have been missing is Drew Cronic.
His story reminds me a lot of Connor Shaw's background as the son of a Georgia high school coach who has been immersed in football his entire life. He has demonstrated some major successes along his path to the OC at Navy with several COY Awards and program turnaround achievements.

Navy Offensive Coordinator Drew Cronic: The trust in him among the players is unwavering - Naval Academy Athletics
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
Someone I think we could get who could help us establish the consistent running game we have been missing is Drew Cronic.
His story reminds me a lot of Connor Shaw's background as the son of a Georgia high school coach who has been immersed in football his entire life. He has demonstrated some major successes along his path to the OC at Navy with several COY Awards and program turnaround achievements.

Navy Offensive Coordinator Drew Cronic: The trust in him among the players is unwavering - Naval Academy Athletics

Hijacking my thread to push your own candidate? The audacity.
 

Lurker123

All-Conference
May 4, 2020
4,684
3,906
113
These are good ideas. Good candidates.

We aren't competing with bigger programs, so choose feom a different batch if candidates.

This would take a change in philosophy from Shane though. Can he do it? Will he pass up a guy running a decent college offense for that position coach who once coached in the NFL?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 92Pony

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
16,593
14,027
113
These are good ideas. Good candidates.

We aren't competing with bigger programs, so choose feom a different batch if candidates.

This would take a change in philosophy from Shane though. Can he do it? Will he pass up a guy running a decent college offense for that position coach who once coached in the NFL?

That's the multimillion $ question.

I'm basically operating on the "surely, by now he has to understand his way isn't working" philosophy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 92Pony