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I've been looking at the bio of UCF coach Josh Heupel. Quite impressive, and knows the state of Florida. Has Randy Shannon on his staff - who definitely knows how to recruit Florida. Has a nice bio, I forgot he was the Heisman runner-up once. And, he picked up where Scott Frost left off and didn't miss a beat.
 
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KerryRhodes

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Not to throw cold water but does he go to OU if Lincoln Riley goes to the NFL.

I bet he wouldn't be afraid of the challenge.
 

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Here’s my problem with him. How much of his success is simply due to it being high tide right now at UCF?
 

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Because it was Jeff Brohm's fault he was named by Tyra? Bush league AD who blew it.

Heupel has been a head coach for 1 season, but he is taking over the OU job that isn't open?

"Done Deal" Brohm was great until he told UL no. What report, from Purdue's AD, is showing a $6m per season extension? There is no extension announced at all, just one likely involved, terms unknown. The only "news" that was coming out about the Brohm saga was from UL.
 

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Because it was Jeff Brohm's fault he was named by Tyra? Bush league AD who blew it.

Heupel has been a head coach for 1 season, but he is taking over the OU job that isn't open?

"Done Deal" Brohm was great until he told UL no. What report, from Purdue's AD, is showing a $6m per season extension? There is no extension announced at all, just one likely involved, terms unknown. The only "news" that was coming out about the Brohm saga was from UL.

This must be real tough for you to understand, but I’ll try again. BEFORE Tyra even hinted at Brohm, Jeff had plenty of time, just like Heupel, to squash any rumors that he was leaving Purdue.
 
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This must be real tough for you to understand, but I’ll try again. BEFORE Tyra even hinted at Brohm, Jeff had plenty of time, just like Heupel, to squash any rumors that he was leaving Purdue.
We've seen it happen enough times where someone says that they are not leaving, and, two weeks later, announce that they are leaving. For a coach to say that he is staying is meaningless.
 

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We've seen it happen enough times where someone says that they are not leaving, and, two weeks later, announce that they are leaving. For a coach to say that he is staying is meaningless.

That’s obviously true, but not what I was getting at. UofL could not have physically made Brohm have an interview. If Tyra had heard Jeff say he was happy at Purdue and was not looking, then Tyra would not have wasted his own time.
 
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That’s obviously true, but not what I was getting at. UofL could not have physically made Brohm have an interview. If Tyra had heard Jeff say he was happy at Purdue and was not looking, then Tyra would not have wasted his own time.
Nott true at all. ADs will still approach them even when they say that. Scott Frost said it last year at UCF. Mike Norvell has said it, and he is still considered a candidate here. Thus, I would not believe any coach who says that, including Brohm. With the benefit of hindsight, you can say he never wanted to come here based on the fact that he declined the job. I suspect he took the offer seriously and gave it very serious consideration, i.e., his mind was not made up until Wednesday.
 

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This must be real tough for you to understand, but I’ll try again. BEFORE Tyra even hinted at Brohm, Jeff had plenty of time, just like Heupel, to squash any rumors that he was leaving Purdue.
I know this is hard for you to understand. Out of professional courtesy you have to listen to all offers before you decide between the two. Brohm out of respect had to listen to what Tyra was offering to even make a decision. It wasn’t like Tyra offered him a blank check and keys to the city even though we think Louisville is the Emerald City.
 

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Nott true at all. ADs will still approach them even when they say that. Scott Frost said it last year at UCF. Mike Norvell has said it, and he is still considered a candidate here. Thus, I would not believe any coach who says that, including Brohm. With the benefit of hindsight, you can say he never wanted to come here based on the fact that he declined the job. I suspect he took the offer seriously and gave it very serious consideration, i.e., his mind was not made up until Wednesday.

Well we can agree to disagree on the Brohm situation, but Scott Frost was definitely open to returning to Nebraska.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...aska-cornhuskers-nebraska-20180924-story.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/899672001

Actually, after adding both those links, the first story from the Orlando sentinel makes me even more upset that Brohm didn’t take the UofL job. You could see Scott Frost’s passion for Nebraska jump out of the article. I don’t hold any ill will towards Jeff, I just thought he really wanted to be here and was our answer to a coach who really loves UofL and would be here not looking for a better gig.
 
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kentuckyshame

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I know this is hard for you to understand. Out of professional courtesy you have to listen to all offers before you decide between the two. Brohm out of respect had to listen to what Tyra was offering to even make a decision. It wasn’t like Tyra offered him a blank check and keys to the city even though we think Louisville is the Emerald City.

The courtesy would have been a behind the scenes talk between Brohm and Tyra, it absolutely could have been put to rest before the drama.
 

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The courtesy would have been a behind the scenes talk between Brohm and Tyra, it absolutely could have been put to rest before the drama.
You fail to understand the timing of the situation. Until he fully knew Tyra’s offer, he had to prepare his team for an upcoming bowl game. It can’t be all for U of L’s convenience much as we all believed he was supposed to just come a running if we whistled...
 

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You fail to understand the timing of the situation. Until he fully knew Tyra’s offer, he had to prepare his team for an upcoming bowl game. It can’t be all for U of L’s convenience much as we all believed he was supposed to just come a running if we whistled...

You act like he didn’t have enough time to decide if he wanted the job after Petrino was fired. He knew it was coming, he was asked in press conferences, and that’s before we offered. What the hell would have changed his mind pertaining to “Tyra’s offer”? You are alluding to the fact that Tyra had any control over the situation, as if Tyra could have made a better offer. Jeff made UofL look foolish, I’m sure not on purpose, but he definitely did. He should have never accepted the interview and said simply, when asked, “I love UofL, but I made a commitment to Purdue, the timing just isn’t right.” But hey, at least Jeff got a raise. I’m happy for him, just feel defeated.
 
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Well we can agree to disagree on the Brohm situation, but Scott Frost was definitely open to returning to Nebraska.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...aska-cornhuskers-nebraska-20180924-story.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/899672001

Actually, after adding both those links, the first story from the Orlando sentinel makes me even more upset that Brohm didn’t take the UofL job. You could see Scott Frost’s passion for Nebraska jump out of the article. I don’t hold any ill will towards Jeff, I just thought he really wanted to be here and was our answer to a coach who really loves UofL and would be here not looking for a better gig.

Again, apples and oranges.
Your point is that before anybody, such as Tyra, started talking to him, Brohm could have said he was not interested. Well, Frost wanted to go, but was not public about it, and said he was staying before and while Nebraska became a clear option.

Again, all coaches do it. If Brohm had said it, it would not have stopped Tyra from approaching him, and it would not have prevented Brohm from listening to him nor would it have stopped him from considering it.
 

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Again, apples and oranges.
Your point is that before anybody, such as Tyra, started talking to him, Brohm could have said he was not interested. Well, Frost wanted to go, but was not public about it, and said he was staying before and while Nebraska became a clear option.

Again, all coaches do it. If Brohm had said it, it would not have stopped Tyra from approaching him, and it would not have prevented Brohm from listening to him nor would it have stopped him from considering it.

Man, i guess you wont let us agree to disagree regarding Brohm. You’re so close about my point, you’re really almost there. With Brohm i was specifically referring to uofl, because we are a special situation with him.

As far as Scott Frost goes, i provided you two links that prove he was very clear about loving ucf, but at the same time very interested in the nebraska job. So this theory that all coaches say the same thing, can be repeated a million times, but that just doesnt make it true. Scott Frost is a prime example.
 
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You fail to understand the timing of the situation. Until he fully knew Tyra’s offer, he had to prepare his team for an upcoming bowl game. It can’t be all for U of L’s convenience much as we all believed he was supposed to just come a running if we whistled...
He told Tyra thru Friebert that he’d come to UofL and then changed his mind - simple as that. Think Billy D to Magic. That scenario except it was done behind the scenes. He left Tyra holding the bag and his weepy interview all but confirmed it.
 

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He told Tyra thru Friebert that he’d come to UofL and then changed his mind - simple as that. Think Billy D to Magic. That scenario except it was done behind the scenes. He left Tyra holding the bag and his weepy interview all but confirmed it.

Where did you hear/read this?
 

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He told Tyra thru Friebert that he’d come to UofL and then changed his mind - simple as that. Think Billy D to Magic. That scenario except it was done behind the scenes. He left Tyra holding the bag and his weepy interview all but confirmed it.
This is the problem with the whole Brohm drama. The done deal talk was from Brohm's inner circle. I was told by someone who went to Trinity, coaches at Trinty and knows all people involved that is was a done deal at the NC State game. The only concern at that time was would Purdue throw an offer that Louisville wouldn't match. All these Purdue people hanging around the board that s what happened.

I have no problem with Brohm staying because I would have done the same. I appreciate how he mind up his mind I think he is a man of his word. That is probably why this stung his inner circle. He didn't handle this right from the start. He knew deep down he wasn't leaving because if every reason he stated why he was staying. He knew the answer as soon as Petrino was fired yet he allowed his people to spread the word he was coming. That is why I believe Tyra when he said he knew in their talk Brohm wasn't all in.

Tyra was smart enough to know if he went to get Brohm he better know he was getting Brohm. The fallout would be real. Brohm didn't care enough about the impact his change of mind had on Louisville.
 
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Where did you hear/read this?
Multiple sources - both from people (of the first hand variety) close to Brohm and, close to Friebert - up to and including during the MSU basketball game. Friebert himself got caught somewhat off guard by Brohm’s last minute change of heart.
 

KerryRhodes

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This is the problem with the whole Brohm drama. The done deal talk was from Brohm's inner circle. I was told by someone who went to Trinity, coaches at Trinty and knows all people involved that is was a done deal at the NC State game. The only concern at that time was would Purdue throw an offer that Louisville wouldn't match. All these Purdue people hanging around the board that s what happened.

I have no problem with Brohm staying because I would have done the same. I appreciate how he mind up his mind I think he is a man of his word. That is probably why this stung his inner circle. He didn't handle this right from the start. He knew deep down he wasn't leaving because if every reason he stated why he was staying. He knew the answer as soon as Petrino was fired yet he allowed his people to spread the word he was coming. That is why I believe Tyra when he said he knew in their talk Brohm wasn't all in.

Tyra was smart enough to know if he went to get Brohm he better know he was getting Brohm. The fallout would be real. Brohm didn't care enough about the impact his change of mind had on Louisville.

Youre the third person on this board who has confirmed the "done deal."

I heard similar.

Take that all you doubting Thomases, and ********.
 

zipp_rivals

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Josh Heupel has already came out and said he is staying at UCF for the time being before he had received any offers from any other schools. Something another coach could have done.
There's no reason for U of L to take offense at Brohm's timing. If anyone should have had issues, it was Purdue. Too many of our fans are just butthurt...
 

zipp_rivals

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Youre the third person on this board who has confirmed the "done deal."

I heard similar.

Take that all you doubting Thomases, and ********.
I just like that one guy wore out the "D" key on his keyboard.

"Done deal" is a BS concept. I've done enough "deals" in my lifetime to know that talk from everyone is cheap. You believe it when you have something on paper and the money in your hand...
 
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zipp_rivals

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This is the problem with the whole Brohm drama. The done deal talk was from Brohm's inner circle. I was told by someone who went to Trinity, coaches at Trinty and knows all people involved that is was a done deal at the NC State game. The only concern at that time was would Purdue throw an offer that Louisville wouldn't match. All these Purdue people hanging around the board that s what happened.

I have no problem with Brohm staying because I would have done the same. I appreciate how he mind up his mind I think he is a man of his word. That is probably why this stung his inner circle. He didn't handle this right from the start. He knew deep down he wasn't leaving because if every reason he stated why he was staying. He knew the answer as soon as Petrino was fired yet he allowed his people to spread the word he was coming. That is why I believe Tyra when he said he knew in their talk Brohm wasn't all in.

Tyra was smart enough to know if he went to get Brohm he better know he was getting Brohm. The fallout would be real. Brohm didn't care enough about the impact his change of mind had on Louisville.
In the end, Brohm took the higher dollar amount--$6 vs $5 million. I have no problem with that. All of these people can say after the fact that it wasn't about money, but that's an interesting coincidence that tells me otherwise.

If "Vince" wanted Brohm, he simply needed to pay more money that he doesn't have...
 

KerryRhodes

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I just like that one guy wore out the "D" key on his keyboard...

Says the guy obsessed with the University of Louisville's Athletic Director.

He probably has a restraining order against you.

I , as others was proven correct.

You, not so much.
 

KerryRhodes

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I said done deal, all that was left was to line things up and sign the contract.

Thats why UofL players and recruits were told it was "a done deal".

Season tickets were going to skyrocket.

Youve been wrong so much, you should write a book Zipp......
 
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Man, i guess you wont let us agree to disagree regarding Brohm. You’re so close about my point, you’re really almost there. With Brohm i was specifically referring to uofl, because we are a special situation with him.

As far as Scott Frost goes, i provided you two links that prove he was very clear about loving ucf, but at the same time very interested in the nebraska job. So this theory that all coaches say the same thing, can be repeated a million times, but that just doesnt make it true. Scott Frost is a prime example.
I gotcha. You are saying that, given Brohm’s history with UofL, he should have handled it differently than all other coaches typically do. I can agree with you on that point.

So, I can also see the Scott Frost connection here, i.e. history. I still don’t agree with your point on the similarities to him, and your articles don’t support it. Yes, Frost wanted the job. He was not public about it. The second article is actually him acknowledging their interest in him, but he would not say that he wanted the job. He kept bringing things back to UCF. The story was in follow up to him saying “he was really happy here at UCF and things are going great....”

Of course, Frost is a minor point here. I think you showed your major point, and, on my end, I did not consider that history could figure in.