A true 4-Out offense?

[MdWIldcat55]

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 40-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins -- and WIlliams slashing from the wing -- with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

 

[Anon687865]

That's a true 40-0 offense

 

[UKSanders]

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 49-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins, with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

That lineup would certainly have some advantages, and it will possibly be the best lineup. However, that lineup would get abused in the paint on the defensive end.

I don't like (and honestly believe) having an offense that does not have a good, reliable option to post up and get a basket on the block. Some games (and even some droughts during games), the shots just aren't going to fall. The best teams have the flexibility to push the ball to the block for an easy score/trip to the foul line. I don't like relying on Moreno being the only option...which for this team, that MAY be the case regardless of lineup. So, hopefully, he makes a big jump with that part of his game OR someone unexpected (like McBride) can provide help here.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

Don’t worry. They will play 4 out defense too.

 

[The Ganner]

I'm assuming we would go with Milan and McBride. McBride can play out on the perimeter as well.

 

[UKgrad22]

Don’t worry. They will play 4 out defense too.

Prepare for another broken clipboard

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 49-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins, with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

I think honestly that is Pope’s best chance of winning big. Warriors death lineup that scores 105 each game.

 

[BBNinSCar]

I have never seen anything from Kam Williams to warrant any hope that he is an SEC-caliber forward. I hope he’s better, but I don’t get the idea that he’s a starter.
Diallo
Wilkins
Momcilovic
N’Daiye
Moreno

 

[UKSanders]

Don’t worry. They will play 4 out defense too.

If that's the case (and I am afraid you are probably correct), Pope better find his most potent offensive combos (both starting lineup and substitution combos) and and keep them on the court together as much as possible.

 

[UKSanders]

I have never seen anything from Kam Williams to warrant any hope that he is an SEC-caliber forward. I hope he’s better, but I don’t get the idea that he’s a starter.
Diallo
Wilkins
Momcilovic
N’Daiye
Moreno

I think Kam has real potential, but other than possibly perimeter shooting, I am also not sure that he does anything better than N'Diaye (although it's hard to see any defense in highlights for N'Diaye, so who knows). But, if those 2 are fairly across the board, I would also lean toward the guy with more length for rim protection/rebounding.

 

[BBNinSCar]

The SEC is loaded with great big men. I like Moreno at the center spot, but have real concerns that we don't come close to matching up physically with Florida or Tennessee.

 

[The Ganner]

The SEC is loaded with great big men. I like Moreno at the center spot, but have real concerns that we don't come close to matching up physically with Florida or Tennessee.

I was really hoping we'd get a stud PF. I think we're better at the 4 than last year, but not as good as hoped. If we DO get Momcilovic, I feel pretty good about the starters at the other 4 positions, and feel good about our DEPTH at 3-5. It's lack of a really good PF and guard depth that worries me. Most of the optimistic arguments about our reserve guards feels like hopium to me. Diallo is not as good a PG as I'd hoped for but I do really like Wilkins and think he's being underrated by many people, Momcilovic would be PERFECT for Pope, and with strength and conditioning improvements, Moreno can be really damn good. It's not a championship roster but it's a roster good enough to leave NO excuses for lack of success.

 

[chattanogawildcat]

That's a true 40-0 offense

 

[vhcat1970]

4-out sounds to me like they'd be playing horse.

 

[Wunky]

WIlliams slashing from the wing

You lost me right here.

 

[#1 cat fan]

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 40-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins -- and WIlliams slashing from the wing -- with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

Williams slashing? I have yet to see him dribble a basketball being guarded tightly. Same for Milan. They may both shoot it great but I'm skeptical that neither can drive the basketball and that is what creates stagnant offense

 

[#1 cat fan]

That lineup would certainly have some advantages, and it will possibly be the best lineup. However, that lineup would get abused in the paint on the defensive end.

I don't like (and honestly believe) having an offense that does not have a good, reliable option to post up and get a basket on the block. Some games (and even some droughts during games), the shots just aren't going to fall. The best teams have the flexibility to push the ball to the block for an easy score/trip to the foul line. I don't like relying on Moreno being the only option...which for this team, that MAY be the case regardless of lineup. So, hopefully, he makes a big jump with that part of his game OR someone unexpected (like McBride) can provide help here.

100% agree. I think McBride will be pretty solid for that hopefully.
Everyone wants to talk 3 point shooting but in college basketball, you have to have someone who can score inside 5 ft. Cal was great at this, and made sure his bigs played like bigs

 

[DelkBowl]

It's a 5 out offense since pope seems to think his center needs to be out there even though they can't shoot threes.

 

[UKSanders]

Williams slashing? I have yet to see him dribble a basketball being guarded tightly. Same for Milan. They may both shoot it great but I'm skeptical that neither can drive the basketball and that is what creates stagnant offense

Agree on Williams... if I were his coach or father, I would've had 1 question for him before this offseason began, "Do you want to play in the NBA?"

If yes, his offseason assignment would've been hours and hours of ballhandling drills b/c with his height, athleticism, and perimeter shooting ability, IF he adds the ability to attack WITH change of direction (not just straight line drive) off the bounce, his NBA potential SKYROCKETS.

He would be assigned an assistant coach with whom he would check in weekly to verify he was reaching his goal.

 

[BBNinSCar]

I was really hoping we'd get a stud PF. I think we're better at the 4 than last year, but not as good as hoped. If we DO get Momcilovic, I feel pretty good about the starters at the other 4 positions, and feel good about our DEPTH at 3-5. It's lack of a really good PF and guard depth that worries me. Most of the optimistic arguments about our reserve guards feels like hopium to me. Diallo is not as good a PG as I'd hoped for but I do really like Wilkins and think he's being underrated by many people, Momcilovic would be PERFECT for Pope, and with strength and conditioning improvements, Moreno can be really damn good. It's not a championship roster but it's a roster good enough to leave NO excuses for lack of success.

I hope so. This seems like a group of finesse shooters that will get bullied in the SEC.

 

[Noledynasty2490]

Moreno ain't exactly Shaq down there physically. We'd never get a rebound. Honestly if you're gonna run those 4 in the backcourt you should do it with Kepang.

 

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[RedwoodHigh]

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 40-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins -- and WIlliams slashing from the wing -- with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

People are assuming if UK does sign Momcilovic that means he replaces Kam Williams in the starting line-up.

That would mean a guy who could be poised for a terrific season -6’8”, maybe Kentucky’s best defender last year when healthy, athletic and shot 41.5 from 3 as a freshman —sees his role diminished a bit.

But could Kentucky run a true 4-out offense, with Diallo and Wilkins as guards, Milan and Kam as 6’8” wings, and Moreno inside?

That starting lineup would be taller at every position than the Villanova champions of 2016. Sure, there are a few teams in the schedule that probably have too much size for it to work against like Florida. But not that many.

You’d not be using the lineup constantly. N’Diaye and McBride and Kepnang would be in and out.

But imagine on offense having two 6-8 wings each capable of 40-percent plus 3-point shooting, and the driving lanes that opens for Diallo and Wilkins -- and WIlliams slashing from the wing -- with Moreno as a skilled 7-footer inside.

There are lots of teams smaller that 6-5, 6-3, 6-8, 6-8, 7-0, especially when you have a bench full of guys like N’Diaye, McBride and Kepnang to rotate in, so you aren’t wearing anyone out.

Teams with less size than that lineup manage to rebound and play excellent defense -Iowa State for one.

I could see it working —not full time, but as a basic offensive attack using the 4-out philosophy.

You forgot Hawthorne?