A WV gal, Jennifer Garner, had this to say about Trump

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You've got stars in your eyes...you're very fascinated with what Hollywood does and says regarding our so called prez. That's nice.

No, just proud that a WV girl has not lost her roots. She knows the devastation wrought by Obama on WV. She is open to working with anyone that can help.
 

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No, just proud that a WV girl has not lost her roots. She knows the devastation wrought by Obama on WV. She is open to working with anyone that can help.
Obviously she's a Trump suck up. Surely Trump won't let her and WV down.
 

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campaigned for the pants suit and hosted a fundraiser for maobama and she's a Trump suck up?.....well alrighty then

It seems she sincerely wants to help folks back home and is willing to work with a man she campaigned against to do so. Seems pretty honorable to me. But to libs, she's a suck up. WOW.
 

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Obviously she's a Trump suck up. Surely Trump won't let her and WV down.
After the disgusting fellation you gave Obama the previous 8 years this ironic post is delicious.
 

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So now that Obama is not in office, all of those coal jobs are coming back, right?

Some will, many won't. Tough to put the genie back in the bottle after Obama's EPA shuttered so many coal fired power plants. Overseas is our best opportunity to reopen some mines and help some miners and their communities. China just stopped buying coal from North Korea. That could help.

But what will also help is Trump's love of oil and gas fracking. Big time help to WV. Rover pipeline already approved.
 
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Some will, many won't. Tough to put the genie back in the bottle after Obama's EPA shuttered so many coal fired power plants. Overseas is our best opportunity to reopen some mines and help some miners and their communities. China just stopped buying coal from North Korea. That could help.

But what will also help is Trump's love of oil and gas fracking. Big time help to WV. Rover pipeline already approved.

Alternate Reality. Read the two links I provided above. Gas. It is what we have been saying all along. The right just wanted to make Obama the boogey man. Well, that's been exposed.
 

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Alternate Reality. Read the two links I provided above. Gas. It is what we have been saying all along. The right just wanted to make Obama the boogey man. Well, that's been exposed.
Got those plans for all those gas plants?
 

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I'm surprised you are asking for more embarrassment.

Tell us dave, how we are not taking gas out of the ground. [laughing][laughing][laughing]
They arent. They sell enough to pay their operating costs but as you were shown and clearly ignored the major pipeline network and cracker plants are still a couple years away.

Now, tell me all about these gas powered plants and pipelines to get the gas to them.
 
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They arent. They sell enough to pay their operating costs but as you were shown and clearly ignored the major pipeline network and cracker plants are still a couple years away.

Now, tell me all about these gas powered plants and pipelines to get the gas to them.

You mean these gas lines?



You mean these profits from these cracker plants that are "still two years away"?




You make this too easy.....and you don't mind at all getting the **** embarrassed out of yourself. [laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]
 

dave

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You mean these gas lines?



You mean these profits from these cracker plants that are "still two years away"?




You make this too easy.....and you don't mind at all getting the **** embarrassed out of yourself. [laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]
Good grief you are one obtuse fool. Congrats on finding irrelevant information in chart and graph form. It doesn't matter how many existing pipelines there are anywhere sugartits, if there are no pipelines to connect the wells to the network, they can't move the gas.
 

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Sounded like it was dripping with sarcasm to me. And she was born in Houston, TX, not WV. Not a native.

She was raised in Charleston. Quit deceiving.

“We weren’t raising a celebrity; we were raising a daughter, Patricia says of Jennifer’s childhood. The actress says she wouldn’t trade growing up in West Virginia for anything. “I feel so fortunate to have grown up in a place where people look out for each other,” she says. “Community is the one thing people crave most, and it’s hard to come by. I grew up with such an excess of it that now wherever I go, the first thing I do is build my group.”
 

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Now please show me all the gas plants and the corresponding pipelines that are moving all this fresh gas to gas powered plants.
 
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She was raised in Charleston. Quit deceiving.

“We weren’t raising a celebrity; we were raising a daughter, Patricia says of Jennifer’s childhood. The actress says she wouldn’t trade growing up in West Virginia for anything. “I feel so fortunate to have grown up in a place where people look out for each other,” she says. “Community is the one thing people crave most, and it’s hard to come by. I grew up with such an excess of it that now wherever I go, the first thing I do is build my group.”
na·tive
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    a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
    "a native of Montreal"
 

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na·tive
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    a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
    "a native of Montreal"

Semantics. She grew up in WV. Calls WV her home state, at least in the interview I saw. The quote speaks for itself.
 
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Good grief you are one obtuse fool. Congrats on finding irrelevant information in chart and graph form. It doesn't matter how many existing pipelines there are anywhere sugartits, if there are no pipelines to connect the wells to the network, they can't move the gas.

[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]

Tell me you are just acting this stupid. Irrelevant? The chart shows the network of gas lines already in place in this country, the ones you said "were a couple years away".
You do know they transport gas by rail, truck and barge as well as pipeline? You also know they can change from gas phase to liquid phase?

You obviously don't understand that you don't have to have a cracker plant to extract gas. The cracker plant is used to take advantage of obtaining the ethylene from the extraction.

[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]
 
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Semantics. She grew up in WV. Calls WV her home state, at least in the interview I saw. The quote speaks for itself.
Fake News from the alt-right deceptive media. Obviously no one checked their facts or even attempted to verify.*

"Garner is a West Virginia native who has been on the board of Save the Children, a nonprofit that focuses on implementing education programs in poor rural communities."


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/28/j...lfilling-his-campaign-promises/#ixzz4a1DIVi55












*I'm joking with you!
 

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It seems she sincerely wants to help folks back home and is willing to work with a man she campaigned against to do so. Seems pretty honorable to me. But to libs, she's a suck up. WOW.
You have a very strange habit of attributing one singular comment or incident to millions of people ("libs", "lefties"). Surely you're not really THAT stupid. Is just that you have no other argument or valid comment unless it's an imaginary extreme to respond to?
 

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[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]

Tell me you are just acting this stupid. Irrelevant? The chart shows the network of gas lines already in place in this country, the ones you said "were a couple years away".
You do know they transport gas by rail, truck and barge as well as pipeline? You also know they can change from gas phase to liquid phase?

You obviously don't understand that you don't have to have a cracker plant to extract gas. The cracker plant is used to take advantage of obtaining the ethylene from the extraction.

[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]
They can't change gas from gas to liquid form while they take it out of the ground. Where did I say that there had to be a cracker plant to extract gas? That is just a strawman. They are not extracting the majority of the gas because they want to wait until the price of gas is higher and there are plants to process the gas and maximize their profit.

The rail, truck and barge argument is comical. Are they building rail lines up to the well head? Maybe they are bringing barges into the hills of WV and PA? The major pipeline project to move the gas from the ground to the market are still not in place and they are just now being built.
 
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Where did I say that there had to be a cracker plant to extract gas?

That has been one the pillars of your argument. You have argued they aren't extracting gas because there are no cracker plants, which is false and I have demonstrated.

Remember me providing quantities by year for gas extraction in Ohio alone?

Then you argued they can't transport it, so they are not extracting it. You are wrong again. Antero has agreed to provide 30,000 barrels a day for this cracker plant if built.
http://wvpublic.org/post/antero-supply-proposed-wva-cracker-plant

Using your logic, there is no way to get it there. Geez, what will they do? [laughing][laughing][laughing]

Any more fake arguments why they aren't extracting gas from the ground?

You did read the two articles I provided in this thread showing coal-fired plants shutting down because of cheap natural gas? One of which was the largest plant west of the Mississippi River.

Want to keep blaming the boogey man Obama and the EPA for the demise of coal?

[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]

You really shouldn't argue about stuff that you have no f'ucking clue.
 

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Then you argued they can't transport it, so they are not extracting it. You are wrong again. Antero has agreed to provide 30,000 barrels a day for this cracker plant if built.
http://wvpublic.org/post/antero-supply-proposed-wva-cracker-plant

You are kinda making my point here. They have the volume of gas in the ground and if they have somewhere to process it they will. If that cracker plant is built, Anterro will build what they need to build to get gas to the market.
 

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You did read the two articles I provided in this thread showing coal-fired plants shutting down because of cheap natural gas? One of which was the largest plant west of the Mississippi River.
What does anything west of the Mississippi have to do with this debate? They are not using gas from this region. You have still yet to point to all the gas powered plants that are taking away from the demand on WV Coal.
 

dave

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That has been one the pillars of your argument. You have argued they aren't extracting gas because there are no cracker plants, which is false and I have demonstrated.
Where did you demonstrate this is false? You are the one who claimed to be the expert. Your argument was that Cadiz is open so there is a market to sell all the gas. Cadiz can process 60 million CF of gas a day. There are over a thousand wells in western PA and probably over 100 that can produce that much gas a day. Where is it all going? It's not. Most of it is being held in the ground.
 

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Where did you demonstrate this is false? You are the one who claimed to be the expert. Your argument was that Cadiz is open so there is a market to sell all the gas. Cadiz can process 60 million CF of gas a day. There are over a thousand wells in western PA and probably over 100 that can produce that much gas a day. Where is it all going? It's not. Most of it is being held in the ground.

What he has refused to acknowledge (and I shared two separate reports on coal fired power plant closures due to EPA regs) is that a lot of coal plants were shuttered by regulation.

Utilities had enormous capital investment in these plants. They wouldn't abandon the plants, invest huge new sums in capital in new gas fired plants/turbines unless there was a very compelling difference in the long term cost of the fuel source that would offset the capital investment needed for the new plants and the capital needed to shutter the old ones. Those coal fired plants had lives of decades.

Gas would certainly have taken up some of coal's market share, particularly for new generation, but not nearly as much nor as quickly. Facts are stubborn things.