ACA v2.0--will it pass?
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I want them to actually address health care costs and not insurance costs.
I do think that pushing HSA's is a better way to go.
Opinion:
Although the Constitution doesn't guarantee any rights to free health care, I agree, get something done and get it right. Not everybody is ever going to be happy. As it looks right now, it seems Democrats should be on board, but they aren't likely to do a damn thing until 2018 if what's left of the party decides to earn their paychecks. The majority party should make it more Rand friendly or whatever is necessary and move on to tax cuts.
Right...I hope unlike the first time that they put this through the works and not just push something through.
This first draft is a disaster. It has no chance. The GOP has no interest in providing health care to all Will they repeal the ACA and pass something? Yes, I think they will. Will it be something that helps the majority of Americans in getting healthcare at a decent price. Not a chance.
It's unpopular among both parties. It doesn't seriously address spending, it keeps the requirement of insuring despite prior health conditions, it drops the mandate and the penalty. I'm curious to see how the CBO rates the cost, but it strikes me as being very expensive, on part with what we have. It will also reduce the number of insured people, so we don't get a lot for the money spent. Costs have to be addressed, but no one wants to do that. It disturbs the gravy train, I mean free speech of the medical lobbies and pharmaceutical companies.
it's currently 66 pages compared to the 900+ page obamadisaster...
it WILL get changed... which is what everyone wants...
not some pos obamalie that no one wanted or had the opportunity to change...
it WILL get changed... which is what everyone wants...
not some pos obamalie that no one wanted or had the opportunity to change...
I listened to a radio story that stated that Kentucky got $2.5B with the expansion of Medicaid...hospitals that were on the verge of bankruptcy were reinvigorated, etc. That manner of payment will likely go away with this new plan. I know that governors don't get a vote but it will be an issue.
I'm not sure the goal of this plan has ever been made public. I know Biff said things like 'cheaper and better' but he's a simpleton.
They increased the age ratio from 3:1 to 5:1. That ratio determines the max difference based on age you can charge for the same coverage. For example, if I charge a 20-year old $2k for plan x, I can't charge a 64-year old more than $10k for plan x. They offset that some by increasing tax credits as people get older. The tax credits don't make much of a dent in the cost of insurance though.
Also, if you let coverage lapse (uninsured for more than 63 days) then need insurance for anow existing condition, you get hit with a one year 30% bump on your rate. That's supposed to be the incentive to stay insured, and the incentive for young and healthy to be insured. The problem is that the penalty isn't nearly as expensive as insurance. If I can save $10k only to later find it need insurance, I'm only taking a hit of $3k to get it. Much like Obamacare, the penalty doesn't scare people who don't feel like they need or can afford insurance.
Yes, Trump, his supporters, his apologists are all simpleltons. Part of the problem. They are such simpletons, they are bragging how great it is and there are zero costs projected nor it has gone through the cbo process.
I guess important details don't matter when everything is agenda and partisan driven.
Medicaid expansion was great for states in the short term, with the federal government picking up 100% of the cost, but as we approach 2020 that starts to decline, with states responsible for picking up the difference. And in a state like this, where we have a balanced budget amendment and are facing a significant deficit, that extra cost may be insurmountable.
LOL you're such a fvcktard...I haven't seen many people bragging about this new ACA bill...in fact quite the opposite if you believe the limited media I have watched/listened to.
Guess you missed Trump, Ryan and McConnell public statements. Not surprising as you are a proven simpleton yourself.
LOL @ U fvcktard...that's a whopping 3 people you got on your list there...whooo fvcking hooo...now give us a count of how many people DON'T like...I bet it will be more than three...what fvcking dumbass you continue yourself to be. LOL - saying there are people tripping over themselves to support this new ACA.
Try Google - https://news.google.com/news/story?...ved=0ahUKEwin8KGrkcfSAhXE8CYKHVtUBtYQqgIIKDAA
They are the leaders and main spokesmen of the gop, moron.
Go play with your coloring books or something that is on your level of intellect.
It's isn't 100% funded by the fed. It's between 50 & 70% depending on the need in the state. That means 70% in WV & KY. Anyone who enrolls between now and 1 Jan 2020 is grandfathered in. What changes in 2020 is that you go from a percentage of cost to a flat amount per person. States can still opt into the ACA funding until 2020 also. That's assuming that they don't opt to extend the current program past 2020 since that's an election year.
You said - Trump, his supporters, his apologists...and then listed three people. There are more than three (quite a few actually) that do not like this current ACA 2.0. It's not that hard to see gramps...are you familiar with Google?
The problem is, once you start offering an "entitlement" you're never going to be able to take it away.
Agreed. I think that part of this proposal is window dressing. They won't cut a program like that with a presidential election on the horizon.