Acaden lewis with 20 and 8

[Damage_inc]

Those guys are struggling too and it’s not like Lowe hasn't had those numbers.

Lewis isn’t the answer to our problems, he would just be another guy on this team that is struggling.

This team has enough talent, it's just broken and the coach doesn't know what to do to fix it.

I could not disagree more on your second point. We are looking at not having Lowe going forward possibly. That makes Aberdeen our new PG. Lowe is the only PG on the team because Lewis didn’t want to compete. We would be exponentially better if Lewis were here to
Run the point.

 

[Artlaibesghost]

Somehow out of all the freshman that comitted to us, the best one isnt even on our team bc pope wanted to pay 3 mil for aberdeen

That's BS, Lewis is a point guard. He didn't want to compete for minutes with Lowe and Johnson. Pope had very little to do with that decision. He went somewhere he was guaranteed a starting spot. That's never been how UK does things

 

[K_TIME]

Those guys are struggling too and it’s not like Lowe hasn't had those numbers.

Lewis isn’t the answer to our problems, he would just be another guy on this team that is struggling.

This team has enough talent, it's just broken and the coach doesn't know what to do to fix it.

Seriously?

Lowe was shooting 38% snd 21% from 3pt land ….snd his defense is crap ….and this mirrors his Pitt numbers. It was never the narrative “he is surrounded by poor players “…dude just is a bad shooter and bad defender

Acaden Lewis is shooting 50% snd 26% feom 3pt but his 5 *** to 1.6 To.

Simply put….Pope made a colossal mistake in taking Lowe which scared off Lewis….and many were not happy when the Lowe deal was done.

we’d be a ton better with Lewis vs Lowe regardless of injury

 

[kyjeff1]

I could not disagree more on your second point. We are looking at not having Lowe going forward possibly. That makes Aberdeen our new PG. Lowe is the only PG on the team because Lewis didn’t want to compete. We would be exponentially better if Lewis were here to
Run the point.

What makes you think Lewis is that good? He's not a special talent. It’s not like we're talking about Mikel Brown here, AL was a 4 star out of high school. In the long run, DA is going to be the better get, especially if what we saw last night is how the team plays going forward.

Also, Jasper Johnson is easily capable of running the point, he needs more reps.

Would I love to have AL on this team, sure, but the players weren't the problem here, it was the system and a broken locker room. Also, Acaden quit, he left, because he didn't want to compete.

 

[kyjeff1]

Seriously?

Lowe was shooting 38% snd 21% from 3pt land ….snd his defense is crap ….and this mirrors his Pitt numbers. It was never the narrative “he is surrounded by poor players “…dude just is a bad shooter and bad defender

Acaden Lewis is shooting 50% snd 26% feom 3pt but his 5 *** to 1.6 To.

Simply put….Pope made a colossal mistake in taking Lowe which scared off Lewis….and many were not happy when the Lowe deal was done.

we’d be a ton better with Lewis vs Lowe regardless of injury

So, you think a 4* high school kid should have just been given the keys? Even Cal isn’t that stupid.

 

[Damage_inc]

What makes you think Lewis is that good? He's not a special talent. It’s not like we're talking about Mikel Brown here, AL was a 4 star out of high school. In the long run, DA is going to be the better get, especially if what we saw last night is how the team plays going forward.

Also, Jasper Johnson is easily capable of running the point, he needs more reps.

Would I love to have AL on this team, sure, but the players weren't the problem here, it was the system and a broken locker room. Also, Acaden quit, he left, because he didn't want to compete.

Lewis is a pg. DA and JJ are both shooting guards. You don’t think we would be a better team with Lewis at point guard? Have you watched us play without Lowe? I can’t believe this is even an argument. If Lewis had nutted up a stayed here then we probably have 2 less losses at least. DA can’t run the show and JJ isn’t ready for it

this is a team with only 1 PG. that’s criminal.

 

[kyjeff1]

Lewis is a pg. DA and JJ are both shooting guards. You don’t think we would be a better team with Lewis at point guard? Have you watched us play without Lowe? I can’t believe this is even an argument. If Lewis had nutted up a stayed here then we probably have 2 less losses at least. DA can’t run the show and JJ isn’t ready for it

this is a team with only 1 PG. that’s criminal.

We just had 21 assists without Lowe last night.

It’s amazing what happens when a coach runs the correct offense.

Would AL make us better? Hell, I don't know, he's a 4 star high school kid and up until last night, this team was broken. Maybe we turned a corner last night, if we did, this would be a time where having Lewis would be a benefit.

But he quit, he's the one that didn't want to compete with one other point guard, so I'm not going to lose sleep over him not being here, it was his choice to punk out.

Against ranked teams, AL's stats are:

BYU: 5pts 3ast 1TO
Michigan: 11pts 3ast 2TO's (lost by 28)
Wisc: 7pts 2ast 0TO's

Wisconsin isn’t ranked, but that was the only other decent team they have played. Villanova's schedule is terrible, definitely not close to as tough as what we have played.

 

[CatBearPig]

Jasper could possibly be thriving under another coach, I suspect we'll find out next year as I don't personally see him sticking around Kentucky another year with Pope

Jasper is light years from being a high end player. I’m not saying he can’t get there but he’s selfish and mistake prone. I hope he stays but if he leaves it won’t change our fortunes much next season.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Jasper is light years from being a high end player. I’m not saying he can’t get there but he’s selfish and mistake prone. I hope he stays but if he leaves it won’t change our fortunes much next season.

I’m a Jasper “basher” but I thought he showed some promise last night. Started using a few more dribble moves than earlier — had a pretty nice in and out move at one point in the second half that put a defender on skates, he also is learning to snake dribble and keep defender on hips. He’s still raw but he’s improving and I’ll eat 25% of a crow. If he had scored zero points, I still would be satisfied with the progression I saw. We need him to keep working.

 

[CatBearPig]

I’m a Jasper “basher” but I thought he showed some promise last night. Started using a few more dribble moves than earlier — had a pretty nice in and out move at one point in the second half that put a defender on skates, he also is learning to snake dribble and keep defender on hips. He’s still raw but he’s improving and I’ll eat 25% of a crow. If he had scored zero points, I still would be satisfied with the progression I saw. We need him to keep working.

I missed last night so I can’t comment. I hope he improves and becomes the guy he can be. I just havnt seen anything that resembles a legit starting SEC SG at this point.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

I missed last night so I can’t comment. I hope he improves and becomes the guy he can be. I just havnt seen anything that resembles a legit starting SEC SG at this point.

I’ve been beyond frustrated with him. I still am by and large, but hoping he ends up proving I was a moron. Otherwise it’ll be, as another poster said days ago:

KY Til I Transfer

 

[kyjeff1]

Jasper is light years from being a high end player. I’m not saying he can’t get there but he’s selfish and mistake prone. I hope he stays but if he leaves it won’t change our fortunes much next season.

If his only issues are selfish play and mistake prone (not sure his mistakes are any different than anyone elses), then he isn’t light years away.

Jasper has far more positives to his game than negatives. He can beat good defenders off the bounce and he can shoot. If he just focused on getting assists and taking shots that make sense, he would be a huge asset this year. These things seem easily fixable to me.

 

[K_TIME]

So, you think a 4* high school kid should have just been given the keys? Even Cal isn’t that stupid.

Not for a crap acc person with two years of eligibility

 

[AllBall]

Somehow out of all the freshman that comitted to us, the best one isnt even on our team bc pope wanted to pay 3 mil for aberdeen

Not Aberdeen. That was much later. Pope went after Lowe as his first portal target and ran Lewis off.
Should have kept Lewis and brought in an experienced suitable backup.

 

[AllBall]

Back channel him for next season. Tell him the starting job is his but we'll have a backup. If he isn't okay with that and 1.25-1.5 mil then move along.

 

[kyjeff1]

Not for a crap acc person with two years of eligibility

Neither one is the caliber of pg we should have, especially when we see Mikel Brown suiting up for little brother.
It's the most important position on the court.

 

[kyjeff1]

Not Aberdeen. That was much later. Pope went after Lowe as his first portal target and ran Lewis off.
Should have kept Lewis and brought in an experienced suitable backup.

I mean, Lowe isn’t all that great, how much lower quality do we want in a back up and why would anyone roll the dice on a 4 star high school kid as your primary pg?

 

[Damage_inc]

We just had 21 assists without Lowe last night.

It’s amazing what happens when a coach runs the correct offense.

Would AL make us better? Hell, I don't know, he's a 4 star high school kid and up until last night, this team was broken. Maybe we turned a corner last night, if we did, this would be a time where having Lewis would be a benefit.

But he quit, he's the one that didn't want to compete with one other point guard, so I'm not going to lose sleep over him not being here, it was his choice to punk out.

Against ranked teams, AL's stats are:

BYU: 5pts 3ast 1TO
Michigan: 11pts 3ast 2TO's (lost by 28)
Wisc: 7pts 2ast 0TO's

Wisconsin isn’t ranked, but that was the only other decent team they have played. Villanova's schedule is terrible, definitely not close to as tough as what we have played.

I am not getting in the weeds on stats. All I’m saying is 1 PG > 0 PG. Lewis should have been our back up pg because god forbid if Lowe got hurt. Pope should have done more to keep Lewis here.

 

[kyjeff1]

I am not getting in the weeds on stats. All I’m saying is 1 PG > 0 PG. Lewis should have been our back up pg because god forbid if Lowe got hurt. Pope should have done more to keep Lewis here.

How do you know Pope didn’t do everything possible? Lewis quit, that's on him.
However, Pope should have picked up another pg out of the portal, he really messed up there.

 

[SkyPrince]

I kean, Lowe isn’t all that great, how much lower quality do we want in a back up and why would anyone roll the dice on a 4 star high school kid as your primary pg?

Just one of those things.
Lewis has outplayed his ranking.
Talk is cheap with NIL in the picture.
No way your going to convince a player that there is on open competition for a starting spot when one players NIL contract doubles the other.
Lewis and his family bet on themselves in that he was too good to be a backup.
He went to VU and has thrived.
Hindsight is 20/20 but Acaden is the better player of the two( Lowe).
Pope is the opposite of Cal in that he trusts the portal more that HS players.

 

[kyjeff1]

Just one of those things.
Lewis has outplayed his ranking.
Talk is cheap with NIL in the picture.
No way your going to convince a player that there is on open competition for a starting spot when one players NIL contract doubles the other.
Lewis and his family bet on themselves in that he was too good to be a backup.
He went to VU and has thrived.
Hindsight is 20/20 but Acaden is the better player of the two( Lowe).
Pope is the opposite of Cal in that he trusts the portal more that HS players.

I honestly don't think Acaden is better than Lowe. He's only played 2 ranked teams and really didn’t do that well against either of them. Anyone can ball out against bad competition.

But still, if you are confident in your game, you should try to win the starting spot and if he listened to Pope, he would know that he most likely would have played 18+ minutes per game. That's a pretty good deal when you're a 4* kid.

Now look at him, he's at Villanova and I have yet to see them on any major network. UK gives these guys a very well lit stage.

 

[K_TIME]

Neither one is the caliber of pg we should have, especially when we see Mikel Brown suiting up for little brother.
It's the most important position on the court.

When Lowe shot so badly as a sophomore…there was no reason to bring him on board and then risk losing acaden…this bad of a season from Lowe is a repeat of the year before Ky…dumb decision

 

[SkyPrince]

I honestly don't think Acaden is better than Lowe. He's only played 2 ranked teams and really didn’t do that well against either of them. Anyone can ball out against bad competition.

But still, if you are confident in your game, you should try to win the starting spot and if he listened to Pope, he would know that he most likely would have played 18+ minutes per game. That's a pretty good deal when you're a 4* kid.

Now look at him, he's at Villanova and I have yet to see them on any major network. UK gives these guys a very well lit stage.

Your right about Villanova thats why I don't think he will be there next year.
He's either in the draft or in the portal and if so probably will be at UCONN or Arizona.

 

[kyjeff1]

When Lowe shot so badly as a sophomore…there was no reason to bring him on board and then risk losing acaden…this bad of a season from Lowe is a repeat of the year before Ky…dumb decision

I know Pope wants to handle all aspects of the job, but he really needs to deligate and listen to others, because his player evaluation is very suspect.
He did put all his eggs in the Jalen Lowe basket and that might be the fatal flaw of this team.

 

[AJG-15]

Acaden , JJ and MM together made sense. His family needed money , which Pope prioritized somewhere else. I said at that time that was a mistake and that we needed a second PG.

Pope thought that Aberdeen and Chandler can play back up PG. So far that assumption didn’t pan out. With Lowe out , that assumption will include now JJ.


in theory without Lowe we are bigger and better defensively. If JJ and Aberdeen start making better decisions this might work.

would loved to have a true PG , liked Acaden but oh well…..

 

[HipTer]

I honestly don't think Acaden is better than Lowe. He's only played 2 ranked teams and really didn’t do that well against either of them. Anyone can ball out against bad competition.

But still, if you are confident in your game, you should try to win the starting spot and if he listened to Pope, he would know that he most likely would have played 18+ minutes per game. That's a pretty good deal when you're a 4* kid.

Now look at him, he's at Villanova and I have yet to see them on any major network. UK gives these guys a very well lit stage.

Lewis was not better than a healthy Lowe, and I was as big a Lewis fan as anybody in our fanbase. I believe that he would have been a great option as PG2 (PG1 in waiting). And if he actually vaulted over Lowe and became the starter, so be it. But I thought he was the best high school PG for UK skill-wise and because of what I thought he could be that Sophomore year.

 

[SkyPrince]

Lewis was not better than a healthy Lowe, and I was as big a Lewis fan as anybody in our fanbase. I believe that he would have been a great option as PG2 (PG1 in waiting). And if he actually vaulted over Lowe and became the starter, so be it. But I thought he was the best high school PG for UK skill-wise and because of what I thought he could be that Sophomore year.

When comparing the two, the eye test says it all.
Acaden is physically superior to Lowe.
Acaden is also a much better passer and his court vision is on another level.
Scoring is Lowe's biggest attribute as a player.
He's not a good shooter but has a knack for getting the ball in the hole.
All his other skills are average to below average plus body and athletic wise, he's all he's ever going to be.
I compare Lewis' situation to Tyler Herro.
Herro was improving at a rate to where he was too good to go to Wisconsin and be a system player.
I'm sure Lewis and his family thought he had progressed to a level where he was too good to back up an average PG like Lowe.

 

[#1 cat fan]

The 2 big issues this season were Jasper not being the 12 pg guy we needed him to be , and Lowe being injured. You could see early on in the scrimmages guys didn't know what to do on offense. We were missing a guard that could start the offense and another that could make plays

 

[Delk4three]

Those guys are struggling too and it’s not like Lowe hasn't had those numbers.

Lewis isn’t the answer to our problems, he would just be another guy on this team that is struggling.

This team has enough talent, it's just broken and the coach doesn't know what to do to fix it.

Honestly, last years team felt a lot more thought out as far as personnel and how they fit together. This years team feels like it was thrown together in a month, with no real thought other than just trying to get as much talent as possible.

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

When Lowe shot so badly as a sophomore…there was no reason to bring him on board and then risk losing acaden…this bad of a season from Lowe is a repeat of the year before Ky…dumb decision

this will sound dramatic but i will honestly be devastated if lowe comes back here to be pg1 next season. hated the signing at the time, hate it now. had very high hopes for Acaden and now instead we get to see Lowe shoot us out of games like he did at Mizzou. Great. Thanks. (and that's when he's healthy, which is rare)
he's the same guy who sucked at pitt. he is so not a UK caliber point guard.
and for a guy who can't shoot at all, he's a ballhog

Signing him to be a major contributor was the first sign that this season might be bad, imo. Him being one of your "studs" means you aren't serious about winning.

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

When comparing the two, the eye test says it all.
Acaden is physically superior to Lowe.
Acaden is also a much better passer and his court vision is on another level.
Scoring is Lowe's biggest attribute as a player.
He's not a good shooter but has a knack for getting the ball in the hole.
All his other skills are average to below average plus body and athletic wise, he's all he's ever going to be.
I compare Lewis' situation to Tyler Herro.
Herro was improving at a rate to where he was too good to go to Wisconsin and be a system player.
I'm sure Lewis and his family thought he had progressed to a level where he was too good to back up an average PG like Lowe.

and they were correct

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

Honestly, last years team felt a lot more thought out as far as personnel and how they fit together. This years team feels like it was thrown together in a month, with no real thought other than just trying to get as much talent as possible.

right...so he had much more time to put together the team and the team is significantly worse.
what does that say about mark pope?

 

[K_TIME]

I honestly don't think Acaden is better than Lowe. He's only played 2 ranked teams and really didn’t do that well against either of them. Anyone can ball out against bad competition.

But still, if you are confident in your game, you should try to win the starting spot and if he listened to Pope, he would know that he most likely would have played 18+ minutes per game. That's a pretty good deal when you're a 4* kid.

Now look at him, he's at Villanova and I have yet to see them on any major network. UK gives these guys a very well lit stage.

Well shooting 50% fg and 28% 3pt with 5 *** to 1.6To is sure hell better

this will sound dramatic but i will honestly be devastated if lowe comes back here to be pg1 next season. hated the signing at the time, hate it now. had6th very high hopes for Acaden and now instead we get to see Lowe shoot us out of games like he did at Mizzou. Great. Thanks. (and that's when he's healthy, which is rare)
he's the same guy who sucked at pitt. he is so not a UK caliber point guard.
and for a guy who can't shoot at all, he's a ballhog

Signing him to be a major contributor was the first sign that this season might be bad, imo. Him being one of your "studs" means you aren't serious about winning.

Exaclty.....Lowe is sunk cost now. Push him off the roster...or at best case let him be 6th man off bench to be super scorer....as he for dang sure gets up shots. But he can't be a starter or play over 15 min to be a good team. He's Savhir Wheeler-ish.

 

[Delk4three]

right...so he had much more time to put together the team and the team is significantly worse.
what does that say about mark pope?

Nothing good, honestly. "If" Pope is here next year, he has to get rid of most this team and start over. This team hasn't felt like a "team" from game 1. If 3 point shooting and having the offense run through a big, you need both of those things. We have neither on this team, and this far into the season it feels like no "roles" have really been set.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

Mashburn shot 36.7% from a closer (19'9") 3 pt line his junior year. Did you think he couldn't shoot?

Ok, y’all got me.

When DA shoots a 3 none of y’all cringe and say NO!!!

You just know it’s going in like the ball leaving Lamb’s, Quickley’s, Knight’s or Murray’s hand.

Tell that walking!

 

[Anon477434]

He would average 8 minutes a game here.

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Ok, y’all got me.

When DA shoots a 3 none of y’all cringe and say NO!!!

You just know it’s going in like the ball leaving Lamb’s, Quickley’s, Knight’s or Murray’s hand.

Tell that walking!

It's not as important how it looks or how it makes you feel as it is the rate at which it goes in.

 

[paulcalhoun_rivals397471]

Has something changed here. Have the free forums been disabled or something? I can get here and post through my post history but I can't get to wildcat lair thread page. Does the Paddock still exist?

 

[UKSanders]

Has something changed here. Have the free forums been disabled or something? I can get here and post through my post history but I can't get to wildcat lair thread page. Does the Paddock still exist?

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