I get what you mean, man. I'm with you. But like I said earlier, in most people's attempts to make teachers realize that our jobs aren't the only ones with hardships, it comes off as belittling and disrespectful (not unlike your response). Thus why some teachers complain. It's a vicious cycle with no real fix.
According to a tweet from Jeff Hoover the new state budget gives state employees a raise except teachers.....
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This is kinda where I'm at. Teachers do have a difficult job.....like many, many, many jobs. I wouldn't want to deal with kids that aren't mine all day, every day.......but there are a lot of benefits as well. But it's very difficult to bring up the pros/cons without someone getting defensive or coming across like a jerk.
I meant most teachers don’t use their sick days. My wife’s school has a drawing on the last day for anyone who didn’t miss a day. She has been in it several years, including one year it came down to her and 1 other teacher. She of course lost
Would like to reiterate, I'm generally in the middle. Teaching is an extremely important job for any society to succeed. I'd be fine if we paid them 30-50k more, of our tax money.. PROVIDED that we weed out the bad ones, the lazy tenured teacher, the ones who just aren't cutting it.. like any job. If you implement politics into the classroom, you're out. Teaching sexuality to 2nd graders, you're also out.
As for teachers complaining, the way I see it: Teachers are professional/career students and have a bit of a warped sense of how things work. Teachers have spent their entire lives in the education system. They've likely never seen anything else. Compared to the rest of us who did K-12, many of which did another 4 years of college, and then went on to the working world in some regard. For the rest of us, we've seen how things operate on both ends. I think teachers don't understand that we know more about the education system then they realize.. while they know less about the "working world" than they realize.
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This is incorrect on so many levels I’m just going to ignore it.
I’m not sure if that’s still the case or not, honestly. It used to be that you could claim that upon retirement. Bevin, et al. tried to make a change back in the day.
OK, the sick days not taken accumulate as pay till they retire. So they get them in the end. If teacher has operation that lays them up for a month, I bet they take that year's & some accumulated.
Keep my momma's name out yo m***a f***in mouth
That sweet woman deserves every last Penny she’s ever made, and she put up with your degenerate *** on top of it
You can also “donate” days I think if a coworker has a serious condition and has to miss a lot of time. Unless that has changed.
So you have something to do/read when you should be teaching.
100% a lie as usual. They get a plethora of sick days. Tons of them compared to other careers.
For most people they get a nebulous "pto" set of hours that has to go for vacation and sick days.
Not to mention the unusually rich retirement package especially when factored for age.
Also let's not forget once the get tenured (in public schools that's just based on years of service) they literally can't be fired short of doing something completely outrageous.
When the entire picture is examined, it's a very nice career given the perks, protection, and time off.
Paying more, if possible, would improve the competition in the market. I knew people in college who would have made wonderful teachers, but passed because of the pay.
I wish I had only had to go to school for 6 hours growing up.
Teachers are like most professions......most workers don't use their sick days or PTO to their fullest extent. I work in medicine. I get roughly 8.3 hrs of PTO per 40 hr/work week. We are salary and don't get paid or given PTO for overtime. I routinely have 6-8 wks of PTO banked up because I don't take off. I would have more, but they force us to cash out enough to keep us below a certain amount. This is normal across most professions or coworkers that I know.
Now, that being said, our job is year round and outside of federal holidays, we don't have built in non-work periods like Fall/Spring breaks, Christmas, Summer....
Now, that being said, our job is year round and outside of federal holidays, we don't have built in non-work periods like Fall/Spring breaks, Christmas, Summer....
Being allowed to take 10 days and taking 10 days isn't the same thing.
So when are they doing all the grading and lesson planning if they don't work when they don't have class? That's not even considering the fact that in many places, teachers have had to get rid of their planning period and take on another class because of teacher shortages.
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I said they only take a couple of sick days, not that they don’t get them.
At the end of the day, teaching is a good job. It has amazing benefits (better than most jobs), great perks, lots of time off, and the most powerful union in the world advocating for them. Just quit acting like you’re a coal miner/trauma surgeon and no one has any issues. That’s really all.
Teachers don't take time off during their rigorous 8-9 month work year? Wonder why there are such things as substitue teachers then?
One whole time you had to do that? My goodness why isn't their a Lifetime movie about this?
Thought they didn't take time off? Seems to be some inconsistency in your statement.
So which one is you and which one is me?They already did
Did you read the part that said “maybe a couple of sick days”. The teachers you had at Evarts failed you.
Hell I figured you guys over there all sent your kids to private school. If for nothing else to brag about it.
I can only speak for FCPS, but teachers are not generally the issue. The issues are all housed at that fancy building on Park Place, Central Office.