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HOLY SMOKES. ActBlue just PLED THE 5TH and REFUSED to answer about getting foreign donations infiltrating US politics on behalf of Democrats She wouldn't even refute getting RUSSIAN money!
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ActBlue is a FRAUD group. Shut it down! REP. JIM JORDAN: Your board chairman said ActBlue accepted up to 38 million contributions in 2024 that had the signs of foreign origin. How much fraud is too much fraud? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: How many foreign contributions did ActBlue accept? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: How much money did ActBlue accept from Russia? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: Why did your entire legal team quit? Your in-house legal team? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: Did your legal team quit because of reduced fraud standards? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: We won't keep you here all day, but let me just do one more. Did you weaken your fraud standards to help Democrats? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Absolutely insane.
 

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Ironic how these rodents now hide behind the very Constitution they actively worked to undermine and ultimately tried to destroy. šŸ™„

Charge them, prosecute them, and cut off all sources of their funding.(then stick them with the bill for their prosecution/convictions. 😔
 

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MUST WATCH: ACTBLUE CEO TAKES THE FIFTH... SIX TIMES.
@Jim_Jordan
shut down claims that the hearing was a "charade" with one brutal fact: "ACTBlue's own legal counsel said she lied to Congress." Then he asked six simple questions. How much fraud is too much fraud? How much money came from Russia? Did you weaken fraud standards to help Democrats? Her answer every single time: "I respectfully decline to answer..."
 

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Ironic how these rodents now hide behind the very Constitution they actively worked to undermine and ultimately tried to destroy. šŸ™„

Charge them, prosecute them, and cut off all sources of their funding.(then stick them with the bill for their prosecution/convictions. 😔


She even plead the 5th on taking money from Russia.
 

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These hearings are so F'n stupid. It is never about getting to the truth.

It is all about the politicians getting their 30 second soundbites for the internet.


They are under investigation by the DOJ and Treasury Department.





The part where he said the DOJ was conducting a separate investigation was good information. The Democrats taking money from foreign countries to get Democrats elected was good too. From what I've seen from Democrats China, Russia, and Iran are probably on that list.
 

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The part where he said the DOJ was conducting a separate investigation was good information. The Democrats taking money from foreign countries to get Democrats elected was good too. From what I've seen from Democrats China, Russia, and Iran are probably on that list.
I agree. I have just seen this garbage happen in Washington for so long and no politicians ever seem to be held accountable.

Until consequences happen, it is all just theater.
 

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I agree. I have just seen this garbage happen in Washington for so long and no politicians ever seem to be held accountable.

Until consequences happen, it is all just theater.
Like yelling and screaming at your kids and expecting them to listen cause mommy yelled and lectured.
 
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HOLY SMOKES. ActBlue just PLED THE 5TH and REFUSED to answer about getting foreign donations infiltrating US politics on behalf of Democrats She wouldn't even refute getting RUSSIAN money!
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ActBlue is a FRAUD group. Shut it down! REP. JIM JORDAN: Your board chairman said ActBlue accepted up to 38 million contributions in 2024 that had the signs of foreign origin. How much fraud is too much fraud? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: How many foreign contributions did ActBlue accept? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: How much money did ActBlue accept from Russia? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: Why did your entire legal team quit? Your in-house legal team? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: Did your legal team quit because of reduced fraud standards? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. JORDAN: We won't keep you here all day, but let me just do one more. Did you weaken your fraud standards to help Democrats? ACTBLUE: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Absolutely insane.

There is an active DOJ investigation. Jordan knows this. He also knows they can’t answer, hence why he’s asking the questions. It’s a soundbite and nothing more.

The DOJ has to indict and put their butts in trial. And it needs to happen yesterday. Accountability, I’ve yet to see a single ounce of it occur.
 

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There is an active DOJ investigation. Jordan knows this. He also knows they can’t answer, hence why he’s asking the questions. It’s a soundbite and nothing more.

The DOJ has to indict and put their butts in trial. And it needs to happen yesterday. Accountability, I’ve yet to see a single ounce of it occur.

Now everyone knows there's a DOJ investigation and yes they could have answered some questions. The one about taking money from Russia should have been easy.
 

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I agree. I have just seen this garbage happen in Washington for so long and no politicians ever seem to be held accountable.

Until consequences happen, it is all just theater.

At least you didn't say nothing is happening.
 

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Now everyone knows there's a DOJ investigation and yes they could have answered some questions. The one about taking money from Russia should have been easy.
I don’t believe that’s the case. I understand it that as soon as they answer one question, the 5th amendment is waived and the door is wide open. SOCO could confirm this or now. I don’t think the 5th is electable under questioning, it’s all or none.
 
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I don’t believe that’s the case. I understand it that as soon as they answer one question, the 5th amendment is waived and the door is wide open. SOCO could confirm this or now. I don’t think the 5th is electable under questioning, it’s all or none.

You can answer questions then invoke the 5th at anytime. They are guilty as hell so a good lawyer should have told them to take the 5th. All the questions were rhetorical anyways as the members have done their own investigations as well as talked with the DOJ.

The Democrats have been taking money from Countries not considered our allies to get their candidates elected. Taking money from Russia after what they put Trump through is next level hypocrisy.
 

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The Democrats have been taking money from Countries not considered our allies to get their candidates elected. Taking money from Russia after what they put Trump through is next level hypocrisy.
The Southern Poverty Law Center says "hold my funding beer" 🤪

All these Leftists are so full of hypocritical caca, I don't understand why they're all not summarily dismissed for intellectual irrelevance. Want to know what really motivates the Left?

Follow the money. 🤨
 

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The Southern Poverty Law Center says "hold my funding beer" 🤪

All these Leftists are so full of hypocritical caca, I don't understand why they're all not summarily dismissed for intellectual irrelevance. Want to know what really motivates the Left?

Follow the money. 🤨

Money, Power, and unfortunately destroying the country.
 

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I don’t believe that’s the case. I understand it that as soon as they answer one question, the 5th amendment is waived and the door is wide open. SOCO could confirm this or now. I don’t think the 5th is electable under questioning, it’s all or none.
The Fifth Amendment right can be asserted on a question by question basis.
 

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The Fifth Amendment right can be asserted on a question by question basis.
Why would a witness invoke the 5th on simply confirming who they are? I heard a clip on Sirius Patriot Ch 125 where that Act Blue witness even refused to answer to her own identity! She sounded just like a pre-programmed chat bot (kinda like the Leftists who post on this forum) :rolleyes:
 
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Another way you know Democrats and a handful of Republicans are working with foreign countries to destroy us from within. Because the Democrats didn't have a problem with FISA when they abused it against Trump. After the reforms Trump conducted and knowing it could be used against them legally they all of a sudden are against it.










Now this man has a Grand Jury seated dealing with those that abused it and all of a sudden a certain group doesn't want it at all even though Trump says he needs it.

 
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Why would a witness invoke the 5th on simply confirming who they are? I heard a clip on Sirius Patriot Ch 125 where that Act Blue witness even refused to answer to her own identity! She sounded just like a pre-programmed chat bot (kinda like the Leftists who post on this forum) :rolleyes:
The Fifth Amendment only applies to questions that may result in answers that could lead to the jailable offenses for that witness.

I would have to see the question. "What is your name?" obviously would have to be answered but if they are asking to identify a person on a video who is committing felony, that could be an issue.
 

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The Fifth Amendment only applies to questions that may result in answers that could lead to the jailable offenses for that witness.

I would have to see the question. "What is your name?" obviously would have to be answered but if they are asking to identify a person on a video who is committing felony, that could be an issue.
Unless I mis heard the clip, she was asked specifically to validate how she wished to be addressed? (by name) She was asked which of two possible pronunciations did she prefer? She refused to answer by invoking the 5th.

Unreal.
 

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Another way you know Democrats and a handful of Republicans are working with foreign countries to destroy us from within. Because the Democrats didn't have a problem with FISA when they abused it against Trump. After the reforms Trump conducted and knowing it could be used against them legally they all of a sudden are against it.










Now this man has a Grand Jury seated dealing with those that abused it and all of a sudden a certain group doesn't want it at all even though Trump says he needs it.


I support Dems on this one.
 

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I support Dems on this one.

The Democrats working with Russia or the ones working with Iran? There's also the ones working with the CCP. I get Americans don't want spied on and they shouldn't be without real probable cause they are doing illegal stuff with foreign countries. However if they are working with ISIS or a similar group it's important to get ahead of that.

That goes for cartels too. So It would be better to put those in jail that abuse the process.
 

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The Democrats working with Russia or the ones working with Iran? There's also the ones working with the CCP. I get Americans don't want spied on and they shouldn't be without real probable cause they are doing illegal stuff with foreign countries. However if they are working with ISIS or a similar group it's important to get ahead of that.

That goes for cartels too. So It would be better to put those in jail that abuse the process.
I’m good with the Govt not having that kind of power over the US populace. It took about 5 years before the power was abused domestically so grossly that I still don’t understand how zero people went to jail for it. It took 10 years before it was used against a political opponent. 15 years before it was being abused against journalists (arguably, it was happening much earlier as well) and against whole political apparatus of the opposition.

The abuses of the power haven’t stopped. The whole Patriot act should go away, but FISA? 100% should go. If you’re a US Citizen you have inherent rights. The Govt shouldn’t get to cut corners regardless of the level of evil you’re doing. Nothing should be hidden in secret courts. FISA can screw right off.

Working with Iran, the CCP, Russia? Maybe focus on that kind of stuff through normal channels in the Bureau instead of them being used to target Christians, Parents, and people opposed to lockdowns and forced vaccinations. The manpower is there. They don’t need FISA and they shouldn’t have that kind of power.
 

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I’m good with the Govt not having that kind of power over the US populace. It took about 5 years before the power was abused domestically so grossly that I still don’t understand how zero people went to jail for it. It took 10 years before it was used against a political opponent. 15 years before it was being abused against journalists (arguably, it was happening much earlier as well) and against whole political apparatus of the opposition.

The abuses of the power haven’t stopped. The whole Patriot act should go away, but FISA? 100% should go. If you’re a US Citizen you have inherent rights. The Govt shouldn’t get to cut corners regardless of the level of evil you’re doing. Nothing should be hidden in secret courts. FISA can screw right off.

Working with Iran, the CCP, Russia? Maybe focus on that kind of stuff through normal channels in the Bureau instead of them being used to target Christians, Parents, and people opposed to lockdowns and forced vaccinations. The manpower is there. They don’t need FISA and they shouldn’t have that kind of power.

So you understand the tech companies are going to continue to do it right. But our Intelligence Agencies can't spy on foreigners that wish us serious harm? That's not reality. Like I said it would be best to charge those that abuse it. If you aren't communicating with those that are breaking the law overseas then you shouldn't have to be concerned. If you are then you deserve to have a closer look at. Being how the internet is how they communicate unless you plan on pulling the plug on that's how it needs to be. Americans have Constitutional rights. Our enemies don't. Not voting for Democrats assist in proper supervision. If we shut everything down because they broke the law we would have Anarchy.







JUST IN: President Trump nominates JAY CLAYTON for Director of National Intelligence after Bill Pulte was chosen as Acting DNI ā€œI am pleased to announce the Nomination of very Highly Respected Jay Clayton, former Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the former Head of Sullivan & Cromwell, one of the most prominent and successful Law Firms anywhere in the World, and the current United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, to be the next Director of National Intelligence and, importantly, to serve in my Cabinet.ā€ ā€œFew people anywhere in the Legal Community are respected at the level of Jay. I encourage the United States Senate to confirm Jay as soon as possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
 
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So you understand the tech companies are going to continue to do it right. But our Intelligence Agencies can't spy on foreigners that wish us serious harm? That's not reality. Like I said it would be best to charge those that abuse it. If you aren't communicating with those that are breaking the law overseas then you shouldn't have to be concerned. If you are then you deserve to have a closer look at. Being how the internet is how they communicate unless you plan on pulling the plug on that's how it needs to be. Americans have Constitutional rights. Our enemies don't. Not voting for Democrats assist in proper supervision. If we shut everything down because they broke the law we would have Anarchy.







JUST IN: President Trump nominates JAY CLAYTON for Director of National Intelligence after Bill Pulte was chosen as Acting DNI ā€œI am pleased to announce the Nomination of very Highly Respected Jay Clayton, former Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the former Head of Sullivan & Cromwell, one of the most prominent and successful Law Firms anywhere in the World, and the current United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, to be the next Director of National Intelligence and, importantly, to serve in my Cabinet.ā€ ā€œFew people anywhere in the Legal Community are respected at the level of Jay. I encourage the United States Senate to confirm Jay as soon as possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

FISA isn’t about spying on foreigners. The Agency, multiple of them, already do that. FISA isn’t used to surveil foreigners, it has absolutely nothing to do with foreigners.

FISA is about circumventing the constitution and standard due process to spy on US Citizens.

If it were legit, you wouldn’t have to lie the way you just did to try and make a case for it.
 

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FISA isn’t about spying on foreigners. The Agency, multiple of them, already do that. FISA isn’t used to surveil foreigners, it has absolutely nothing to do with foreigners.

FISA is about circumventing the constitution and standard due process to spy on US Citizens.

If it were legit, you wouldn’t have to lie the way you just did to try and make a case for it.

It has everything to do with foreign operations. If you are an American colluding with a foreign country doing something you shouldn't then you need unmasked and investigated. That takes probable cause and a Judge to make happen for a warrant. There needs to be strict oversight and anyone who abuses it by breaking the law should be held accountable.

If you are against being spied on you should be more concerned about some moron who has a website and administrative rights.





People like this getting unmasked get no sympathy. If you are trading food recipes with someone in Moscow and you get targeted that's a problem.




 
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It has everything to do with foreign operations. If you are an American colluding with a foreign country doing something you shouldn't then you need unmasked and investigated. That takes probable cause and a Judge to make happen for a warrant. There needs to be strict oversight and anyone who abuses it by breaking the law should be held accountable.

If you are against being spied on you should be more concerned about some moron who has a website and administrative rights.





People like this getting unmasked get no sympathy. If you are trading food recipes with someone in Moscow and you get targeted that's a problem.





But FISA is about the US citizen component. You know this, as your carefully crafted response even slipped up and acknowledged. Hahaha

I don’t agree with what Tech companies are doing, but the USG is specifically prohibited from doing what they’re doing and we’re protected from it.
 

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But FISA is about the US citizen component. You know this, as your carefully crafted response even slipped up and acknowledged. Hahaha

I don’t agree with what Tech companies are doing, but the USG is specifically prohibited from doing what they’re doing and we’re protected from it.

I understand how the process is suppose to work. I also understand why Steve Bannon wants it done away with and why he has been crying about on his podcast. Everyone can figure that out soon enough. It's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. To unmask an American Citizen there needs to be probable cause that laws are being broken. Just like Law Enforcement needs to show a Judge to do Surveillance on anyone else. The problem when they did this with Trump back in 2016 and others the Judge was rubber stamping it and not demanding hard probable cause. Like I said numerous times it's an important tool but they must be made to follow the laws and not rubber stamp the warrant.

Trump was a victim. However as the man responsible for National Security he is asking for it to be renewed. There's a good reason for that.

I gave a couple of examples of the kind of people caught with it living here. There are plenty more examples and our Foreign Enemies and those working with them want it gone. I would rather hold those accountable that abuse it.
 

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I understand how the process is suppose to work. I also understand why Steve Bannon wants it done away with and why he has been crying about on his podcast. Everyone can figure that out soon enough. It's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. To unmask an American Citizen there needs to be probable cause that laws are being broken. Just like Law Enforcement needs to show a Judge to do Surveillance on anyone else. The problem when they did this with Trump back in 2016 and others the Judge was rubber stamping it and not demanding hard probable cause. Like I said numerous times it's an important tool but they must be made to follow the laws and not rubber stamp the warrant.

Trump was a victim. However as the man responsible for National Security he is asking for it to be renewed. There's a good reason for that.

I gave a couple of examples of the kind of people caught with it living here. There are plenty more examples and our Foreign Enemies and those working with them want it gone. I would rather hold those accountable that abuse it.
I don’t listen to Bannon, no idea what he’s saying or wanting.

FISA is used against American citizens. Fact.

FBI to date, despite being mandated to do so, has not implemented a single reform to the process. They’re still able to abuse the process. Again, not a single person went to jail. Send some people to jail for violating the process and abusing the power. When they do that? We can talk about extending it. Until then, shut it down and work harder.
 

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I don’t listen to Bannon, no idea what he’s saying or wanting.

FISA is used against American citizens. Fact.

FBI to date, despite being mandated to do so, has not implemented a single reform to the process. They’re still able to abuse the process. Again, not a single person went to jail. Send some people to jail for violating the process and abusing the power. When they do that? We can talk about extending it. Until then, shut it down and work harder.

To target you for criminal investigation they have to get a warrant and they need probable cause of a crime to do that. So if you are working with an someone overseas planning to blow up a church or school here you gave up your Constitutional Rights to privacy at that point. If you want some of the legal part of it rewritten that's understandable. But you are going to get people killed by Terrorist Sympathizers getting rid of it completely.. When that happens you can thank the Democrats, Thomas Massie and the other Republicans that joined them. I will say one more time. It would be better to punish those that abuse it.
 

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I don’t listen to Bannon, no idea what he’s saying or wanting.

FISA is used against American citizens. Fact.

FBI to date, despite being mandated to do so, has not implemented a single reform to the process. They’re still able to abuse the process. Again, not a single person went to jail. Send some people to jail for violating the process and abusing the power. When they do that? We can talk about extending it. Until then, shut it down and work harder.

There's currently an Investigation being conducted about that. I agree that anyone who violated the law should be held accountable. Getting a warrant isn't that hard if you have facts to back it up. So holding people to that shouldn't be a high bar.

China is spying on all of us and creating a war map. Probably should be more concerned about that as they are searching for sympathizers. They aren't the only ones.




To target you for criminal investigation they have to get a warrant and they need probable cause of a crime to do that. So if you are working with an someone overseas planning to blow up a church or school here you gave up your Constitutional Rights to privacy at that point. If you want some of the legal part of it rewritten that's understandable. But you are going to get people killed by Terrorist Sympathizers getting rid of it completely.. When that happens you can thank the Democrats, Thomas Massie and the other Republicans that joined them. I will say one more time. It would be better to punish those that abuse it.
 
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Actblue has been working with Foreign Countries to get traitors elected. So those that got caught with FISA can cry all they want. I got no sympathy for them.
 

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What could go wrong with a bunch of foreigners running around in the country right now. Hopefully none of them were working with traitors here to do harm.

It's almost like they are rooting for something to go wrong so they can blame you.






President Donald Trump indicated Thursday that he was considering using an executive order to extend Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act after Congress failed to pass a temporary extension of the program this week.


The House failed in its latest attempt to extend the surveillance program earlier Thursday and the powers are set to expire Friday.

ā€œCongress wants me to do it,ā€ Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. ā€œLet’s see what happens. It’s very important for our military.ā€

The House voted 218-198 against an extension of the spy powers, which allow for the warrantless surveillance of foreigners abroad, with 19 Republicans siding with Democrats. The next vote on the program is scheduled for later this month.

The standoff comes as Section 702 has long-faced scrutiny from privacy hawks over the possibility that the Intelligence Community may gather information on Americans in the process. Critics also want the government to seek warrants before it can review any information collected on Americans who communicate with foreign targets, according to The Hill.

Trump has urged Congress to pass a temporary extension of the powers, maintaining that it is important for the U.S. military and intelligence community.

"Just like they did on border funding, the Radical Left Dumocrats are trying to take our National Security hostage because of unrelated issues," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Wednesday. "They should stop playing politics with the safety of our Great Country.

ā€œFISA 702 is very important to our Military, and keeping the American People safe, especially during the World Cup and America250 Celebrations,ā€ he added.