Adande: African-American assistant coaches are the victims

Drcats2025

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Some of the replies in this thread are really playing into the stereotype of UK fans that have haunted us since Rupp.
Please feel free to point or any racist posts and explain how they are. I've not seen one. Btw, I thought the Cam Newton incident was blown out of proportion. I don't believe he is sexist at all. He had an honest moment of thinking it was funny to hear a woman talk about routes, just like a woman may think it odd to hear a guy talk about makeup. Bottom line: people of all color are too uptight theses days, and overreact to everything. Chill out and quit whining about everything.
 

OldRed

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I have no doubt that many young black coaches are hired because they are close to the AAU coaches and players. I have no doubt that they are under pressure to deliver. I would hope that many black coaches are hired for their coaching abilities.

It doesn't make sense to me that coaches are held back just because they are black but I bet it happens. If the young black coaches feel a lot of pressure to deliver players for their team, they might be desperate enough to resort to illegal schemes. Doesn't excuse it.

You also have head coaches making millions of dollars who are smart enough to distance themselves from illegal activity so they can be "shocked, I tell you , shocked" that any of this happened on their watch. The powerful let their minions take the risks and the blame when bad things happen. Most of those rich head coaches are white so I can see why blacks can look at who got arrested and who didn't and see the unfairness of it. Hopefully, the FBI takes care of that and indicts a few head coaches who participated "at a distance". I wish I could say that I believe it will happen but rich, powerful people somehow manage to get away with a lot including crimes that you or I would be locked up for.
 
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kevcat

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https://theundefeated.com/features/black-assistant-coaches-get-hurt-the-most-in-recruiting-scandals/


"The most remarkable aspect of the government case that ripped apart college basketball last week is that the closest thing to a victim might be the alleged perpetrators in the middle of this, the ones who were doing what their job required: the African-American assistant coaches.

"Everyone got what they wanted from the transactions detailed by the FBI. The shoe companies, agents and financial advisers got their “in” with potential moneymaking clients of the future. The players and their families got their cash. The basketball programs got their recruits."
Adande is a loser racist. He hates white people.
 

ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk

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For a bunch of guys who claim they’re not bigots, a lot of you sure say a lot of racists comments.

Geez... I hope recruits don’t read these boards and think this is an accurate snapshot of our fan base.

Or maybe you guys should post a disclaimer before and after each post that: These views in no way represent the University of Kentucky or their basketball team.
 
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ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk

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Beyond sick of this crap. I am a white male with a long time black girlfriend, safe to say I do not care even the smallest bit what color someone’s skin is. But some people make it their life’s goal to insert race into any and every situation they can, twisting and turning the blame so as to make the black man a victim. No matter the magnitude of the obvious pathetic behavior of some people, it will inevitably be brought back to race... just because. Pathetic. Give it up.

Well you have a black gf.... my bad long time. How open minded of you. Good thing you prefaced your comments with that.
 

kevcat

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For a bunch of guys who claim they’re not bigots, a lot of you sure say a lot of racists comments.

Geez... I hope recruits don’t read these boards and think this is an accurate snapshot of our fan base.

Or maybe you guys should post a disclaimer before and after each post that: These views in no way represent the University of Kentucky or their basketball team.
You are the racist. How can you not see that?
 

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"Hey, I'm the White Goodman of the thread. I'll cry racist and ignore the real issues because It helps my cause politically and I feel so warm inside from practicing soft bigotry."



 

OldRed

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Adande is a loser racist. He hates white people.
He might be but you couldn't get that from the article. Aside from the view that because there is a lower percentage of black coaches than black players there must be something nefarious going on, I don't see any problem with the article. Even with that, it is hard to explain why there aren't more black assistant and head coaches. It is also not possible to deny that four black assistants have been charged and the head coaches have not been charged. Were all the associated head coaches white? Pitino, Miller, Enfield, are. Boynton is black but is Lamont Evans in trouble for what he did there or at South Carolina? I see the arrests as the powerful using underlings to do the dirty work, like Pitino did with McGee.

But you can't expect a professor of Journalism not to be part of the social justice league. You couldn't get that position without being one so I can't see why anyone should be surprised. Even if he felt differently, he couldn't write differently without being subjected to attack by other social justice warriors. They are a vicious bunch.
 

Aike

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He might be but you couldn't get that from the article. Aside from the view that because there is a lower percentage of black coaches than black players there must be something nefarious going on, I don't see any problem with the article. Even with that, it is hard to explain why there aren't more black assistant and head coaches. It is also not possible to deny that four black assistants have been charged and the head coaches have not been charged. Were all the associated head coaches white? Pitino, Miller, Enfield, are. Boynton is black but is Lamont Evans in trouble for what he did there or at South Carolina? I see the arrests as the powerful using underlings to do the dirty work, like Pitino did with McGee.

But you can't expect a professor of Journalism not to be part of the social justice league. You couldn't get that position without being one so I can't see why anyone should be surprised. Even if he felt differently, he couldn't write differently without being subjected to attack by other social justice warriors. They are a vicious bunch.

Why is it hard to explain why there aren't more black coaches?

Would the fact that it's a highly competitive job market, and that there are qualified candidates of all races have anything to do with it?

I don't buy into the narrative that you have to be a high level basketball player in order to coach at a high level. You certainly don't have to play at a high level to aspire to top tier jobs. Perhaps you feel differently.
 

billoliver40

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I think Mr A dance missed the point that no matter what color Chuck Persons skin is, he took a bribe outright.

If that's in his job title, I'm shocked.
 

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Why is it hard to explain why there aren't more black coaches?

Would the fact that it's a highly competitive job market, and that there are qualified candidates of all races have anything to do with it?

I don't buy into the narrative that you have to be a high level basketball player in order to coach at a high level. You certainly don't have to play at a high level to aspire to top tier jobs. Perhaps you feel differently.
Generally speaking the better the player, the worse the coach. Most of the better coaches and managers were guys on the fringe, they didn't have the great talent but they were around the game and learned the game.
 

OldRed

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I think Mr A dance missed the point that no matter what color Chuck Persons skin is, he took a bribe outright.

If that's in his job title, I'm shocked.
I don't think he missed the point at all. He is using victimology to make his point that black coaches are paying a heavy price but that's what social justice warriors do. I don't though. I see they broke the law, but they had partners or bosses that pushed and prodded them to do it. And people were willing to throw money around which is hard to resist. That is still no excuse.

Now, if we were to find that the FBI decided not to investigate white assistant coaches doing the same thing, well that would be racism.
 
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Well you have a black gf.... my bad long time. How open minded of you. Good thing you prefaced your comments with that.

You’re welcome??? Is to prove the color of ones skin only matters to those that use it as a crutch or those ignorant enough to treat others differently because of such a small difference.

If you do not play into using race as a motivating factor in the way you treat anyone I find it very hard to be racist in any way, shape or form. Does not matter what color you are, playing the role of the victim because of your skin color after breaking the law is low.

Not to mention cowardly.
 

JC CATS

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Generally speaking the better the player, the worse the coach. Most of the better coaches and managers were guys on the fringe, they didn't have the great talent but they were around the game and learned the game.
You are right about that. Average players, J Calapari, B Knight, B Stevens, T Smith, Then you have great players who did awful on the bench Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird.
 

UKWildcatT

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For a bunch of guys who claim they’re not bigots, a lot of you sure say a lot of racists comments.

Geez... I hope recruits don’t read these boards and think this is an accurate snapshot of our fan base.

Or maybe you guys should post a disclaimer before and after each post that: These views in no way represent the University of Kentucky or their basketball team.

Seek help...please
 

Bryo72

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https://theundefeated.com/features/black-assistant-coaches-get-hurt-the-most-in-recruiting-scandals/


"The most remarkable aspect of the government case that ripped apart college basketball last week is that the closest thing to a victim might be the alleged perpetrators in the middle of this, the ones who were doing what their job required: the African-American assistant coaches.

"Everyone got what they wanted from the transactions detailed by the FBI. The shoe companies, agents and financial advisers got their “in” with potential moneymaking clients of the future. The players and their families got their cash. The basketball programs got their recruits."
Throw the race card...my goodness...
 

JC CATS

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Bird won a coach of the year award, went to a nba finals and 2 conference finals in his 3 years as coach and went 147-67.
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Bird won a coach of the year award, went to a nba finals and 2 conference finals in his 3 years as coach and went 147-67.
 

JumperJack

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For a bunch of guys who claim they’re not bigots, a lot of you sure say a lot of racists comments.

Geez... I hope recruits don’t read these boards and think this is an accurate snapshot of our fan base.

Or maybe you guys should post a disclaimer before and after each post that: These views in no way represent the University of Kentucky or their basketball team.

The racism of low expectations on display right here. Disgraceful.
 

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Just want to be clear that I have 2 black labs that I love dearly, so I’m clearly not racist. I’m just sick of the race card being used everytime something doesn’t go someone’s way.
 
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ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk

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You’re welcome??? Is to prove the color of ones skin only matters to those that use it as a crutch or those ignorant enough to treat others differently because of such a small difference.

If you do not play into using race as a motivating factor in the way you treat anyone I find it very hard to be racist in any way, shape or form. Does not matter what color you are, playing the role of the victim because of your skin color after breaking the law is low.

Not to mention cowardly.

Got it. Pretend racism doesn't exist and it will go away. What a novel idea. Why didn't anyone think of this earlier?

I'm sure your actually read the article right?

I'll wait for the... "No, because I know what the fake news media is going to write anyway." type response.
 

FrankUnderwood

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Most of you take too much at face value and are too quick to dismiss other perspectives.

It's not a factual article. Adande isn't trying to be factual, but there is probably some truth to it.

Now, please continue with this entirely predictable internet thread that will consist of bad memes and complaints about political correctness and the evils of the liberal media.


If the shoe fits...
 

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I'm 19% Cherokee and I have a cat named "Whitey"!! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

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Got it. Pretend racism doesn't exist and it will go away. What a novel idea. Why didn't anyone think of this earlier?

I'm sure your actually read the article right?

I'll wait for the... "No, because I know what the fake news media is going to write anyway." type response.

Wrong, I realize that because of people like you racism does and will continue to exist. Racism lives because it seems to be in some people’s best interest.

And, of course, you have an ignorant minority that is actually racist. I choose to pay them no mind because you can’t fix stupid. If you want to spend your time focusing on that vast minority of trash be my guest.

I don’t believe I was trying prove that racism doesn’t exist. If I did that I apologize. I am trying to say that some people grasp at straws playing the race cars when it is uncalled for and unwarranted.

Peace.
 

JC CATS

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For a bunch of guys who claim they’re not bigots, a lot of you sure say a lot of racists comments.

Geez... I hope recruits don’t read these boards and think this is an accurate snapshot of our fan base.

Or maybe you guys should post a disclaimer before and after each post that: These views in no way represent the University of Kentucky or their basketball team.
I am sorry, I have read every post and have not found any that are racist. It is a stretch, I mean a big stretch to say any of these posts are insensitive to the issues of African-Americans. Which statements are racist that have been posted on here? Not being a smart azz, just trying to see what I should not be saying that is racist. I believer the writer doesn't give enough credit to the assistant coaches.Several Caucasian coaches have been implicated in this too. I would honestly like to hear the racist comments made in this thread. Unless you consider saying" actions are not racist" as being racist.