Adrian Wooley to Louisville

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As much as I hate to say it battles with UofL will be wars again now. Kelsey is obviously a really solid coach and they have money to compete.
 
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Catlogic15

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And the #1 point guard they signed won the McDAA three point contest tonight.
Louisville will be top ten to start the year.
 
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Ash Williams

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We are watching a baker put together a work of art, but all the while we ask, “Are you sure that isn’t too much flour? Are you really sure that’s enough eggs?” Of course, with our last coach supreme ingredients were used but we saw a finished product that tasted more like beefstew than a cake. It is still too early to know what the cake will look like from the current baker, but I say let’s let him bake the cake. If the cake sucks, we won’t eat it. Kentucky fans, for better or worse, will not settle for less than greatness. Let’s give the coach room to show us what he can do.
I’m not sure what you mean by “let him” and “give the coach room.” Do you mean shut up? Because nobody here has any real authority over Pope.
 
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Pope wants system guys, not necessarily the best players

Idk about wants but i think that's what he has to do considering what we have to work with. If we had an ad that did his job, there wouldn't be such nil limitations.

The Ville must have some good recruiters and lots of money.

Based on their spending so far, sure seems they have more to spend than uk. Hell last year they spent alot. Ya it was a huge overspend but they did it all the same.

I know they cultivated very strong relationships with multiple wealthy people. Not sure how much junior bridgeman's unfortunate death might effect that, but the fact remains they ran circles around mitch in terms of nil building. If mitch raises any money it goes to the athletic department, which doesn't help nil. In fact it works against nil because the pool of funds is limited.
 
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Hometown Alabama guy this good that makes a very quick decision to UL. Does UL pay more than AL? Could have went about anywhere. Is Kelcey that good a recruiter compared to most other coaches? Somehow they don't seem to mess around much, identifies their target and gets them quickly.
 

Butters' Dad

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Hometown Alabama guy this good that makes a very quick decision to UL. Does UL pay more than AL? Could have went about anywhere. Is Kelcey that good a recruiter compared to most other coaches? Somehow they don't seem to mess around much, identifies their target and gets them quickly.
Yes, UL is paying more in NIL than Alabama can afford to pay. They have more billionaire boosters. The limitations at Alabama in terms of NIL (and not revenue sharing as Oats tries to claim) are why Oats is leveraging the Maryland job. I don't expect it to change in any significant way either.
 

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I’m not sure what you mean by “let him” and “give the coach room.” Do you mean shut up? Because nobody here has any real authority over Pope.
The analogy was more about fans individually freaking out when we don’t know what the finished result will be. There was nothing in there about people “shutting up.” We are all impatient for the most part because we are Kentucky fans and my analogy was meant to provide perspective and calm.
 
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Dude played against 1 P5 school Rutgers who was awful. 0-3 from 3 that day had 10 pts. Rest of his competition has been low mid major. Not a big get for Louisville. Ky can get guys like this a dime a dozen. More than anything Pope needs upgrade at Center. Williams was serviceable at best. Imagine having a center that can dribble in half court offense and that can actually shoot. Williams could do neither and the offense was ran thru him in Popes system. 1 strong shooting forward Owen to return. Garrison and Chandler to return= top 10 team.
 

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I’m pretty sure Kentucky isn’t truly in the running for Ament. Might just be a hat on the table
I think Ament is Duke bound just waiting to be sure Flagg and Knueppel enter the draft. Arkansas is making a late push as well.
 

bnewt

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Yes, UL is paying more in NIL than Alabama can afford to pay. They have more billionaire boosters. The limitations at Alabama in terms of NIL (and not revenue sharing as Oats tries to claim) are why Oats is leveraging the Maryland job. I don't expect it to change in any significant way either.
can't believe that UL has more $ than Bama, unless all of their $ is going to football
 

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can't believe that UL has more $ than Bama, unless all of their $ is going to football
It's about donors. NIL is completely donor-driven and Louisville has donors willing to pay to support the program. It's why you've seen a falling off at Alabama in football since NIL became a thing. I know it's difficult to believe but it's the new reality in College Athletics now.
 
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CHAMPCAT11

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Total nonsense.
Not from my viewpoint. I lived there. There are some decent people for sure but Louisvillle’s crime rate is climbing the list of worst in the country and the growth is stagnant. The campus is nothing, and you have to get out of the city to feel halfway safe. The kid wouldn’t have selected UL solely for the school.
 

cardsfan53

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I think he's leveraging schools against one another to get the biggest payday. Everyone knows those guys are gone.
I'm sure the money has a lot to do with it as well. Believe it also comes down to playing style and how the program plans on using him.
 

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I'm sure the money has a lot to do with it as well. Believe it also comes down to playing style and how the program plans on using him.
What do you think the ratio is in the consideration of playing style/role to money? I would think it about 80/20.
 

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What do you think the ratio is in the consideration of playing style/role to money? I would think it about 80/20.
My guess would be closer to 50/50. I do believe he wants to go where he will get featured in the offense. Obviously, he is leveraging schools against each other money wise. That is why I believe Arkansas has come into the picture recently.
 

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Dude played against 1 P5 school Rutgers who was awful. 0-3 from 3 that day had 10 pts. Rest of his competition has been low mid major. Not a big get for Louisville. Ky can get guys like this a dime a dozen. More than anything Pope needs upgrade at Center. Williams was serviceable at best. Imagine having a center that can dribble in half court offense and that can actually shoot. Williams could do neither and the offense was ran thru him in Popes system. 1 strong shooting forward Owen to return. Garrison and Chandler to return= top 10 team.
The ranking I saw had him as a top 5 player in the portal. Certainly not "dime a dozen".
 
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Dude played against 1 P5 school Rutgers who was awful. 0-3 from 3 that day had 10 pts. Rest of his competition has been low mid major. Not a big get for Louisville. Ky can get guys like this a dime a dozen. More than anything Pope needs upgrade at Center. Williams was serviceable at best. Imagine having a center that can dribble in half court offense and that can actually shoot. Williams could do neither and the offense was ran thru him in Popes system. 1 strong shooting forward Owen to return. Garrison and Chandler to return= top 10 team.
Thankfully others disagree with you on Wooley

247 has him ranked #3 in the portal currently
On3 has him ranked #4 in the portal currently
 

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Not from my viewpoint. I lived there. There are some decent people for sure but Louisvillle’s crime rate is climbing the list of worst in the country and the growth is stagnant. The campus is nothing, and you have to get out of the city to feel halfway safe. The kid wouldn’t have selected UL solely for the school.
Well, it's nonsense. I work in downtown Louisville. The city went through some issues during the Brionna Taylor mess, but leadership is much better now and things are on the upswing. There are great restaurants in and around the center city and NuLu, including many around the Yum Center. Whiskey Row is amazing. Violent crime is significantly down over the last year. Of course there are bad areas, as is the case in all urban municipalities.

And if you're comparing the UofL campus now to what it was 20 plus years ago, when you probably lived here, there is no comparison. It's not as idyllic as UK's, but it's a nice urban campus now, with athletic facilities that are some of the best in the ACC.
 

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You have to take things like this with a huge grain of salt, but some of the rumors among Bama fans are that Louisville paid him roughly half of Bama’s total portal budget. Even if that’s slightly exaggerated, they almost certainly made a big offer in order to get him to commit without even taking all his visits.
 

cardsfan53

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You have to take things like this with a huge grain of salt, but some of the rumors among Bama fans are that Louisville paid him roughly half of Bama’s total portal budget. Even if that’s slightly exaggerated, they almost certainly made a big offer in order to get him to commit without even taking all his visits.
The guy from New Mexico reportedly received 3 million. My guess would be Wooley got that much as well. UofL bragged about the amount of money they were going to spend NIL. Holloway and Philon returning could have played a part as well. Chucky, Fatts, and Reyne are all gone and was pretty much UofL entire backcourt, so playing time and shots are there.