Football starts with Monsters up front on both sides of the ball. They have to be FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND. I still can't understand why our O line that averages 320+ lbs can't push a defense back. That's coaching philosophy . Franklin was too concerned about throwing the ball to the expense of the running game. POWER wins games.
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And winless against Texas. Of course everyone has a nemesis.
That changes nothing about what I said. Fine coach that won the most games. Stayed too long and paid for it.
Not the greatest.
NIL is the devil in the details. Money ruins everything.
My quote you included in your post was not a response to you, so no idea why you included it, or made the comment above.
How about Ryan Day’s record against Michigan?
True but are we pretending Joe was better than Bear?
Bryant won 6 titles. Saban has 7.
Paterno is an elite coach--one of the best of all time. He wasn't the greatest--there's just bias towards a fan base to believe your players, coaches and teams were the best--once they're gone of course--while they're here that's questionable lol
Oh, absolutely true. He's a good college running back, but Ohio State knew that PSU was going to try to lean on him because they're afraid to throw the ball.
And what did Andy Kotelnicki do? He did exactly what Ohio State expected: forced the run, and clearly showed he was afraid to call pass plays.
As you do when you're making $1.6 million a year as an offensive coordinator. "They know we don't trust the passing attack so... no point trying to surprise them by calling passing plays."
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Again, the approach was always, "If we can get 2 or 3 premier skill guys on the team, that'll be enough to beat 9-10 of the opponents we face each year."
There was no comprehensive strategy to recruit and develop talent.
And we all see the results: it DID work as it was designed to-- we had a bunch of 9 and 10 win seasons. The problem is there's a clear ceiling to this approach when Ohio State and Oregon and Georgia and a handful of other programs are developing their talent all over the field.
Which is another reason he was the best ever.
You always get further using a pool shark mentality. You always want your opponent, no matter what the sport or business situation, to underestimate you. One of Joe’s best lessons ever.
No question about the monsters, but they have to be mean monsters when playing the game. We can measure physical abilities, intellectual abilities, but we need a test for being NASTY when playing the greatest game of football. They cant be a "BFN" Big For Nothing. That's what we have now.
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IMO, CFB is now the days of MLB when Yankees (Red Sox and Dodgers) bought the best players to win championships. Championships go to the deepest pockets.
Dream on... Dabo's approach doesn't work in this era, and based on how they continue to improve DeBoer might take Bama to the Natty Title game this season. PSU will be lucky to land a known commodity with all the other SEC openings and potentially more to come.
Joe was a great coach because he took a team from virtually nothing to a NC contender and because he did it while following the rules (back when there were rules) and making sure that his players got a good education.
Maybe, but Alabama was best in the country under Bear Bryant long before Saban got the job.
Saban was successful way before his NIL days. Going back to Mich St. and his LSU days
And Alabama to boot, which had cheating (bag money) down to a science, an administration committed to win, and boosters/donors who were insane about winning. Auburn has tried for years to match Alabama, and has only succeeded in becoming Bama's little brother. Bama is a machine, and tOSU over about the past decade or so has turned into one as well.
when joe would say that his team was not very good,he was REALLY saying that he needed another third team left guard!!!!!
IMO, if Knowles had not been hired, Franklin would likely still be the head coach at PSU. Hiring him was the decision that sealed his fate.
Knowles is great at what he does, but you won't see immediate results and there will probably be a temporary regression in performance as the players learn and adapt to the complex formations and unorthodox schemes that are integral to Knowles defense. It takes time for his strategy and approach to be implemented. There will be growing pains and mistakes.
Knowles is also not a good fit for all teams. IMO he was never a good fit for Penn State's roster. I think hiring him was an impulse decision on the part of Franklin and very little thought was given to any of this.
Knowles is great at what he does, but you won't see immediate results and there will probably be a temporary regression in performance as the players learn and adapt to the complex formations and unorthodox schemes that are integral to Knowles defense. It takes time for his strategy and approach to be implemented. There will be growing pains and mistakes.
Knowles is also not a good fit for all teams. IMO he was never a good fit for Penn State's roster. I think hiring him was an impulse decision on the part of Franklin and very little thought was given to any of this.
As a matter of curiosity please post your list of coaches who were better....accomplished more.
Saban and Paterno competed against each other 5 times....Paterno won 3 and Saban 2
That is not accurate. Paterno was 3-4 vs Saban. Paterno was 3-2 vs Saban at Michigan State and 0-2 vs Saban at Alabama. Saban was 4-1 in his last 5 games between the two schools against Paterno.
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I read an article on Eleven Warriors a couple of months ago that said that OSU hasn't lost more than 2 games in a season (including Bowls) since 2011 - just mind-boggling. 2011 was the first tattoo gate penalty year when their roster took a hit with many of the star players bailing and Luke Fickell taking over for one year
and you have some evidence to support this claim? I see this all the time, but never with any proof