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79eer

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When WE (misplaced word)returned [from Vietnam], WE (misplaced word)
saw nothing like this,” Blumenthal reportedly said in 2003.

“We have learned something important since the days I SERVED IN VIETNAM, (several misplaced words) ” The New York Times quoted Blumenthal as saying in 2008.

“I served during the Vietnam era,”(deceitful / misleading words) Blumenthal reportedly said at a Vietnam War memorial in 2008. “I remember the taunts, the insults, sometimes even the physical abuse.” (more deceitful / misleading words)

But Blumenthal DIDN'T SERVE IN VIETNAM. He reportedly obtained at least five military deferments between 1965 and 1970. He eventually served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, but did not deploy to Vietnam.

During the Kavanaugh hearing, .............. Blumenthal said “the core of why we are here today really is credibility.” ( credibility from a “misplaced words” ******** artist )


“On a few occasions I have MISSPOKEN about my service,” Blumenthal, as quoted by The New York Times, said, adding that he served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. “And I regret that and I take full responsibility. But I will not allow anyone to take a “A FEW MISPLACED WORDS” and impugn my record of service. ( too late, you “impugned” yourself you POS )

................... ONE LARGE TURD FROM, ............. the ********.
 
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Original Mountaineer1

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79eer said:
When WE (misplaced word)returned [from Vietnam], WE (misplaced word)
saw nothing like this,” Blumenthal reportedly said in 2003.

“We have learned something important since the days I SERVED IN VIETNAM, (several misplaced words) ” The New York Times quoted Blumenthal as saying in 2008.

“I served during the Vietnam era,”(deceitful / misleading words) Blumenthal reportedly said at a Vietnam War memorial in 2008. “I remember the taunts, the insults, sometimes even the physical abuse.” (more deceitful / misleading words)

But Blumenthal DIDN'T SERVE IN VIETNAM. He reportedly obtained at least five military deferments between 1965 and 1970. He eventually served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, but did not deploy to Vietnam.

During the Kavanaugh hearing, .............. Blumenthal said “the core of why we are here today really is credibility.” ( credibility from a “misplaced words” ******** artist )


“On a few occasions I have MISSPOKEN about my service,” Blumenthal, as quoted by The New York Times, said, adding that he served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. “And I regret that and I take full responsibility. But I will not allow anyone to take a “A FEW MISPLACED WORDS” and impugn my record of service. ( too late, you “impugned” yourself you POS )

................... ONE LARGE TURD FROM, ............. the ********.
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As far as I recall, Blumenhal was voted in after this came to light. He also could be voted out by his constituents. Doesn't make it right.

Kavanagh hasn't apologized for his lies yet. He can't be removed from the appointment (generally).
 
EEResistable

EEResistable

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Original Mountaineer1 said:
As far as I recall, Blumenhal was voted in after this came to light. He also could be voted out by his constituents. Doesn't make it right.

Kavanagh hasn't apologized for his lies yet. He can't be removed from the appointment (generally).
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What lies? Aren't we waiting on an investigation?
 
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moe

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79eer said:
When WE (misplaced word)returned [from Vietnam], WE (misplaced word)
saw nothing like this,” Blumenthal reportedly said in 2003.

“We have learned something important since the days I SERVED IN VIETNAM, (several misplaced words) ” The New York Times quoted Blumenthal as saying in 2008.

“I served during the Vietnam era,”(deceitful / misleading words) Blumenthal reportedly said at a Vietnam War memorial in 2008. “I remember the taunts, the insults, sometimes even the physical abuse.” (more deceitful / misleading words)

But Blumenthal DIDN'T SERVE IN VIETNAM. He reportedly obtained at least five military deferments between 1965 and 1970. He eventually served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, but did not deploy to Vietnam.

During the Kavanaugh hearing, .............. Blumenthal said “the core of why we are here today really is credibility.” ( credibility from a “misplaced words” ******** artist )


“On a few occasions I have MISSPOKEN about my service,” Blumenthal, as quoted by The New York Times, said, adding that he served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. “And I regret that and I take full responsibility. But I will not allow anyone to take a “A FEW MISPLACED WORDS” and impugn my record of service. ( too late, you “impugned” yourself you POS )

................... ONE LARGE TURD FROM, ............. the ********.
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You should vote him out next chance you get.
 
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Pospecteer

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Original Mountaineer1 said:
As far as I recall, Blumenhal was voted in after this came to light. He also could be voted out by his constituents. Doesn't make it right.

Kavanagh hasn't apologized for his lies yet. He can't be removed from the appointment (generally).
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I looks like all of the sexual stuff is quickly being disproved. That leaves lying about his drinking and blacking out and remembering the night before. Since we are talking about drinking 35 years a ago? How can you prove that he blacked out? Unless he was admitted for alcohol poisoning and was unresponsive as documented by a medical professional, how are you going to prove that? On top of that, how do you prove that he did not remember the night before? I would assume that any witness would have also been drinking. He may have lied but unless you have medical documentation, you cannot refute his testimony.
 
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Original Mountaineer1

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Pospecteer said:
I looks like all of the sexual stuff is quickly being disproved. That leaves lying about his drinking and blacking out and remembering the night before. Since we are talking about drinking 35 years a ago? How can you prove that he blacked out? Unless he was admitted for alcohol poisoning and was unresponsive as documented by a medical professional, how are you going to prove that? On top of that, how do you prove that he did not remember the night before? I would assume that any witness would have also been drinking. He may have lied but unless you have medical documentation, you cannot refute his testimony.
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I think he said he didn't drink to excess.
 
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moe

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Pospecteer said:
I looks like all of the sexual stuff is quickly being disproved. That leaves lying about his drinking and blacking out and remembering the night before. Since we are talking about drinking 35 years a ago? How can you prove that he blacked out? Unless he was admitted for alcohol poisoning and was unresponsive as documented by a medical professional, how are you going to prove that? On top of that, how do you prove that he did not remember the night before? I would assume that any witness would have also been drinking. He may have lied but unless you have medical documentation, you cannot refute his testimony.
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If you can't prove the sexual allegations, you can't disprove them. More voices from his past are corroborating the heavy drinking allegations. He's far from free and clear on this.
 
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moe said:
If you can't prove the sexual allegations, you can't disprove them. More voices from his past are corroborating the heavy drinking allegations. He's far from free and clear on this.
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It doesn't matter....fan boys and girls think it is cool to lie under oath.
WE LIKE BEER
 
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moe said:
If you can't prove the sexual allegations, you can't disprove them. More voices from his past are corroborating the heavy drinking allegations. He's far from free and clear on this.
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You’re on drugs if you think the excessive booze is going to carry any water or hold up his confirmation. You all shot your wad on sexual assault thinking the #metoo culture would be enough to carry the lie over the goal line.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
You’re on drugs if you think the excessive booze is going to carry any water or hold up his confirmation. You all shot your wad on sexual assault thinking the #metoo culture would be enough to carry the lie over the goal line.
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Flake is a definite nay.....said Kavanaugh was a "partisan" and we cannot have a "partisan" on the SCOTUS.
 
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Pospecteer

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moe said:
If you can't prove the sexual allegations, you can't disprove them. More voices from his past are corroborating the heavy drinking allegations. He's far from free and clear on this.
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You got me on that one. You are right, I can't disprove that he did not do any of this. He said that he likes beer and had moments that he was not proud of, that gives him cover any any "heavy drinking" that he might be accused of. If this is the new bar moving forward, I am not sure anyone will ever be able to be appointed to the SC moving forward. I am just glad that you were not in a position of power in England pre WW2. Churchill would have been in prison and who knows how the war would have ended.

I just saw an article about Ruth Vader and she admitted that she was drunk during Obama's swearing in. If showing up at an official function, wearing her robe and being drunk ( a picture shows her passed out) is not enough to get someone impeached then heavy drinking should not disqualify someone for drinking over 35 years ago.
 
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moe

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Pospecteer said:
You got me on that one. You are right, I can't disprove that he did not do any of this. He said that he likes beer and had moments that he was not proud of, that gives him cover any any "heavy drinking" that he might be accused of. If this is the new bar moving forward, I am not sure anyone will ever be able to be appointed to the SC moving forward. I am just glad that you were not in a position of power in England pre WW2. Churchill would have been in prison and who knows how the war would have ended.

I just saw an article about Ruth Vader and she admitted that she was drunk during Obama's swearing in. If showing up at an official function, wearing her robe and being drunk ( a picture shows her passed out) is not enough to get someone impeached then heavy drinking should not disqualify someone for drinking over 35 years ago.
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I think the idea on the Kavanaugh heavy drinking is that if he is deemed to have been a heavy drinker back then, then maybe the night in question did happen and he just doesn't recall. Nothing needs to be proven, there just needs to be enough to view him as not being a great choice and then he doesn't get the votes.
 
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Pospecteer said:
You got me on that one. You are right, I can't disprove that he did not do any of this. He said that he likes beer and had moments that he was not proud of, that gives him cover any any "heavy drinking" that he might be accused of. If this is the new bar moving forward, I am not sure anyone will ever be able to be appointed to the SC moving forward. I am just glad that you were not in a position of power in England pre WW2. Churchill would have been in prison and who knows how the war would have ended.

I just saw an article about Ruth Vader and she admitted that she was drunk during Obama's swearing in. If showing up at an official function, wearing her robe and being drunk ( a picture shows her passed out) is not enough to get someone impeached then heavy drinking should not disqualify someone for drinking over 35 years ago.
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Agree 100%.....heavy drinking should not disqualify a candidate. Lying under oath should.
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
He lied about the name of the "drinking game"........
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How? The internet was not even invented until Al Gore got involved, so the Urban Dictionary was not invented either. In the 80's there were many many shows and movies about the Devils Triangle (off the coast of FL) so more likely not not, a high schooler would name a drinking game off of a place where odd things happen and not a 3-way, which while might be common place today in your world was not a common thing in the early 80's. Personally, if 2 guys were involved we just called it a tag team (studio wrestling was also big back then)
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
He lied about the name of the "drinking game"........
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So you really think a 17 year old was talking about spitroasting some broad? In the early 80s? GTFOH. At 17 I still thought doing a chick in the dumper was disgusting.

That genre of porn hadn’t even been introduced yet in the early 80s. Go back and watch some vintage porn. It was all still somewhat sensual unless it was an orgy depiction. Full on lesbian scenes were the most taboo it got back then. 2 dudes spit roasting a woman was hardly ever shown unless you got into the real niche stuff and I’ve only found the vintage stuff of that niche in my later adult years. You guys are trying to apply your level of knowledge and today’s wide open pornosphere to teenage boys in the early 80s. Christ, most guys were still jerking to the Sears catalog back then unless you had one of “those” dads. And I doubt very seriously an affluent devout Catholic family in the DC burbs had exposure to those kinds of depravity.

There is a complete loss of perspective going on right now.
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
Agree 100%.....heavy drinking should not disqualify a candidate. Lying under oath should.
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Agreed. If he lied under oath, he should be gone. Just like Clinton should have been gone for doing the same. That being said, lying under oath and choosing ambiguous words about heavy drinking in high school and college is not lying under oath, it's called protecting yourself. If you remember, Clinton's now famous "it depends on what the meaning of is is" was a brilliant line and he was protecting himself about getting a blow job while in the oval office, in current times. BK is being ambiguous about something that happened 35 years ago and quite honestly, is appropriate when trying to remember about a night of drinking. If he was ambitious about raping someone, that is a different story all together.
 
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moe said:
I think the idea on the Kavanaugh heavy drinking is that if he is deemed to have been a heavy drinker back then, then maybe the night in question did happen and he just doesn't recall. Nothing needs to be proven, there just needs to be enough to view him as not being a great choice and then he doesn't get the votes.
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Also known as a smear. I don't think he will get the votes.
 
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moe said:
If you can't prove the sexual allegations, you can't disprove them. More voices from his past are corroborating the heavy drinking allegations. He's far from free and clear on this.
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Allegations is all it takes now, huh?

Thats the hill you choose to plant your twisted flag?

How in the world does a Man who has a " drinking problem " graduate 1st in his class from Yale?

Why to do and your ilk continue along this obvious character assassination when I would bet my 401K that y'all couldn't care less if not for his political leanings....

Amazing how Trump grabbing some ***** is such a **** storm but Bill Clinton raped his way through Arkansas and nothing......

Want to know the difference?

The press are 95 % hard left liberal and they didn't cover ole Bill with such zeal. So many f'ing hypocrites sludge around this forum.

Sickening.
 
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moe

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BobbyBoucheer said:
Allegations is all it takes now, huh?

Thats the hill you choose to plant your twisted flag?

How in the world does a Man who has a " drinking problem " graduate 1st in his class from Yale?

Why to do and your ilk continue along this obvious character assassination when I would bet my 401K that y'all couldn't care less if not for his political leanings....

Amazing how Trump grabbing some ***** is such a **** storm but Bill Clinton raped his way through Arkansas and nothing......

Want to know the difference?

The press are 95 % hard left liberal and they didn't cover ole Bill with such zeal. So many f'ing hypocrites sludge around this forum.

Sickening.
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Relax Francis, we're all just watching from the sidelines here. :popcorn:
 
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moe said:
Your term only applies if her accusations are not true and we'll never know.
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No, you have that incorrect. It’s a smear until you all prove otherwise. Then, he’s a felon. The burden of proof lies with the accuser, that’s the way it works in this country.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
So you really think a 17 year old was talking about spitroasting some broad? In the early 80s? GTFOH. At 17 I still thought doing a chick in the dumper was disgusting.

That genre of porn hadn’t even been introduced yet in the early 80s. Go back and watch some vintage porn. It was all still somewhat sensual unless it was an orgy depiction. Full on lesbian scenes were the most taboo it got back then. 2 dudes spit roasting a woman was hardly ever shown unless you got into the real niche stuff and I’ve only found the vintage stuff of that niche in my later adult years. You guys are trying to apply your level of knowledge and today’s wide open pornosphere to teenage boys in the early 80s. Christ, most guys were still jerking to the Sears catalog back then unless you had one of “those” dads. And I doubt very seriously an affluent devout Catholic family in the DC burbs had exposure to those kinds of depravity.

There is a complete loss of perspective going on right now.
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DvlDog4WVU said:
So you really think a 17 year old was talking about spitroasting some broad? In the early 80s? GTFOH. At 17 I still thought doing a chick in the dumper was disgusting.

That genre of porn hadn’t even been introduced yet in the early 80s. Go back and watch some vintage porn. It was all still somewhat sensual unless it was an orgy depiction. Full on lesbian scenes were the most taboo it got back then. 2 dudes spit roasting a woman was hardly ever shown unless you got into the real niche stuff and I’ve only found the vintage stuff of that niche in my later adult years. You guys are trying to apply your level of knowledge and today’s wide open pornosphere to teenage boys in the early 80s. Christ, most guys were still jerking to the Sears catalog back then unless you had one of “those” dads. And I doubt very seriously an affluent devout Catholic family in the DC burbs had exposure to those kinds of depravity.

There is a complete loss of perspective going on right now.
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I thought I was sheltered......summer of 82 when I was 19, i walked in on a 3-way at a party where the recipient was a 15 yr old girl. That fall my girlfriend's suite mate offered the backdoor if I'd date her. She was from beckley and was getting blasted in the backside in HS.

And I can tell you that the kids I knew from the two local Catholic schools smoked more weed and had more sex than us poor public school kids.

But you are correct about 1 thing, the norms of 1983 were completely different than today. the wife and I had that same discussion. Grabbing a girl inappropriately in 83 wasn't generally considered sexual assault.
 
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