Ajani Sheppard

ashokan

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Marvin Harrison jr wouldn't have good numbers on our offense with an inaccurate and inconsistent passer. I've watched every game all season...how many times was a receiver open...only to get overthrown..smh.

He can adjust though.
Accuracy for a QB isn't really about hitting a WR in the numbers all the time.
You want "placement" where the WR can get the ball and not the DB.
A guy like Harrison can make adjustments faster and further -and he'll have tricks to fool DBs.
Its not just "sending a guy long" - a lot more cat and mouse than people realize
 
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RUBOB72

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Dremel is probably a top 5/top 3 slot receiver in the league. Wtf are you talking about? The route he ran to get open for the ball Wimsatt overthrew him was amazing. GW hits him and he's probably over 100 yards for the game. Did you forget his 75 yard TD against #1 defense Michigan which was mostly YAC?

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Go fellate Deion and his 1-5 in the PAC12 sons.
In defense of this undersized WR again Dremel is exactly the type of guy who coaches and teammates love. We have some very stupid people criticizing a player who is actually getting open and produces when thrown too.
 
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sct1111

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He can adjust though.
Accuracy for a QB isn't really about hitting a WR in the numbers all the time.
You want "placement" where the WR can get the ball and not the DB.
A guy like Harrison can make adjustments faster and further -and he'll have tricks to fool DBs.
Its not just "sending a guy long" - a lot more cat and mouse than people realize
Harrison Jr. is probably the most talent WR we've seen in cfb for the past few years. We're not getting guys like that. The most talented WRs we've had were Sanu, Britt and Carroo. We could use someone like one of them.
 

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my nephew should be at Rutgers next year. He destroyed his Pop Warner competition this year!!!
Rutgers coaching is clueless.. why don't they sign up my nephew and start him? Obviously my nephew will be great since he toys with his pop warner competition...
 

ashokan

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Harrison Jr. is probably the most talent WR we've seen in cfb for the past few years. We're not getting guys like that. The most talented WRs we've had were Sanu, Britt and Carroo. We could use someone like one of them.

Sure Harrison is good - but he's in a top conference with other good WRs who help a QB.
Why should Rutgers be playing with DII players and ham-n-eggers?
Sanu is a good example of a great WR on a Rutgers team
Guys like Sanu make QBs look good because they ALL overthrow/underthrow etc.










NOBODY on RU is making catches like that ^^^ and they should be



"Part of my craft is catching the ball, so I definitely put a lot of pride into it. I want my quarterback to feel a sense of security. When he comes to me in a key situation, I'm going to make the play. "

 

rutgersfan1766

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We are 6-3 because of Gavin, not in spite of Gavin. This notion that Greg isn't playing the best QB on the roster is nonsense.

It's so wild that after Rutgers clinched it's first bowl eligibility since 2014 they still want to blame the QB that did what no other QB since has done. Lead Rutgers to a bowl game.

Gavin going to take a big leap next year. I'll make sure ShopRite has plenty of crow for you all to eat. Always fresh, always for less!
 

sct1111

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Sure Harrison is good - but he's in a top conference with other good WRs who help a QB.
Why should Rutgers be playing with DII players and ham-n-eggers?
Sanu is a good example of a great WR on a Rutgers team
Guys like Sanu make QBs look good because they ALL overthrow/underthrow etc.










NOBODY on RU is making catches like that ^^^ and they should be



"Part of my craft is catching the ball, so I definitely put a lot of pride into it. I want my quarterback to feel a sense of security. When he comes to me in a key situation, I'm going to make the play. "

Are you seriously calling Jaquae Jackson a D2 receiver? The same Jackson that made a diving TD catch against a 4 star OSU corner after being held by him?

In a perfect world Jackson is your #2 and you have a guy like Britt or Sanu at #1. But Jackson is a legit P5 receiver. He has 4.4 speed. Dremel is a very good slot guy.

Strong needs some time in strength and conditioning but he also has the opportunity to be a stud receiver as well. Kids only a true freshman.

Also calling MHJ a "good" receiver shows you don't know what you're talking about. He's the best receiver in CFB. And probably the most talented WR we've seen in years.
 

Kbee3

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Are you seriously calling Jaquae Jackson a D2 receiver? The same Jackson that made a diving TD catch against a 4 star OSU corner after being held by him?

In a perfect world Jackson is your #2 and you have a guy like Britt or Sanu at #1. But Jackson is a legit P5 receiver. He has 4.4 speed. Dremel is a very good slot guy.

Strong needs some time in strength and conditioning but he also has the opportunity to be a stud receiver as well. Kids only a true freshman.
The team really misses Hill.
 

ashokan

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Are you seriously calling Jaquae Jackson a D2 receiver? The same Jackson that made a diving TD catch against a 4 star OSU corner after being held by him?

In a perfect world Jackson is your #2 and you have a guy like Britt or Sanu at #1. But Jackson is a legit P5 receiver. He has 4.4 speed. Dremel is a very good slot guy.

Strong needs some time in strength and conditioning but he also has the opportunity to be a stud receiver as well. Kids only a true freshman.

Also calling MHJ a "good" receiver shows you don't know what you're talking about. He's the best receiver in CFB. And probably the most talented WR we've seen in years.

I'm not "calling" Jackson a DII WR - that's what he was before transferring

"Rutgers is hoping that Division II All-American JaQuae Jackson and FCS all-conference receiver Naseim Brantley can play big roles this season."


Right now he has 331 yards and 1 TD - those are lower end mediocre for an eastern BIG team

I'm not describing MHJ stats as "good" just that he does basic things like making catches on sloppy balls - one expects that fron an OSU WR. People need to stop thinking QBs make all perfect throws. Lots of great QBs had lots of help. What's Mahomes without Kelce?

The Jets WR Garrett Wilson was drafted 10th overall from OSU, and he was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. His three year college stats are about the same as Harrison's. Harrison is talented but that's OSU for you.
 

sct1111

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I'm not "calling" Jackson a DII WR - that's what he was before transferring

"Rutgers is hoping that Division II All-American JaQuae Jackson and FCS all-conference receiver Naseim Brantley can play big roles this season."


Right now he has 331 yards and 1 TD - those are lower end medicocre for an eastern BIG team

I'm not describing MHJ stats as "good" just that he does basic things like making catches on sloppy balls - one expects that fron an OSU WR. People need to stop thinking QBs make all perfect throws. Lots of great QBs had lots of help. What's Mahomes without Kelce?

The Jets WR Garrett Wilson was drafted 10th overall from OSU, and he was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. His three year college stats are about the same as Harrisons. Harrison is talented but that's OSU for you.
You said "why should we be playing with D2 players". I'm stating that he's clearly a P5 level receiver and a solid one at that considering he can beat and make diving catches against blue chip players.

You keep looking at receiving yards.as proof that our receivers aren't any good when we run the ball 75% of the time and have a QB who has a 50% completion percentage.
 

ashokan

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You said "why should we be playing with D2 players". I'm stating that he's clearly a P5 level receiver and a solid one at that considering he can beat and make diving catches against blue chip players.

You keep looking at receiving yards.as proof that our receivers aren't any good when we run the ball 75% of the time and have a QB who has a 50% completion percentage.

Yep - thin passing game because its mediocre.
Yes - RU is playing with DII player
RU doesn't have a bad QB with great WRs - the theme I keep seeing - people calling Dremel "Chrebet" is crazy.

Its ok to like your players but RU's receiving corps is meh


 
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Shephard in his brief stint against Wagner looked to have quick twitch athleticism and a quick release with solid velocity. Honestly looks like a better prospect than Gavin.
No he doesn’t. Number 2 is special if he can get that accuracy down. Don’t you realize if he was accurate with that athleticism, he wouldn’t be at Rutgers lol. Get accurate and it changes everything for ya’ll.
 

willisneverrana43

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Everyone keeps overlooking Ajani Sheppard current QB on RU's roster in discussions regarding our QB position for next year. IMO this kid is very good. See what he did vs Wagner this year & look at his HS stats & video. He needs to get a legit shot at winning the job next year.
What makes you think he is not? The bozos on this board who went to internet poster film school? If he’s got the talent and skills you think he does, he’ll be in the mix.
 

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I’ve said this in the past as well. He played against decent comp in hs, has the physical metrics and can play the game. Looks like this forum made up its mind that Sheppard is not worth the chance with AJ coming up.
I've seen AJ play alot. And he's a good player. But the think that he's going come in next season and take over the qb position is crazy. He has to beat out 2 other qb's before he gets to qb1
 

DHajekRC84

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I would have already given him time in early blowout games and most likely would have given him time yesterday for the last series.
Why? If he played well it would start a fire and by keeping him off the field folks can say he didn't practice well lol. (that's sarcasm if not apparent. HE get 3 more free games to give him some snaps IF they want to AND have the right opportunity. Not holding my breath).
 

RUTGERS95

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Why? If he played well it would start a fire and by keeping him off the field folks can say he didn't practice well lol. (that's sarcasm if not apparent. HE get 3 more free games to give him some snaps IF they want to AND have the right opportunity. Not holding my breath).
needs reps to develop
 
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RUDiddy777

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I want to see more of this kid as well. He's a more punishing runner and will get piles to fall forward. When you're not getting much out of the passing game, what are you giving up by trying? I don't see Simon as an option. We need a QB who can run and take a pounding.

I haven't given up on Wimsatt,. He got off to an awful start yesterday but settled in and made some really nice throws. He's much better on a three quarter side arm, zip throw. Anything, overhand with touch should be eliminated. He missed those throws by a combined 50 yards...some were almost in the yips category. If you can't do it, why try?

Good post. He’s playing like a first year starter in a new offense. Some beauties, back shoulders and tight windows that make you see the talent. Some clunkers and head scratchers. But his skill set keeps defenses honest and improves everyone around him. And he’s mostly protecting the football.
 

sct1111

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Yep - thin passing game because its mediocre.
Yes - RU is playing with DII player
RU doesn't have a bad QB with great WRs - the theme I keep seeing - people calling Dremel "Chrebet" is crazy.

Its ok to like your players but RU's receiving corps is meh


I didn't say they were great I said they are legit P5 receivers. At least Jackson, Dremel and Strong are. A better passing QB and their numbers look better.
 

RUTGERS95

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I don't think Schiano will give him game reps. Schiano is all in on Wimsatt. If Shepard sowed well it would upset the applecart, especially for competition next year. Hope I am wrong.
yes and this is consistent with his past decisions
 

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it's surprising to me people are still blaming the wrs. It's like we watch entirely different games. The wrs are doing gymnastics routines to pull in balls thrown high, thrown low, thrown behind them, or thrown with too much on it, and more times than not they come up with the catch.
 

sct1111

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No he doesn’t. Number 2 is special if he can get that accuracy down. Don’t you realize if he was accurate with that athleticism, he wouldn’t be at Rutgers lol. Get accurate and it changes everything for ya’ll.
Wdym by this?
 

RUDiddy777

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I don't think Schiano will give him game reps. Schiano is all in on Wimsatt. If Shepard sowed well it would upset the applecart, especially for competition next year. Hope I am wrong.

Shepard is a true freshman. Gavin is 3 years into strength, development and playing in the B1G. We really need to stop with these theories that Greg isn’t playing to win or putting in the guys who give us the best chance to win. There hasn’t been a game where it made sense to give him reps. Early season reps needed to go to the first year starter.

Historically, he did bench 4 Star, Frosh AA Tom Savage when he thought Chas gave us the best chance in 2010. And he promptly pulled Natale for Savage in 2009 when it was clear Natale wasn’t going to be the guy.
 

rudad02

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Shepard is a true freshman. Gavin is 3 years into strength, development and playing in the B1G. We really need to stop with these theories that Greg isn’t playing to win or putting in the guys who give us the best chance to win. There hasn’t been a game where it made sense to give him reps. Early season reps needed to go to the first year starter.

Historically, he did bench 4 Star, Frosh AA Tom Savage when he thought Chas gave us the best chance in 2010. And he promptly pulled Natale for Savage in 2009 when it was clear Natale wasn’t going to be the guy.
He's all in on Wimsatt. Have you ever seen a freshman come in to a D1 program & play well/start. I have, against us at times.
 
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ashokan

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I didn't say they were great I said they are legit P5 receivers. At least Jackson, Dremel and Strong are. A better passing QB and their numbers look better.

Give Wimsatt Marvin Harrison Jr - give Kyle McCord Dremel or whoever else.

There you are.
 

tico brown

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He's all in on Wimsatt. Have you ever seen a freshman come in to a D1 program & play well/start. I have, against us at times.

And there’s only two freshmen starters on FBS but both are having decent years as Freshmen.

So it can happen.

 

RUTGERS95

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it's surprising to me people are still blaming the wrs. It's like we watch entirely different games. The wrs are doing gymnastics routines to pull in balls thrown high, thrown low, thrown behind them, or thrown with too much on it, and more times than not they come up with the catch.
correct, it's not the wideouts by any stretch
 

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We are 6-3 because of Gavin, not in spite of Gavin. This notion that Greg isn't playing the best QB on the roster is nonsense.

It's so wild that after Rutgers clinched it's first bowl eligibility since 2014 they still want to blame the QB that did what no other QB since has done. Lead Rutgers to a bowl game.

Gavin going to take a big leap next year. I'll make sure ShopRite has plenty of crow for you all to eat. Always fresh, always for less!
Saving this one
 

tico brown

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We are 6-3 because of Gavin, not in spite of Gavin. This notion that Greg isn't playing the best QB on the roster is nonsense.

It's so wild that after Rutgers clinched it's first bowl eligibility since 2014 they still want to blame the QB that did what no other QB since has done. Lead Rutgers to a bowl game.

Gavin going to take a big leap next year. I'll make sure ShopRite has plenty of crow for you all to eat. Always fresh, always for less!
Rutgers is 6-3 because the defense, Kyle Monongai, and the offensive line have played out of their minds this year. They’re the ones who deserve the accolades, flowers, whatever else they deserve for what they have done this year.
 
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yesrutgers01

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correct, it's not the wideouts by any stretch
on this bad passes- it is not on WR's. On the drops- it is. On plays where we throw it away, it is.

On the other hand- our WR's are also kicking *** and have made some great catches as well. But 85% of QB's make bad passes and with at least 1 great WR- 3-5 of those are caught, 5-10 passes are more open.
Our WR's are grinders more than play makers. Every team needs these type of guys but you still need that 1 guy...
 

RUDiddy777

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He's all in on Wimsatt. Have you ever seen a freshman come in to a D1 program & play well/start. I have, against us at times.

Think you have to be. Confidence is a big part of it, and we’ve seen some good and some bad with GW, but he’s protecting the football and that’s just as important.

I’m sure there will be a legit competition in the off-season - but I don’t think you throw a true frosh out there into the meat grinder of the schedule. Especially when we have a chance to get to 7, 8 or 9 wins.
 
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rutgersfan1766

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Rutgers is 6-3 because the defense, Kyle Monongai, and the offensive line have played out of their minds this year. They’re the ones who deserve the accolades, flowers, whatever else they deserve for what they have done this year.
I've been to every game this year home and away. You're correct here, but Gavin commands a different level of respect than previous Rutgers QBs from opposing defenses. He's by no means a fully developed player but he's the best we've had since Gary Nova. I recall fans ripping Gary Nova for years until his breakout 2014 campaign in his senior year. Gavin is still so young from an experience perspective.

He will continue to grow.