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Thanks for your service!! however, this is not about the flag, military nor vets.. wish you guys would just stop and pay attention to the reason for the protest and not the protest itself, stop hiding behind the flag.

Wait. You are soooo wrong. The only folks 'hiding' behind the flag are those kneeling or sitting during the Anthem. They have specifically identified the time that is used honor the flag to demonstrate or protest their so called unjust and/or oppressed treatment. As a result of this specific time they've chosen, they've held hostage not only the ceremony of the anthem, flag, and service members, but they've hi-jacked the very game that millions use to chill, relax and enjoy w/o the pressures of the world including politics.

They can protest until the cows home home for all I care, but they need to select another time to do so. Because of this... F' em and anyone that supports them .
 

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Wait. You are soooo wrong. The only folks 'hiding' behind the flag are those kneeling or sitting during the Anthem. They have specifically identified the time that is used honor the flag to demonstrate or protest their so called unjust and/or oppressed treatment. As a result of this specific time they've chosen, they've held hostage not only the ceremony of the anthem, flag, and service members, but they've hi-jacked the very game that millions use to chill, relax and enjoy w/o the pressures of the world including politics.

They can protest until the cows home home for all I care, but they need to select another time to do so. Because of this... F' em and anyone that supports them .

They also hide behind the 1st amendment. Everyone knows they only care about free speech when it is something THEY want to say or do. They whine like little girls when someone says something they don't like. Trump is playing those NFL fools like a well tuned violin.
 

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Thanks for your service!! however, this is not about the flag, military nor vets.. wish you guys would just stop and pay attention to the reason for the protest and not the protest itself, stop hiding behind the flag.

Pay attention? I could go into great detail of the "race card" that is used everyday by people. This is just another example of it and this is what irritates America and people like myself today.

Do you want to sit there and tell me you dont think white people are also oppressed and get chastised. Yet you dont see those people using sports to express that on a political stage.

Its crap like this that keep the race issue being a damn problem and people like you who want to make everyone believe that these people are being oppressed and mistreated.

Everyone has the ability to choose the life they live but so many would rather be lazy and try any tactic they can to get a free pass or in this case of these players keep the prejudice of race alive.

Yet not many and a very few pct will donate any of that overpaid salary pro athletes get to help the people they are using for a reason to protest.

So spare me the BS and take the protest against the goverment to them and not against our custom of honoring the flag.
 
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Anyone else notice how the networks did not show and some even said they were told not to show the crowds booing the players? Even the coverage of the kneeling in protests were one sided. How many pissed off fans were interviewed after those games? NONE! Just another way the fake liberal news wants to report the news through Rose Colored Glasses. They don't want the American Public to know that there are people out there that are really sick and tired of this BS and there are millions of us that are fed up.
 

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The NFL has a schitty product to begin with and now has a huge PR fire to put out.
I'm betting it becomes more of a schitty product and that it mishandles the current protest situation.
Worst part of this whole controversy is seeing a divided nation becoming more divided in a world getting more and more dangerous. The media, as usual, is doing its part to have us distracted and divided.
 

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Hopefully it never gets that way again.
It is similar, except that the protesting of the Vietnam war was, in my opinion, more worthy of protest....as history eventually proved it was.
Now we protest opposing opinions, historical landmarks, sports teams' names, drag queens' rights and Constitionally elected presidents.
 

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It is similar, except that the protesting of the Vietnam war was, in my opinion, more worthy of protest....as history eventually proved it was.
Now we protest opposing opinions, historical landmarks, sports teams' names, drag queens' rights and Constitionally elected presidents.

Wasn't alive and never been to interested in post Civil War history, but would you say that there was more "united-ness" in those protests?

A theme of current protests is absolute division. Not really seeing any positives from these protest, as in, I just don't see any merit.
 

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BC.. there were some serious fighting in the streets in 1968 era. It was really, really bad. Violence was witnessed everywhere, everyday. From Viet-Nam to the assignations of RFK & MLK. I would not wish to ever see this again. But answer your question, from my perspective, yes the anti-war protests were strong and very united. It took awhile but they eventually stopped the war.
 

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Thanks WNAS.

Today's protests seem like 2 disagreeing sides of whiney *** bitches.

Believe me, there was definitely two different disagreeing sides then. But there is no way that I would describe either side as whiney bitches. Which BTW I agree w/ you on about today's world. But back then, it was full on disruption from everything one would consider normalcy. Everything was full on revolutionary mode from Civil Rights, Drugs, Sex, & Rock & Roll. Street fighting and even fighting in schools (Jr High & High) was a daily occurrence.
 
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I think what BC was asking is just on the protest side of the Vietnam conflict. :Were all of those involved in the protests more united?
He's essentially saying that these "unity protests" are using an ironic name, since the demonstrators aren't even in unison on what they're protesting. It seems they all have different motives and messages.... or none at all.
 
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Thanks for your service!! however, this is not about the flag, military nor vets.. wish you guys would just stop and pay attention to the reason for the protest and not the protest itself, stop hiding behind the flag.
Can't figure out the reason, and no one seems willing or able to articulate it. BTW, until these ingrates properly respect the flag, I will interpret their actions as disrespecting and trashing the country. STFU and play football.
 

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Thanks for your service!! however, this is not about the flag, military nor vets.. wish you guys would just stop and pay attention to the reason for the protest and not the protest itself, stop hiding behind the flag.

Nobody is hiding behind a flag. People are respecting the flag. The spolied brat players are disrespecting the flag at the same time disrespecting Law Enforcement. You don't want to get shot? Don't put yourself in a situation where you might get shot. Spoiled brats defending criminals and disrespecting the flag, thats what I see going on.
 
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Ha ha ha, a little too much of the chronic with all that coughing lol.

There are plenty of players that did not make the cut and their lifelong dream of the NFL was crushed, reducing lots of men to tears when it happened. Get those players in the NFL and fire these douchebags that are jeopardizing their careers over this stupid crap. I may be wrong but I bet they would not take a knee during the anthem. It is a privledge to get to play in the NFL not a right.
 

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Believe me, there was definitely two different disagreeing sides then. Street fighting and even fighting in schools (Jr High & High) was a daily occurrence.

I too went through this time frame. In Tulsa the struggle was impending desegregation. Every Spring while in jr high we had tension, fights and sometimes worse. Then when High School came around I was faced with "redistricting". As a terrified, scrawny white kid forced to go to an 'all black' BTW, my folks moved. I'm no racist but then I suppose I was a coward...
 
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