Alek Thomas commits to TCU for Football
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I though NCAA rule is football has to pay in this situation? Because if not power 5 schools would use minor sports to house and extra 10-15 kids.
You're 100% correct. He would NOT be able to play football if he's on a baseball scholarship, the moment he does he becomes scholarship football player and counts against the 85 player cap. This is actually better for Thomas because baseball hands out partial scholarships while football only has full rides available.
University of Miami did that back in the day I believe (and I'm sure other schools did as well) when they had football scholarship penalities in place by the NCAA. They gave out some track scholarships to guys like Santana Moss who then also played football. but they were legitimate track scholarships as those guys could and did compete and win at Track meets.
confirmed by the Souttown:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-saturday-roundup-st-0212-20170211-story.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-saturday-roundup-st-0212-20170211-story.html
Baseball gets 11.7 scholarships to distribute. Not sure how they will do it with him playing both but obviously he is going for free.
That's true but also not the point. Baseball rarely gives out full scholarships and it never happens at a program like TCU, so it doesn't matter how highly regarded Thomas is he wouldn't get a full ride for baseball. He won't go to school for free because of who he is or because of playing multiple sports if he plays football he will be on a football scholarship and going to school for free because he has to.
TPF,
You are kind of correct, first off on an official visit if the player is coming for a combination of Football/Basketball/Baseball/Wrestling etc... the official will always count against Football's allotment. If he were a Basketball/Basball visit it counts against Basketball. In other words the Headcount sports i.e. Football and Basketball always superseded the fractional sports like Baseball, Wrestling, Track, etc... That said if the athlete is a scholarship baseball player or wrestler he can also be a preferred walk-on football player, case in point Jan Johnson at Penn State, full scholarship in wrestling but walk-on in football. Jan may now be walking away from wrestling(because of injury) and remain a walk-on at LB until he earns a scholarship which is highly likely.
All Said it is possible that Mr Thomas will be carried by Baseball at TCU and a PWO in Football.
You are kind of correct, first off on an official visit if the player is coming for a combination of Football/Basketball/Baseball/Wrestling etc... the official will always count against Football's allotment. If he were a Basketball/Basball visit it counts against Basketball. In other words the Headcount sports i.e. Football and Basketball always superseded the fractional sports like Baseball, Wrestling, Track, etc... That said if the athlete is a scholarship baseball player or wrestler he can also be a preferred walk-on football player, case in point Jan Johnson at Penn State, full scholarship in wrestling but walk-on in football. Jan may now be walking away from wrestling(because of injury) and remain a walk-on at LB until he earns a scholarship which is highly likely.
All Said it is possible that Mr Thomas will be carried by Baseball at TCU and a PWO in Football.
In the case where a football player (with a full scholarship in another sport) is a PWO, does he get treated differently than the scholarship football players regarding meals and other considerations?
All due respect you're wrong, look up the bylaws if you need to, I don't have to, I'm currently living this. I don't know or care who Jan Johnson is but it's not how you spelled it out because that's illegal. A scholarship athlete can not walk onto the football team, if he does he immediately becomes a football scholarship and immediately counts against the 85 man limit. NCAA has some issues but this loophole has been corrected. Thomas can go play baseball at TCU at whatever % they decide to give him but he becomes a full scholarship football player the moment he steps on that field. Football takes precedence over every sport, basketball included.
If you're talking about Thomas then no because he's a scholarship player, unless he's walking on in both spots but I'm sure he's not. If you're just talking about in general the easy answer is no, there is essentially no difference in the areas I presume you have in mind.
Pitchers and catchers definitely get the $ first then a stud OF, SS. Thomas is the top rated OF in his class nationally. Could go free anywhere he wants. Might get drafted high enough though to forego college
Big time programs absolutely do not give out full rides, what a terrible waste of limited resources, that's how you run a program into the ground. I would bet you everything I own that there isn't a single top tier program offering Thomas a full ride and that's not an indictment on Thomas in any way, he's a rare talent. That's what second tier programs try to do to land a local star they would normally have no chance at, but that's what gets a coach on his *** really quick. As rare of a talent as Thomas is he's an OF the least scarce of all college prospects, every team would love to have him but not at a full ride and certainly not what TCU is offering, but as I cited above it doesn't matter, they'll get him for free.
I'll be interested to know what he tells scouts, that will decide where he gets drafted.
Wouldn't it benefit Thomas to sign his NLOI as a football scholarship so that if he is drafted high in the 2018 MLB draft he can decide to go to MLB? I was under the impression that if you signed with an NCAA baseball program you had to be there 3 years before being eligible for the draft.
Signability becomes an issue with the MLB draft.
He has unique insite into the MLB world so that may be why he chose TCU for football and potentially never set foot on that campus.
