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KingOfBBN

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Yes, the vaccinated can still get it and transmit it. But the vaccinated are hospitalized and die at a VASTLY lesser rate - something like 92% of COVID deaths this year have been in the unvaccinated. Opinions have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Lol such BS stats and please show us the age of those who are dying.

This latest variant is nothing yet without fail, here comes the booster shots. The fact that you all put such faith in a career criminal company like Pfizer and career politicians shows how you all are just total sheep.

You move the goalposts constantly and question nothing. You’re still getting it and spreading it so mandates are pointless. If you haven’t got the jab yet you don’t want it and stop pretending you give a **** about the other group. You do not. You just think you’re virtuous and will adopt the view of whatever corrupt bureaucrat tells you to.
 

KingOfBBN

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Did you get a cold last year? The flu? No?

Me either. Masks work. Its a physical barrier between you and everything else.

The people dying from COVID or experiencing complications are unvaccinated. Pretty much exclusively. It really is that simple.
😂 You live in a fantasyland. Keep getting those jabs and stay afraid forever. Let’s just ignore your masks are worthless and your natural immune system and the antibodies are way better than your jab which is always considered useless for the next variant and the next shot they want to force on you.

Keep thinking a company who has been criminals forever and has already made $36B just this year, gives a **** about your health.
 

roguemocha

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I ****ing love the masks and social distancing. Masks have reduced the number of stupid, impromptu conversations with complete strangers while I'm shopping by 93% and the social distancing? Yeah, a minimum of 6 feet away from that guy/woman who skipped their weekly bath or purchases cologne/perfume by the quart, not to mention talking to someone who thinks there's no need for brushing their teeth, using mouth wash or an occasional breath mint.
Sounds like live in a really ****** area…
 

JDHoss

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Sounds like live in a really ****** area…
Not really. We spend most of our days on an uncrowded beach and/or fishing/kayaking. I just have no desire to engage complete strangers in meaningless conversations, no matter how short. It's mostly at the grocery/drug store or famer's market. The rest of the time, we're really not around many people.
 

roguemocha

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😂 You live in a fantasyland. Keep getting those jabs and stay afraid forever. Let’s just ignore your masks are worthless and your natural immune system and the antibodies are way better than your jab which is always considered useless for the next variant and the next shot they want to force on you.

Keep thinking a company who has been criminals forever and has already made $36B just this year, gives a **** about your health.
They also didn’t have to invest ANY money in advertising which is usually a LOT nor did they have to pay for the development of it since the govt did both for them. These two things alone saved them billions of dollars they usually have to spend on new drugs. One billion in sales year one is a “benchmark” they really try to hit for new drugs. They did over $30 billion in year one and year two is pushing toward $40 billion. But yeah they’re just looking out for us! Thanks Uncle Sam!
 

fromthe25ydline

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Vaccines aren’t shipped out of a basement in suburban Connecticut. Research Labs and production labs cost a great deal of money. There wasn’t a modern template to follow against a viral enemy, one we can’t see, taste, nor hear. Germ warfare has always been a major worry.
The fight against Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome gave the labs a head start towards developing a COVID vaccine. The only thing that was handled piss poorly was the truth and the ******** song-and-dance around the dangers of this virus.
 

kyeric

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Did you get a cold last year? The flu? No?

Me either. Masks work. Its a physical barrier between you and everything else.

The people dying from COVID or experiencing complications are unvaccinated. Pretty much exclusively. It really is that simple.

That's absolutely wrong.

Almost 40% of ALL covid patients, almost 40% of covid patients in the ICU and over 40% of covid patients on vents in the hospital where my wife works as an RN in the ER are vaccinated. That was in mid-November and that number had rose for 3 straight weeks at that point.

Funny thing is, i don't believe she's seen any of those stats since then.
 
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kyeric

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Yes, the vaccinated can still get it and transmit it. But the vaccinated are hospitalized and die at a VASTLY lesser rate - something like 92% of COVID deaths this year have been in the unvaccinated. Opinions have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Then why the need to cancel games, especially in leagues where 95+% of the players have taken their shots.
 
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kyeric

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I remember standing in line to grt my shot, people crying, scared, it was contagious. Then I got the shot and it wasn't that bad.

That was 77 years ago and I was in the first grade, and EVERYONE HAD to take the shot, We all survived AND it pretty much wiped out smallpox--------just like this would if there weren't so many adult scaredycats and know it alls.

At the time of this post, the fact 3 people liked this is amazing and somewhat pathetic.

Comparing the Smallpox vaccine to the covid shot. Okay.
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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Did you get a cold last year? The flu? No?

Me either. Masks work. Its a physical barrier between you and everything else.

The people dying from COVID or experiencing complications are unvaccinated. Pretty much exclusively. It really is that simple.
No flu last year..that’s because the test they were doing did not distinguish between Covid and flu. Required by dec 31 to transition to test that picks up both. So we are seeing flu now. That’s the way I read the below.

 

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From the Right’s beloved Fox:

“The 7 day rolling case rate per 100,000 residents by vaccination status for the week ending December 16 shows a rate of 35 per 100,000 among the unvaccinated compared to 8 per 100,000 among the vaccinated. 99% of new cases for December 16 were among the unvaccinated per the data.”

Forgot to mention not a single death due to Omicron variant among vaccinated or unvaccinated. Vaccination status means nothing with a virus that hurts no one…
 

hmt5000

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You forgot the part where they counter argue infectious disease experts by quoting Joe Rogan and the My Pillow Guy.
Joe Rogan got his info from front line dr's that treated our congressmen and 1000's of other patients and people that developed mrna technology to begin with. You watch cnn don't you?
 
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ryanbruner

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At the time of this post, the fact 3 people liked this is amazing and somewhat pathetic.

Comparing the Smallpox vaccine to the covid shot. Okay.
The difference being that 77 years ago you didn’t have 50% of the country believing that everything is a conspiracy to turn children into whale humanoids for the elite to eat their brains out in order to live forever like vampires.

You also didn’t have the other 50% purposely lying about information that should be public in order to fit a narrative.

77 years ago we put our trust in others and people made educated decisions and moved forward. Fast forward 77 years later and you’ve got dudes like @Gassy_Knowls calling any liberal a child eating pedophile and you’ve got several others on here who call any republican an inbred hillbilly. No one truly cares about the person next to them unless they think exactly like them.
 

Anon1640710541

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The difference being that 77 years ago you didn’t have 50% of the country believing that everything is a conspiracy to turn children into whale humanoids for the elite to eat their brains out in order to live forever like vampires.

You also didn’t have the other 50% purposely lying about information that should be public in order to fit a narrative.

77 years ago we put our trust in others and people made educated decisions and moved forward. Fast forward 77 years later and you’ve got dudes like @Gassy_Knowls calling any liberal a child eating pedophile and you’ve got several others on here who call any republican an inbred hillbilly. No one truly cares about the person next to them unless they think exactly like them.

How do you know? Are you 100 years old?
 

roguemocha

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From the Right’s beloved Fox:

“The 7 day rolling case rate per 100,000 residents by vaccination status for the week ending December 16 shows a rate of 35 per 100,000 among the unvaccinated compared to 8 per 100,000 among the vaccinated. 99% of new cases for December 16 were among the unvaccinated per the data.”
What about for those that had Covid and not vaxxed? They NEVER include that because it hurts the narrative.

Im getting an antibody test tomorrow to shove in some peoples faces that think I should get vaxxed after having Covid.
 

ryanbruner

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What about for those that had Covid and not vaxxed? They NEVER include that because it hurts the narrative.

Im getting an antibody test tomorrow to shove in some peoples faces that think I should get vaxxed after having Covid.
Both of the numbers are right there lol…

35 per 100k for unvaccinated
8 per 100k for vaccinated

99% of new cases for December 16th were unvaxxed. And I’m not trying to be a smart *** here man…but come on…just read….what is 100-99? That’s right! It’s 1…so 1% of the new cases on December 16th were among the vaccinated. Who knows whether that data is completely true...but the numbers are right there for both.
 
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Both of the numbers are right there lol…

35 per 100k for unvaccinated
8 per 100k for vaccinated

99% of new cases for December 16th were unvaxxed. And I’m not trying to be a smart *** here man…but come on…just read….what is 100-99? That’s right! It’s 1…so 1% of the new cases on December 16th were among the vaccinated.
Again I said what about those with antibodies that aren’t vaxxed? That’s completely different from people that aren’t vaxxed and never had Covid.
 

ryanbruner

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Again I said what about those with antibodies that aren’t vaxxed? That’s completely different from people that aren’t vaxxed and never had Covid.
You already know that reinfection is rare whether you have the vaccine or not. They tell you over and over again on their website that the chance of reinfection is extremely low regardless of vaccination status. You act as if people are trying to hide this information from you. I don't understand why there are groups of people who act as if the world is trying to hide the bigger picture from them. Everything is a scheme to withhold information.

Per the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html

"
  • Available evidence shows that fully vaccinatedindividuals and those previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 each have a low risk of subsequent infection for at least 6 months. Data are presently insufficient to determine an antibody titer threshold that indicates when an individual is protected from infection. At this time, there is no FDA-authorized or approved test that providers or the public can use to reliably determine whether a person is protected from infection.
    • The immunity provided by vaccine and prior infection are both high but not complete (i.e., not 100%).
    • Multiple studies have shown that antibody titers correlate with protection at a population level, but protective titers at the individual level remain unknown.
    • Whereas there is a wide range in antibody titers in response to infection with SARS-CoV-2, completion of a primary vaccine series, especially with mRNA vaccines, typically leads to a more consistent and higher-titer initial antibody response.
    • For certain populations, such as the elderly and immunocompromised, the levels of protection may be decreased following both vaccination and infection.
    • Current evidence indicates that the level of protection may not be the same for all viral variants.
    • The body of evidence for infection-induced immunity is more limited than that for vaccine-induced immunity in terms of the quality of evidence (e.g., probable bias towards symptomatic or medically-attended infections) and types of studies (e.g., observational cohort studies, mostly retrospective versus a mix of randomized controlled trials, case-control studies, and cohort studies for vaccine-induced immunity). There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.
  • Substantial immunologic evidence and a growing body of epidemiologic evidence indicate that vaccination after infection significantly enhances protection and further reduces risk of reinfection, which lays the foundation for CDC recommendations."
 

CatsFanGG24

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Both of the numbers are right there lol…

35 per 100k for unvaccinated
8 per 100k for vaccinated

99% of new cases for December 16th were unvaxxed. And I’m not trying to be a smart *** here man…but come on…just read….what is 100-99? That’s right! It’s 1…so 1% of the new cases on December 16th were among the vaccinated. Who knows whether that data is completely true...but the numbers are right there for both.
Data looks like garbage.

TN is about 50% vaccinated - so according to the numbers in the same article, they are tracking about 81% unvaccinated cases and 19% vaccinated. A clear benefit - but this 99% garbage just makes people not believe a word coming out of their mouths...especially now when people see family and friends (vaccinated) catching infections left and right.
 

ryanbruner

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Data looks like garbage.

TN is about 50% vaccinated - so according to the numbers in the same article, they are tracking about 81% unvaccinated cases and 19% vaccinated. A clear benefit - but this 99% garbage just makes people not believe a word coming out of their mouths...especially now when people see family and friends (vaccinated) catching infections left and right.
It was for a single day. I mean odds are they picked the day most beneficial for the story within that week. Its not unlikely that in a given day 99% of cases were from unvaccinated folks but it probably is misleading to an extent because they picked a particular date.

Everyone knows that if you are unvaccinated and you haven't already developed some sort of immunity through natural antibodies.....that you are more likely to get sick. That's factual. There isn't a point in arguing about that anymore. I don't know why anyone from either side is. It adds nothing to the discussion.
 
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It's statistically impossible for 99% of cases in a given day to be solely not vaccinated.

If you SCIENCE! bros even actually understood science at its most basic, rudimentary and fundamental level, that would be glaringly obvious to you.
 
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It's statistically impossible for 99% of cases in a given day to be solely not vaccinated.

If you SCIENCE! bros even actually understood science at its most basic, rudimentary and fundamental level, that would be glaringly obvious to you.
If 52% of the population is vaccinated and 60% has at least 1 dose......and you consider the fact that 81% of the cases are already from the unvaccinated crowd.....and the 2 don't particularly mesh socially.....then no....its not "statistically impossible."
 

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If 52% of the population is vaccinated and 60% has at least 1 dose......and you consider the fact that 81% of the cases are already from the unvaccinated crowd.....and the 2 don't particularly mesh socially.....then no....its not "statistically impossible."
QED
 

kyeric

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It was for a single day. I mean odds are they picked the day most beneficial for the story within that week.

...but it probably is misleading to an extent because they picked a particular date.

Which is exactly what has been wrong this whole time. Misinformation. Plenty of it purposefully done. And this is not directed at you personally, you just happened to point out exactly why we are where we are.

The goal posts have moved so far since the start of this thing that they aren't even in the same stadium any longer combine that with so many other things that just don't add up. Even someone that is gung ho about the shot(s) can see that something is just not on the up and up. It has gone on since the very beginning.

1. 14 days to flatten the curve...we are now closing in on 700 days
2. curves flattened, but we are still having cases
3. cases seem to be falling, but people are still dying
4. not taking the shot if it is made available while trump is president...our current "leaders" and many people in high profile positions were very open about this line of thinking
5. no treatments are allowed, even to the point of making them inaccessible for any reason even though at least one of them is used by billions of people a year
6. trump's out of office, let's mandate the shot, but they now have a problem with people who don't want to take it
7. hospitals are overwhelmed with covid patients, lets fire 25+% of the medical staffs around the country
8. look at florida, lowest per capita case rate in the country and you hear NOTHING about it because they don't have mask or shot mandates and are pretty much back to normal, at least as normal as can be
9. pushing the horse paste and fish bowl cleaner crap...i know 4 people personally that have taken ivermectin and their symptoms were completely gone in less than 48hrs
10. new delta variant is coming and it is pretty much the bubonic plague
11. comparisons to other actual vaccines like smallpox and polio
12. changing the definition of vaccine so they can actually call this shot a vaccine
13. omicron is a serious threat when you actually listen to the people outside of our country that have had to deal with it, it is nothing more than a cold in terms of it's power
14. 800,000 people have died FROM covid in our country, when the cdc's own site says it is about 6% of that...no one likes to mention that those that die with covid have, on average, about 4 other major health concerns/issues
15. we have to have the shot or sports and other activities are over...now we have leagues, whose players are 95+% vaccinated, cancelling/postponing games
16. almost literally no flu cases last year and no one seems to find that odd...now this year all of a sudden (i.e. tests can now tell the differenced between covid and influenza) the flu is back after it's brief hibernation
17. now places like NYC you have to show a shot passport just to get into places like the shot has done anything to stop this
18. 99% of all covid patients in the hospital are unvaxxed...i know for a fact this is crap...my wife works in the ER and i've seen the emails that state as much (~40% of all covid patients overall, in the ICU, and on a vent are vaxxed)
19. You need a booster shot
20. if you don't get the booster, you are no longer considered vaccinated
21. You need 2 booster shots...soon you'll need a booster for the variant (omicron) whose symptoms are very mild (normal cold-like) to undetectable
22. Communist countries like CA have had very restrictive mask/vaccine/shutdown policies the entire time and if they actually worked you'd think they'd be better off...not so much (see Florida, again)
23. our police, healthcare, workers, firemen, etc are being terminated for not taking the vaccine because of directives/mandates from our president, but the southern border is sieve of unvaxxed people
24. why is Pfizer (or whomever) worried enough about showing what is in these shots that they want the contents sealed for 75yrs?
25. Why does the doctor that developed the mRNA vaccine delivery system get ignored when he talks about this?
26. why was animal testing stopped?
27. why do we not hear much about the actual breakdown of who is actually getting really sick and/or dying from this? Average age is somewhere around 75yo and the vast majority are already quite sick (4 co-morbidities) and/or obese
28. why don't we see much, if any, push for people to maintain a healthy lifestyle? instead they want us to continue to get shot after shot after shot after shot after shot after shot...

i hope that gets my point across.
 

ryanbruner

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Which is exactly what has been wrong this whole time. Misinformation. Plenty of it purposefully done. And this is not directed at you personally, you just happened to point out exactly why we are where we are.

The goal posts have moved so far since the start of this thing that they aren't even in the same stadium any longer combine that with so many other things that just don't add up. Even someone that is gung ho about the shot(s) can see that something is just not on the up and up. It has gone on since the very beginning.

1. 14 days to flatten the curve...we are now closing in on 700 days
2. curves flattened, but we are still having cases
3. cases seem to be falling, but people are still dying
4. not taking the shot if it is made available while trump is president...our current "leaders" and many people in high profile positions were very open about this line of thinking
5. no treatments are allowed, even to the point of making them inaccessible for any reason even though at least one of them is used by billions of people a year
6. trump's out of office, let's mandate the shot, but they now have a problem with people who don't want to take it
7. hospitals are overwhelmed with covid patients, lets fire 25+% of the medical staffs around the country
8. look at florida, lowest per capita case rate in the country and you hear NOTHING about it because they don't have mask or shot mandates and are pretty much back to normal, at least as normal as can be
9. pushing the horse paste and fish bowl cleaner crap...i know 4 people personally that have taken ivermectin and their symptoms were completely gone in less than 48hrs
10. new delta variant is coming and it is pretty much the bubonic plague
11. comparisons to other actual vaccines like smallpox and polio
12. changing the definition of vaccine so they can actually call this shot a vaccine
13. omicron is a serious threat when you actually listen to the people outside of our country that have had to deal with it, it is nothing more than a cold in terms of it's power
14. 800,000 people have died FROM covid in our country, when the cdc's own site says it is about 6% of that...no one likes to mention that those that die with covid have, on average, about 4 other major health concerns/issues
15. we have to have the shot or sports and other activities are over...now we have leagues, whose players are 95+% vaccinated, cancelling/postponing games
16. almost literally no flu cases last year and no one seems to find that odd...now this year all of a sudden (i.e. tests can now tell the differenced between covid and influenza) the flu is back after it's brief hibernation
17. now places like NYC you have to show a shot passport just to get into places like the shot has done anything to stop this
18. 99% of all covid patients in the hospital are unvaxxed...i know for a fact this is crap...my wife works in the ER and i've seen the emails that state as much (~40% of all covid patients overall, in the ICU, and on a vent are vaxxed)
19. You need a booster shot
20. if you don't get the booster, you are no longer considered vaccinated
21. You need 2 booster shots...soon you'll need a booster for the variant (omicron) whose symptoms are very mild (normal cold-like) to undetectable
22. Communist countries like CA have had very restrictive mask/vaccine/shutdown policies the entire time and if they actually worked you'd think they'd be better off...not so much (see Florida, again)
23. our police, healthcare, workers, firemen, etc are being terminated for not taking the vaccine because of directives/mandates from our president, but the southern border is sieve of unvaxxed people
24. why is Pfizer (or whomever) worried enough about showing what is in these shots that they want the contents sealed for 75yrs?
25. Why does the doctor that developed the mRNA vaccine delivery system get ignored when he talks about this?
26. why was animal testing stopped?
27. why do we not hear much about the actual breakdown of who is actually getting really sick and/or dying from this? Average age is somewhere around 75yo and the vast majority are already quite sick (4 co-morbidities) and/or obese
28. why don't we see much, if any, push for people to maintain a healthy lifestyle? instead they want us to continue to get shot after shot after shot after shot after shot after shot...

i hope that gets my point across.
I agree. I think misinformation is the single biggest issue in this country. I think any unbiased person would agree with you on that. I also have a million questions that haven't been answered and I'm skeptical of the vaccine and other things myself.
 
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I agree. I think misinformation is the single biggest issue in this country. I think any unbiased person would agree with you on that. I also have a million questions that haven't been answered and I'm skeptical of the vaccine and other things myself.

But the official trusted sources are lying to you too. You simply aren't able to discern that like you are memes about microchips and 5g towers.
 

ryanbruner

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But the official trusted sources are lying to you too. You simply aren't able to discern that like you are memes about microchips and 5g towers.
I'm sure they are but the part where I disagree with folks on here is that people are lying to you who you trust. Political figures in particular. The current president is going on TV and lying to folks everyday about different things. Democrats refuse to believe that. In the same sense Trump went on TV and lied to you everyday and republicans to this day refuse to acknowledge that.

Its the same for every political and media figure. Everyone is pushing a narrative and it has become the American people's job to decipher the real message and move the ******** to the side.
 
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Its the same for every political and media figure. Everyone is pushing a narrative and it has become the American people's job to decipher the real message and move the ******** to the side.

That generality is 100% false, especially in the current state of our country. Only one side is pushing a narrative at this stage, and it has us in a world of hurt. I can decipher that just fine.
 

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You already know that reinfection is rare whether you have the vaccine or not. They tell you over and over again on their website that the chance of reinfection is extremely low regardless of vaccination status. You act as if people are trying to hide this information from you. I don't understand why there are groups of people who act as if the world is trying to hide the bigger picture from them. Everything is a scheme to withhold information.

Per the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html

"
  • Available evidence shows that fully vaccinatedindividuals and those previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 each have a low risk of subsequent infection for at least 6 months. Data are presently insufficient to determine an antibody titer threshold that indicates when an individual is protected from infection. At this time, there is no FDA-authorized or approved test that providers or the public can use to reliably determine whether a person is protected from infection.
    • The immunity provided by vaccine and prior infection are both high but not complete (i.e., not 100%).
    • Multiple studies have shown that antibody titers correlate with protection at a population level, but protective titers at the individual level remain unknown.
    • Whereas there is a wide range in antibody titers in response to infection with SARS-CoV-2, completion of a primary vaccine series, especially with mRNA vaccines, typically leads to a more consistent and higher-titer initial antibody response.
    • For certain populations, such as the elderly and immunocompromised, the levels of protection may be decreased following both vaccination and infection.
    • Current evidence indicates that the level of protection may not be the same for all viral variants.
    • The body of evidence for infection-induced immunity is more limited than that for vaccine-induced immunity in terms of the quality of evidence (e.g., probable bias towards symptomatic or medically-attended infections) and types of studies (e.g., observational cohort studies, mostly retrospective versus a mix of randomized controlled trials, case-control studies, and cohort studies for vaccine-induced immunity). There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.
  • Substantial immunologic evidence and a growing body of epidemiologic evidence indicate that vaccination after infection significantly enhances protection and further reduces risk of reinfection, which lays the foundation for CDC recommendations."
Still interesting that they have “substantial evidence” you’re better off to get the vaccine even if you had Covid but they don’t know the antibody threshold that says you won’t get sick. It’s almost like they would rather you just get a shot whether they knew if you needed it or not and if it was even beneficial for you vs the possible downside of getting the shot.
 
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Still interesting that they have “substantial evidence” you’re better off to get the vaccine even if you had Covid but they don’t know the antibody threshold that says you won’t get sick. It’s almost like they would rather you just get a shot whether they knew if you needed it or not and if it was even beneficial for you vs the possible downside of getting the shot.
Acquired/natural immunity is strong...strongest thing that exists against this for decently healthy people. I don't have the NYT - but i guess they are even mentioning it as a powerful tool.

 

ryanbruner

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That generality is 100% false, especially in the current state of our country. Only one side is pushing a narrative at this stage, and it has us in a world of hurt. I can decipher that just fine.
This isn’t true and you’re part of the issue if you truly believe this. Most of the issues in this country can be traced back to the 2 party system. There are some like you who only want their point of view spread and would rather have a totalitarian government based off the views of their party and their party only. There are others who believe that everyone should have the right to pursue and believe whatever they want within the confines of being a decent person.
 

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Still interesting that they have “substantial evidence” you’re better off to get the vaccine even if you had Covid but they don’t know the antibody threshold that says you won’t get sick. It’s almost like they would rather you just get a shot whether they knew if you needed it or not and if it was even beneficial for you vs the possible downside of getting the shot.
Most of this won’t matter because within a year or 2 we will find out if there are any issues with the vaccine. If not it will become just like every other vaccination we get yearly. Arguing back and forth does nothing because no one is changing their opinion on this subject. What will happen is going to happen regardless.
 
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cole854

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This isn’t true and you’re part of the issue if you truly believe this. Most of the issues in this country can be traced back to the 2 party system. There are some like you who only want their point of view spread and would rather have a totalitarian government based off the views of their party and their party only. There are others who believe that everyone should have the right to pursue and believe whatever they want within the confines of being a decent person.

Again w/ the generalities. I will be specific with the following disasters that are entirely resting on the shoulders of the current administration ....inflation, illegal immigration, foreign policy, supply chain, crime rates, forced unemployment, job market, weakening defense, and covid.

You have no argument to counter any of this that is infinitely worse in just 11 months that at any point in our lifetime.