Alone TV show on History Channel

alassnsane

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You are better off worrying about tripping over your own shoe laces and breaking your neck than probably even seeing one when you are hiking. If a mountain lion does attack then it is going to probably be a a young one only around 110 lbs or so. Much too small to think about attacking a large male human.

Thomas Harris, 26 - killed by one of those 'harmless' young lions you mentioned in of all places, Vancouver Island...where this show is filmed.
Scott Lancaster, 18 - Idaho Springs, CO
Mark Jeffrey Reynolds, 35 - Orange Co., CA
Robert Nawojski, 55 - Pinos Altos, NM

I would assume that the true number is actually somewhat higher. Given the rough country lions often occupy, and the unlikelihood of retrieving all remains under those conditions, others may simply end up among those listed as "missing".

Sorry, can't give you height, weight and eye color, those stats aren't listed so far as I know, and if they are I can't be arsed to dig them up, nor do I believe a hungry lion would stop too long to take measurements considering they routinely bring down game many times their own size.

There is no question prey viewed as more vulnerable is more likely to be picked off as most big cats excel at conserving energy when hunting...but your irresponsible comments implying near zero risk are based on flawed logic...of course you are far more likely to die via drowning in your bathtub versus being attacked by a lion...there are far more people bathing than hiking through lion country. This doesn't mean there is virtually no risk to a population living in the open in densely populated lion habitat.

A know-it-all is only annoying, until they begin disseminating potentially dangerous misinformation.
 

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Wayne is gone. Mitch, Alan, Sam and Lucas are the only 4 left.
Down to Alan and Sam. Thought Lucas had settled in pretty good, was surprised for him to leave.
Also don't recall ever seeing Alan, Sam or Lucas have any encounters with the wildlife. Luck of the draw or just better selection of where to build shelter?
 

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  1. Scott Lancaster weighed 130 lbs and was the first mountain lion fatality in the history of Colorado.
  2. Mark Jeffrey Reynolds probably died of a heart attack while mountain biking and the lion dragged his body away as the autopsy could " show no damage to his neck at all, or any damage indicative of an actual attack that caused his death." He was also a small man.
  3. Robert Nawojski was 55 years old.

A know-it-all is better than a know-nothing. You've provided nothing to contradict the assertion that a 6'2" 230lb man being attacked and killed by a mountain lion would be unprecedented. In 100 years there have been around 20 fatal attacks on humans by mountain lions and all of them are women, children, and fewer than 6 adult males of which none were large men.

Please stop disseminating stupid uninformed information. Stay in your kitchen if you are afraid of mountain lions. I've hiked solo around them and have no fear of being attacked unless I run right by one and show my back to it like some moron yuppie jogger thinking the wild is a safe place to put on your bicycle shorts and run by large wild predators.

In retrospect, morons like you should be afraid as if you do go out into the wild you are more than likely going to get hurt/killed by tripping on a dandelion and having a allergic reaction to testosterone and/or adrenaline you wuss.
 

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Down to Alan and Sam. Thought Lucas had settled in pretty good, was surprised for him to leave.
Also don't recall ever seeing Alan, Sam or Lucas have any encounters with the wildlife. Luck of the draw or just better selection of where to build shelter?
I loved Sam and Alan's attitude that they were not going to quit no matter what. Still, Alan is much more successful in the calorie game than Sam is as Sam is hanging on by sheer will power right now as he is not getting anything other than a small mouse every day or two. Alan will win this thing unless his head gets to him over his family. I loved it when he said they were either going to come and tell him he won or medivac him out of there. That's the attitude you need to have. The minute Mitch started talking about his mom I knew he was talking himself into tapping out.

I hope Sam gets something substantial to eat so he can give Alan a run for his money as otherwise he's just going to wear down until he can't go on.
 

alassnsane

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  1. Scott Lancaster weighed 130 lbs and was the first mountain lion fatality in the history of Colorado.
  2. Mark Jeffrey Reynolds probably died of a heart attack while mountain biking and the lion dragged his body away as the autopsy could " show no damage to his neck at all, or any damage indicative of an actual attack that caused his death." He was also a small man.
  3. Robert Nawojski was 55 years old.
A know-it-all is better than a know-nothing. You've provided nothing to contradict the assertion that a 6'2" 230lb man being attacked and killed by a mountain lion would be unprecedented. In 100 years there have been around 20 fatal attacks on humans by mountain lions and all of them are women, children, and fewer than 6 adult males of which none were large men.

Please stop disseminating stupid uninformed information. Stay in your kitchen if you are afraid of mountain lions. I've hiked solo around them and have no fear of being attacked unless I run right by one and show my back to it like some moron yuppie jogger thinking the wild is a safe place to put on your bicycle shorts and run by large wild predators.

In retrospect, morons like you should be afraid as if you do go out into the wild you are more than likely going to get hurt/killed by tripping on a dandelion and having a allergic reaction to testosterone and/or adrenaline you wuss.


My, my someone really did get their panties in a twist...who pissed in your Wheaties today, tough guy? Such hostility. I can't say it's surprising that you've so small an actual life, or such a glaring case of Napoleon Syndrome, that you felt compelled to so earnestly research my little post and then get so venomously lathered up about it.

Sadly for you, neither your or Crow's anecdotal experiences have any real bearing on this subject...it doesn't even matter if you both pranced from peak to peak on your many, über manly hiking adventures sporting nothing but muscle and meat tutus. You were unafraid and survived unscathed and we all should extrapolate from this titillating tidbit of info that, inversely, no danger exists. Really? Why?

On to your 'points'...
1. But, unfortunately for your argument, he wasn't the last.
2. "Amormino said that an autopsy had been completed on the first victim, Reynolds, with gruesome conclusions. "The autopsy concluded that he died from the removal of organs in the chest and abdomen," said Amormino. "It seems he was partially eaten."...seems a bit...hmmm...might the word be "moronic" to interpret those results as a heart attack. But hold the phone, you may be partially right, because I guess I might have a heart attack too were I being eaten alive...oh, and just for the record, this was another one of those "harmless" 110 pound lions.
3. And?....I'm assuming you accidentally omitted some info here because this is something less than a compelling rebuttal.

Let's call a spade a spade, shall we? For all your big boy posturing, you're not an expert; regardless how many walks you've taken. Neither am I, but it seems logical to me that a predator who routinely downs full grown elk might be unlikely to flinch too much from the idea or taking out a measly 200lb fluffy human were he hungry enough, but you're right, that isn't evidence, it's common sense. I find that the death via lion of an adult male human which occurred in the exact habitat that these contestants now occupy to be rather compelling evidence that there may be cause for caution and a heightened degree of the usual safety precautions employed due to the presence of large predators, regardless what difference in height might exist. I believe, as does the Mountain Lion Foundation, that good reason exists to be alert and exercise caution in lion dense habitats.

As to your numerous, vitriolic insults, I'm sure they made you feel real hard...but it's the height of idiocy to comment upon who I am, what I do or how I live when you haven't the first, or to be more precise, a single, clue. You believe me to be a wuss, well, I believe that you sound like a garden-variety, arrogant meathead, but I could be wrong. I'm not, as you imply, afraid of the wild. In fact, it's pretty much my church...but unlike you I don't consider it admirable, or brave, to be incautious or arrogant in my approach to large predators. I respect the natural world and work with her and exercise proper respect. This isn't fear, it's intelligence and instinct at work. Unlike you, I have nothing to prove by taking pride in stupidly conducting myself as if I were always the apex predator...but hey, feel free to go out there and get as chummy or careless as you like with large predators; I'm sure they'll appreciate it in due course.
 

alassnsane

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Down to Alan and Sam. Thought Lucas had settled in pretty good, was surprised for him to leave.
Also don't recall ever seeing Alan, Sam or Lucas have any encounters with the wildlife. Luck of the draw or just better selection of where to build shelter?

My guess would be the latter. From all I've seen I don't think it coincidental that the final three possessed very strong wilderness survival skill sets and that they exercised knowledge, and consistent care, pertaining to both food prep and handling in general.

I have to say Sam has surprised and impressed me. Day one I had him pegged to be one of the first to tap out. So as much as I still expect Alan to prevail, it wouldn't surprise me at all were Sam to win.
 

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My best guess is that Alan wins. He has a far better shelter. And Alan's last meal was a pot full of fish and greens while Sam had his daily mouse.

I'll be glad when this show is over. It's been kinda cool. But all the emotional breakdowns and crying is a bit hard to watch. I totally get it...the missing of your wife and kids. Being afraid of the predators. The stress over possibly missing the birth of your first born. Regret over possibly not getting to say goodbye to your dying mom. But it's not easy to watch as a TV show. I tune in to see survival techniques. If I wanted to watch emotional distress (I don't!) I'd watch Lifetime or WE channels.
 

Barong23

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That's why Lucas was amazing. Literally every time he was in a shot you could see all the work he had been doing on his shelters and he perpetually had something new he had created. I was really bummed to see him tap. I am convinced if this challenge were to the death then he would have been the last one standing.
 

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Welp, I figured Alan would win after the first episode, nailed that. Don't count out the southern country boys, ever.
Sam surprised me though, I figured he would go out earlier just because he seemed sort of dopey.

Pretty good show overall, wonder where the next one will be located?
 

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Welp, I figured Alan would win after the first episode, nailed that. Don't count out the southern country boys, ever.
Sam surprised me though, I figured he would go out earlier just because he seemed sort of dopey.

Pretty good show overall, wonder where the next one will be located?
Who won, Alan?
 

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the guy is correct. Mountain lion attack IS near-zero risk. Every year in the US 800,000 people are dog bitten badly enough to need medical care. vs 10 people attacked by cougars in all of N America per year. You dont worry a lick about the dogs, much less about the millions of attacks by PEOPLE, so why worry about cougars?

Season 4 was totally different, being 2 person teams. Season 3 was much easier, because they were on a lake in patagonia, instead of that horrible sea coast on Vancouver. Seasons 1 and 2, they were given a 10x10 tarp and a 20x20 tarp, so using one of your 10 picks on a 12x`12 tarp would be silly. So would taking a 2 qt pot instead of a 2 gallon (metal) bear canister, which WAS an option for seasons 1 and 2, but nobody thought of it. You CAN still take a 5 qt skillet, tho, (amazon) and almost nobody is smart enough to do so. I"d have taken one of Chief Aj's slingbows, with the 6 arrows, 4 of them having 4-tined fishing heads, which can swiftly be converted into being 32 fishhooks. Take a modified Crunch multitool, with a Silky saw blade to be held in the visegrip. Take one of Cold Steel's shovels, modified to have a REAL saw edge. Take one 5 lb ration of pemmican, mixed with gorp. Take a PARACORD hammock and PARACORD gillnet, so that you can unravel them, remove the outer sheathing and and weave 100m of 6 ft wide, 3" mesh netting. Take the big roll of duct tape, a canvas and wool sleeping bag (so that you can dry it out with hot rocks) and 8 treblehooks and the fishline. The hooks are best used to catch ducks and gulls, set on small log rafts, baited with roasted cambium. You have to catch lots of fish and fowl, so that you can create a BIG hole in the ground, filled with guts and fishheads, covered with small logs, staked into the ground, so coons, skunks and possums dont get it. set "boxtraps" for those smaller critters nearby, made out of the netting and sapling frames. They give you a trail cam that will tell you when to be in the tree-platform/blind that you've created, whereever you best can do so, and bait the bears there. YOu can legally arrow 2 of them and one, if preserved with recovered salt from seawater and smoked, will win the 1/2 million $ prize for you.
 
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aloan

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for season 4, things have changed. they have 7 2-person teams. You get 16 picks,not just 10,, but 6 of those picks must be a sleeping bag, belt knife and ferro rod for each member of the team. The hiker, who must traverse 10 miles of rain forest and find his camp-partner, should have a kukri as his belt knife, and the camper should have a Japanese saw, which has had the back of the blade sharpened to be a knife. The other 10 picks should be 2 of the (now 2 lb) food rations, the 12x12 tarp, the fishhooks and line, a PARACORD gillnet and PARACORD hammock, the modified Crunch multitool, one of Chief Aj's slingbows and the 6 arrows, the 5 qt skillet, the big roll of duct tape,