Amile Jefferson Out Indefinitely
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God this is awful. Our season is over. 8 seed here we come. If we're lucky. Too bad we don't have a good coach, or at least one who knows how to make adjustments. I know this Krzyzewski guy has never had anything like this happen in his career.
Seriously I love Amile and what he has done for this team. I was cheering for Amile and his changes when most of you were saying he'll never change from what he was in the past.
But his role can be filled. It won't be exactly the same and the production is not going to be same. Marshall and Chase won't just go and replace a double double. But losing Grayson or Ingram or even Thornton would be worse IMO. You'll call me crazy I'm sure but Amile's position and role are replaceable to a degree. 5 less points and rebounds between Chase and Marshall won't kill this team contrary to dramatic belief.
Seriously I love Amile and what he has done for this team. I was cheering for Amile and his changes when most of you were saying he'll never change from what he was in the past.
But his role can be filled. It won't be exactly the same and the production is not going to be same. Marshall and Chase won't just go and replace a double double. But losing Grayson or Ingram or even Thornton would be worse IMO. You'll call me crazy I'm sure but Amile's position and role are replaceable to a degree. 5 less points and rebounds between Chase and Marshall won't kill this team contrary to dramatic belief.
I guarantee it's the Nikes. That is a narrow shoe that is hard on the foot. I promise the shoes are an issue. I did a research project on it.
I don't see much of a meltdown. It will be felt and may take some time to rekindle the rotation but your right, K will make the most of it.
Non of that makes up for the fact that Amile, a kid who deserves nothing but the best. Caught a dang tough break!!!! I hate it for Amile is what pisses me off the most
Non of that makes up for the fact that Amile, a kid who deserves nothing but the best. Caught a dang tough break!!!! I hate it for Amile is what pisses me off the most
A bit dramatic aren't we? He'll be back by February and Duke will somehow, someway find a way to win.
For the record, Amile has been dealing with this since late August early September.
You and I both. I love what Amile has done for Duke. As far back as postponing his recruitment to allow Duke back in. K loves this kid. He's been so good for us. I don't think Amile can be replaced, but his role is one that can be filled that's all.
More has to come out but yes. No surgery means he's back sooner. Something he has going for him is that he doesn't have a lot of weight on a frame that doesn't hold it well. Kyrie and Ryan both weighed more than what is naturally on their respective frames. Amile doesn't have that issue. I'm saying February.
Not sure if you're being tongue-in-cheek, but my wife and I are both runners and 100% agree, Nikes are terrible for running, provide no support.
No irony at all. Nikes are some of the worst shoes out there. There are a few models that are ok, but for the most part, they provide terrible support.
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Not to derail this thread but Laura Keeley is the prophet of doom no matter what happens with re: to Duke. I don't want a Duke beat writer to be a total homer but a little "homerism" is ok. Anecdotal but it just seems like everything she writes about Duke is either negative or semi-negative. I'm surprised she didn't say Amile's foot will be amputated and Duke will shut down their program. An' not fer nuthin' anything she's ever written about the unx scandal has had a tone of "everybody does it and/or the violations aren't particularly egregious." Anyway , this sux for Amile and I hope he's back soon.
I'm sorry, but what has Obi proven to just slide him into Amile's spot? If you're answer is only because he's 6'9 and big then you're kind of missing the point.
Initially, I think this obviously increases the playing time of Chase Jeter. Also of BI. And Kennard.
Jeter probably becomes a 10-15 minutes per night guy. We see BI slide over to the face-up four position more, giving more minutes to Luke on the perimeter. In all honesty, I'm not sure it expands our rotation.
Initially, I think this obviously increases the playing time of Chase Jeter. Also of BI. And Kennard.
Jeter probably becomes a 10-15 minutes per night guy. We see BI slide over to the face-up four position more, giving more minutes to Luke on the perimeter. In all honesty, I'm not sure it expands our rotation.
Oh? So this was more cumulative than a massive practice injury? That and no surgery do sound promising for a possible February return.
I heard Capel say on the weekly radio show that Obi is working hard to get into shape and may see some time in games with a slower pace. That's about as revealing a statement as we ever get about guys, and it's pretty easy to connect the dots and see why he has only played 5 minutes all year.
Marshall's minutes will increase. Chase's minutes will increase. Brandon will see more time at the 4 and Luke's minutes will increase in more 3 1/2 guard sets. I agree that our rotation will just absorb Amile's minutes into the PT of guys already getting minutes.
Count me among those that think this means a lot more "going small" than it does plugging Jeter in. The line-up with Ingram at the four will be the primary I think.
As far as the Nikes, a lot of teams are sponsored by them, including the vast majority of the blue bloods. Does any other team that wears Nikes have the foot problem history Duke does?
As far as the Nikes, a lot of teams are sponsored by them, including the vast majority of the blue bloods. Does any other team that wears Nikes have the foot problem history Duke does?
Everyone keeps saying February, but do we have any basis for that other than our own speculation?
Amile is a senior captain. He's playing 30 minutes a game and averaging about 11 and 11--which is twice that of last year. He is the ACC's leading offensive rebounder and he is the only player on our team that can get his own basket in the block. Let's not diminish what he means to our team.
According to Pomeroy we have the #1 adj offense and #40 adj defense in the country. Amile is one of the only reasons our defense is not alot worse. If we can keep it under 50 without Amile that should be cause for celebration.
Amile is a senior captain. He's playing 30 minutes a game and averaging about 11 and 11--which is twice that of last year. He is the ACC's leading offensive rebounder and he is the only player on our team that can get his own basket in the block. Let's not diminish what he means to our team.
According to Pomeroy we have the #1 adj offense and #40 adj defense in the country. Amile is one of the only reasons our defense is not alot worse. If we can keep it under 50 without Amile that should be cause for celebration.
dukehokie, I love your optimism, but we really hurt now in the rebound department. Look how many of those under the board quick grabs Amile makes. I love Amile, he always comes up with something special right on time and he really gets the team pumped at times. Get well son, we need you !
His leadership, defense and rebounding on both ends of the floor is going to be hard to replace. I can't help but think over the last three years of the improvement he's made an also of how critical we sometimes have been of him. Most recruits don't become instant stars. They evolve over time to become very important parts of Duke's success. Both Amile and Marshall are great examples of these type of players and we have them every year and now we have lost Amile for an unknown period of time and all of a sudden realize how important he is. Now it's time for others to step up and become leaders, defensive players and take up the slack and hope Amile's absence is not long. OFC
W/o Amile's rebounding on the defensive end, we're likely to need more of a committee approach, meaning we're going to be less prepared to transition quickly and get some secondary break baskets. On the offensive end, I don't see much hope that we're not conceding practically every rebound or being very susceptible to opponents' fast break.
Dat touched on it above. Offensive rebounding is obviously going to take a hit unless someone can man up and take it upon themselves to do it. Sometimes seeing a teammate go down lights a fire so we'll see if that happens. I'm just not willing to write these kids off as dead in the water. The first few games may be brutal. It might be ugly, but I have seen plenty of Duke teams and other college teams rebound from something like this.
I am in the camp that Nike's are just not good for your feet. I always used Addidas when playing hoops after having foot issues using Nike. Maybe this is just coincidence but i am not in the Nike camp.
Huge blow, Amile was a very big part of what we needed. Having a fantastic season, really hope the February talk is true. Getting guys in place, steady defense, rebounding and his points are going to be missed.
Valuable time to develop for Chase, however.
Valuable time to develop for Chase, however.
Amile led Duke in double-doubles. He will be missed? Captain Obvious says "Yes"! Can he be replaced? That's a funny question since we have other players. Injuries are part of the game and Coach K and staff work with what they have. I think other players (read -- Jeter) are about to experience a rapid basketball maturing event -- time to step up.
Here is what I do know. Amile on the sideline will the LOUDEST guy not on the floor supporting the team.
Here is what I do know. Amile on the sideline will the LOUDEST guy not on the floor supporting the team.
To this board's credit, I don't think many (if any) did that in this thread. The responses have been pretty level-headed I think.
Amile clearly embraced his role as a leader on this team. I feel badly for any player who gets hurt and misses any part of the season, but this one seems particularly unfair. Here's a young man who worked so hard for 3+ years to develop his game, his body and his leadership only to get taken out by a bad foot. He deserves more.
The team will evolve. Coach K will shuffle and fill gaps. That's what he does. Remember "8 is enough"? Others will step up. We will win more games this season. We will contend. I just hope Amile is back on the court soon more for him than for us.
Alan
The team will evolve. Coach K will shuffle and fill gaps. That's what he does. Remember "8 is enough"? Others will step up. We will win more games this season. We will contend. I just hope Amile is back on the court soon more for him than for us.
Alan
That wasn't directed at everyone. If it doesn't apply, then so be it. It was meant for discussion, since this is a discussion board.
I just saw a pic of Amile with a couple of other players inside CIS (I assume taken sometime today not long before tonight's game) and his foot is in what appears to be a plaster cast. I wonder if that's a sign that it's some kind of broken bone in his foot. Someone commented on the post that pic was in and said it's a fracture. Anyone heard anything about it?
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Stress fracture is what I've read on EK, with the hard cast meaning no surgery planned and no timetable yet on when a recovery timetable will be announced. Just what I've read, no idea as to the validity.