An article about a common problem men have a hard time grasping

[Levibooty]

There are some people---men--- who think of themselves as well read and certainly intelligent. Here is food for thought.

http://www.bodyforwife.com/mass-murderers-are-terrorists-we-need-to-call-them-that/

 

[Hank Camacho]

This is absolute gibberish and written by someone with no earthly idea how to effectively reason.

Terrorism = violence for political effect
Mass shootings = nihilism? we don't really know

Both are terrible but to confuse definitions is stupid and insipid.

 

[BigBlueDave_rivals76951]

Regardless of ideology, men bad.

Down with toxic masculinity.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

This is an example of how things can go terribly wrong when a writer is paid by the word. Hundreds of them here serving no purpose but to attempt to obscure the fact that the writer had absolutely nothing new or provocative or even intelligent to say.

 

[Col. Angus]

I don't get it

 

[funKYcat75]

This toxic masculinity is killing me. I better go pick up some estrogen on the way home from the gun range.

 

[Joneslab]

The Texas shooter seems to've been so crazy the very idea of "masculinity" was probably outside his understanding.

When you're deranged I don't believe you think in these philosophical terms. This guy seems to have just wanted to kill people. Like the Newtown shooter, he's one of those poor souls who probably should have been smothered under a pillow as a kid.

Masculinity might lead somebody to buy a few guns and show them off to their buddies or something like that. I know guys who want to "protect their families" out of some kind of masculine ideal. But those people are very rarely (read: never) the types who carry out mass shootings.

 

[Hank Camacho]

The only thing worse than the OP's article:

 

[MegaBlue05]

Not reading that. I got through four paragraphs and said nah.

I can tell you what we can learn from mass shooters: A majority of them are f'd in the brain and have a history of domestic abuse.

Abusers likely grew up being abused or witnessing abuse. It's a vicious cycle that repeats itself by generation.

Maybe we could slow this **** down by identifying WHY people choose to be abusive and maybe treating mental health issues as a serious health issue rather than stigmatizing it as something only "soft" people talk about. Masculinity has nothing to do with it.

 

[warrior-cat]

Regardless of ideology, men bad.

Down with toxic masculinity.

Yes but, not with the Toxic Avenger.

 

[DSmith21]

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

He calls it right wing extremism...odd, most mass shooters are liberal.

VA tech, San Bernardino, pulse, beltway sniper, etc, etc...i thought he said all of them were white?

Only this fool is making it a race issue...pathetic

 

[JDHoss]

What it is, is just full on bat **** crazy. The right/left wing, other political, religious deity of your choice, anger issues at work/personal life, or your dog giving you cryptic messages with the way he eats his Milk Bones are just a little flavoring for the masses so they can point a finger at a problem....but the main ingredient is a 55 gallon drum of industrial strength Bat **** Crazy. People who do what this guy did on Sunday, or any of the other mass shootings, it boils down to being crazy. Sane people don't do **** like this. We need to do a better job of identifying, helping and keeping track of people with problems, be it mental or anger issues.

 

[ScrewDuke1]

That article is really, really dumb. So many points can be refuted, but I'd be here all night typing them out and its not like the OP would care anyway.

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

The website is bodyforwife.com

He loves his wife

He wants to be in shape for his wife.

He is a proto homo

His **** can be disregarded as his being correct would be accidental rather than logic driven

 

[Crushgroove]

Damn, OP. Post more stuff.

People here seem to love your takes.

 

[starchief]

There are some people---men--- who think of themselves as well read and certainly intelligent. Here is food for thought.

http://www.bodyforwife.com/mass-murderers-are-terrorists-we-need-to-call-them-that/

And, then, there are eggheads.

 

[USSLair]

I'll pass on reading that garbage.

 

[jameslee32]

More guns + more ammo + more wackos = more murders + more politicizing + more profiling

 

[coach-2]

There are some people---men--- who think of themselves as well read and certainly intelligent. Here is food for thought.

http://www.bodyforwife.com/mass-murderers-are-terrorists-we-need-to-call-them-that/

I just call them Democrats.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html?smid=fb-share

The United States is one of only three countries, along with Mexico and Guatemala, that begin with the opposite assumption: that people have an inherent right to own guns.

The main reason American regulation of gun ownership is so weak may be the fact that the trade-offs are simply given a different weight in the United States than they are anywhere else.

After Britain had a mass shooting in 1987, the country instituted strict gun control laws. So did Australia after a 1996 shooting. But the United States has repeatedly faced the same calculus and determined that relatively unregulated gun ownership is worth the cost to society.

That choice, more than any statistic or regulation, is what most sets the United States apart.

“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges, a British journalist, wrote in a post on Twitter two years ago, referring to the 2012 attack that killed 20 young students at an elementary school in Connecticut. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

Leave it to brits to not understand the second amendment.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Nope.

We have a cultural problem that is uniquely ours to deal with. You can’t compare us to anyone else; silly Brits are the most naive in this respect thinking because we dress as bad as them and eat the same crappy food and speak their language we must be like them.

We are not.

And you aren’t like whatever other European country either you might compare to either, certainly not the Swiss which love guns as much as your average Texan does. Speaking of which, this guy and men like him need their guns.

This country needs the second amendment as much as it needs the first.

 

[UK_ Alum_02]

Stopped reading at Canadian.

 

[WildcatofNati]

He calls it right wing extremism...odd, most mass shooters are liberal.

VA tech, San Bernardino, pulse, beltway sniper, etc, etc...i thought he said all of them were white?

Only this fool is making it a race issue...pathetic

To his credit, he actually went out of his way to make it clear that it is not a race issue, and that whites are NOT disproportionately doing these shootings. To his discredit, instead of going the anti-white route, he went the anti-man route.

 

[warrior-cat]

More guns + more ammo + more wackos = more murders + more politicizing + more profiling

Goosestepping + lemming +liberal =loser.

 

[warrior-cat]

What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html?smid=fb-share

The United States is one of only three countries, along with Mexico and Guatemala, that begin with the opposite assumption: that people have an inherent right to own guns.

The main reason American regulation of gun ownership is so weak may be the fact that the trade-offs are simply given a different weight in the United States than they are anywhere else.

After Britain had a mass shooting in 1987, the country instituted strict gun control laws. So did Australia after a 1996 shooting. But the United States has repeatedly faced the same calculus and determined that relatively unregulated gun ownership is worth the cost to society.

That choice, more than any statistic or regulation, is what most sets the United States apart.

“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges, a British journalist, wrote in a post on Twitter two years ago, referring to the 2012 attack that killed 20 young students at an elementary school in Connecticut. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”

Australia is back to and above pre-gun grab levels with killings at an all time low. Poor choice of examples. England is enjoying constant problems with muslim attacks. How in the world do you think you guys are going to convince people to believe your BS when you continue to use the worse examples possible. You guys really are lost in this world.

 

[CastleRubric]

This is an example of how things can go terribly wrong when a writer is paid by the word. Hundreds of them here serving no purpose but to attempt to obscure the fact that the writer had absolutely nothing new or provocative or even intelligent to say.

Didn't read it

More interested in mass shooters and what % are

1) On SSRI's
2) Have/had contact with irregular USG assets
3) Have/had brain procedures performed

etc

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Australia is back to and above pre-gun grab levels with killings at an all time low. Poor choice of examples. England is enjoying constant problems with muslim attacks. How in the world do you think you guys are going to convince people to believe your BS when you continue to use the worse examples possible. You guys really are lost in this world.

It's not my "BS." I didn't write the article. Try working on your reading comprehension.

And the murder rate in Australia recently reached an all-time low since the gun ban and homicides have clearly decreased since the gun ban. Considering the article cites America's quantity of guns + the right to own guns, I don't see how that qualifies as a "worse example" (FYI, it should be worst, not worse as you stated)
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/

 

[jameslee32]

Goosestepping + lemming +liberal =loser.

Idiot + Stalker + Whiner = Pvssy

 

[warrior-cat]

It's not my "BS." I didn't write the article. Try working on your reading comprehension.

And the murder rate in Australia recently reached an all-time low since the gun ban and homicides have clearly decreased since the gun ban. Considering the article cites America's quantity of guns + the right to own guns, I don't see how that qualifies as a "worse example" (FYI, it should be worst, not worse as you stated)
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/

Try reading more on the situation there as gun levels are back higher than before and shootings are still going down. It is this normal disingenuous style of postings that show you for what you really are, corrupt as your hero's on the left.

 

[warrior-cat]

Idiot + Stalker + Whiner = Pvssy

Describes basically every snowflake liberal including you, well done.

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

What it is, is just full on bat **** crazy. The right/left wing, other political, religious deity of your choice, anger issues at work/personal life, or your dog giving you cryptic messages with the way he eats his Milk Bones are just a little flavoring for the masses so they can point a finger at a problem....but the main ingredient is a 55 gallon drum of industrial strength Bat **** Crazy. People who do what this guy did on Sunday, or any of the other mass shootings, it boils down to being crazy. Sane people don't do **** like this. We need to do a better job of identifying, helping and keeping track of people with problems, be it mental or anger issues.

Facebook has proved to me that there damned sure ain't even a handful of sane people on all the continents combined.

 

[JDHoss]

This issue really hit home for me this past Thursday. While we were on vacation, we saw on our hometown news website that there was an ongoing situation where someone who had shot two police officers and had barricaded himself in his home. A friend called me later that evening to tell me that it was a guy we had worked with for years. I knew him well, my wife and the rest of our family knew him. He was retired and in August we have an annual retirees reunion party for our work group. It was the first time I'd seen him since the last reunion, and he was really off kilter and everybody noticed it. He went around pestering people and wanting to talk about the bible, and pretty much just talking in circles. Everybody was like WTF is wrong with him?

About two weeks later, he makes an appearance in the news as he was arrested for aggravated stalking. It was also revealed that he had been arrested in July for harassment and had been involuntarily committed to a mental facility at some point.

Last Thursday he got into an argument with his neighbor, and the neighbor called 911. A cop car arrived, and he already had an outstanding warrant for failure to appear. He stepped out and (rumor) pumped two shells from a shotgun, hitting the two officers. One was treated and released, but the other had to have surgery. The SWAT team later entered his home and found him dead, but they don't know if he shot himself or the officers he shot at hit him.

I've known him for 34+ years and never saw him show any signs of violence. He was divorced, but remained friends with his ex. He was a bit OCD when it came to his possessions and appearance. His home, vehicles and boat were always spotless. He loved to hunt and fish. I really don't know WTF was going on with him, but.....

.......when he was involuntarily committed, and arrested twice, is this sufficient to have his guns removed? If not, then what? This didn't make the national news, but it would have if the officers had been killed, which could have easily happened.

http://www.timesnews.net/Law-Enforc...ad-two-recent-arrests.html?ci=stream&lp=8&p=1

 

[santamaria78]

it's hard to grasp because it doesn't exist. It's like "fog of war" (Hillary Clinton's Benghazi)
or "Institutional racism" (it exists we swear) "white privilege" , "toxic masculinity" ---do you see a trend here? They are manipulation tools to take over western civilization and target a certain demographic. at its core.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Try reading more on the situation there as gun levels are back higher than before and shootings are still going down. It is this normal disingenuous style of postings that show you for what you really are, corrupt as your hero's on the left.

How about you show evidence to prove your point instead of just expecting everyone to believe you like some fake news organization?

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

it's hard to grasp because it doesn't exist. It's like "fog of war" (Hillary Clinton's Benghazi)
or "Institutional racism" (it exists we swear) "white privilege" , "toxic masculinity" ---do you see a trend here? They are manipulation tools to take over western civilization and target a certain demographic. at its core.

So you don't believe in white privilege? I have to ask, why? And you don't think some institutions are inherently racist?

 

[santamaria78]

So you don't believe in white privilege? I have to ask, why? And you don't think some institutions are inherently racist?

no I don't believe in white privilege. I think some people are privileged to many things. Blacks are super athletic, whites tend to be less athletic less violent more family oriented than blacks. Blacks by in large group togather (90% vote democrat party, NAACP, African American identity.) Black culture is unique and when you compare that sort of cultural uniqueness (things like murder, no father house holds, total dependency on the government) then normalcy (white culture) looks like privilege to black culture b/c it is completely rotted. That's not white peoples' fault and it's a ******** narrative.

I think the NAACP is inherently racist, I think BET channel is inherently racist, I think anything that excludes someone openly based on race and Caucasian is just as equal a race as African American, then I think it's inherently racist. It's not racist that a majority of black males are super predators (Hillary Clinton's term) and commit a **** ton of violent crimes.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

White privilege doesn’t exist because there is no evidence of it. It has nothing to do with what one may choose to believe or how one feels.

The same goes for institutionalized racism.

If you would like to be decimated in a debate on this, I will do so.

 

[BigBlueDave_rivals76951]

How about you show evidence to prove your point instead of just expecting everyone to believe you like some fake news organization?

Australia Buyback and Destruction Totals from University of Sydney = ~1.1 million

http://www.gunpolicy.org/documents/...m-amnesty-buyback-and-destruction-totals/file


Australian Firearm Import Totals 1995-2015 form University of Sydney =~ 1.1 million

http://www.gunpolicy.org/documents/5344-australia-firearm-imports-1995-2012-customs/file

All of their sources are cited.

That looks like a wash. Maybe there are other factors.