An article about a common problem men have a hard time grasping

Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
White privilege doesn’t exist because there is no evidence of it. It has nothing to do with what one may choose to believe or how one feels.

The same goes for institutionalized racism.

If you would like to be decimated in a debate on this, I will do so.
What would even be gained by debating the topic if you refuse to believe there is even evidence? Would be as big of a waste of time as debating a devout Christian about if God is real or not.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
Evidence is not somehing which requires belief either.

If that is a foreign concept to you then indeed this would be a waste of your time and mine. If it is not, Boston is one of the most historically racist cities in the world; you should be able to come up with mounds of evidence which does not require belief in your local area alone.
 

warrior-cat

Well-known member
Oct 22, 2004
190,049
4,551
113
What would even be gained by debating the topic if you refuse to believe there is even evidence? Would be as big of a waste of time as debating a devout Christian about if God is real or not.
You would not believe the evidence anyway regardless. You posted your evidence earlier disregarding evidence also to the contrary on Australia's gun totals. You believe only what you want to believe because if fits your agenda.
 

IdaCat

Well-known member
May 8, 2004
68,809
1,290
113
What would even be gained by debating the topic if you refuse to believe there is even evidence? Would be as big of a waste of time as debating a devout Christian about if God is real or not.

:flush:

Make your case Boston. Nobody cares about your faith. Show your evidence. I want to see CRO rip your ***.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
Maybe he's googling and keeps coming up with evidence which does require belief like, "College student spray paints racial slurs on his own car."

Guess I'll check back in tomorrow.
 

warrior-cat

Well-known member
Oct 22, 2004
190,049
4,551
113
Maybe he's googling and keeps coming up with evidence which does require belief like, "College student spray paints racial slurs on his own car."

Guess I'll check back in tomorrow.
He is just looking for one that does not tell the whole story and fits his agenda.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
He is just looking for one that does not tell the whole story and fits his agenda.

Ok then, maybe I'll stay on thread topic and give the whole story to his previous post where he wants compare US to a country with less guns. How about we look at a country with more guns like Somalia who has been at civil war for decades. Why is it that with all those guns not once did someone go on a shooting spree because they...

Couldn't get laid



Coming off their meds





Wanted to see world burn in written manifesto



Or apparently? just wanted to go out setting a record

 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
Evidence is not somehing which requires belief either.

If that is a foreign concept to you then indeed this would be a waste of your time and mine. If it is not, Boston is one of the most historically racist cities in the world; you should be able to come up with mounds of evidence which does not require belief in your local area alone.
My local area is not Boston. Born and raised in Virginia.
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
I'm not debating someone if they refuse to recognize that another side of an argument exists by stating there is no evidence of it. I learned long ago it's a waste of time by arguing with my dad over political stuff. I'd have better luck changing someone's opinion if I debated against a wall.
 

IdaCat

Well-known member
May 8, 2004
68,809
1,290
113
I'm not debating someone if they refuse to recognize that another side of an argument exists by stating there is no evidence of it. I learned long ago it's a waste of time by arguing with my dad over political stuff. I'd have better luck changing someone's opinion if I debated against a wall.

You don't want to debate CRO because you have no supporting evidence. You are brainwashed by the radical left postmodern Marxist identity politics which is currently destroying our country. It is your religion. Pull your head out of your ***, do some objective research, and wake the f*** up.
 
Last edited:

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
I recognize that these ideas exist. What I want from you is evidence and a reasoned argument that proves they are reality.

This isn't hard.

I'm not your Dad, and am perfectly willing to change my position on most any issue, but I need concrete evidence and a reasoned argument for a solution.
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
You don't want to debate CRO because you have no supporting evidence. You are brainwashed by the radical left postmodern Marxist identity politics which is currently destroying our country. It is your religion. Pull your head out of your ***, do some objective research, and wake the f*** up.
lol at this whole idiotic post completely lacking of all knowledge and logic, simply throwing out a bunch of extreme right wing propaganda words so he can be the cool kid on the block with all his MAGA friends. SAD!

I've voted Libertarian - Gary Johnson - in the last two Presidential elections. How Marxist of me, voting for a presidential candidate from a political party that has conservative economic viewpoints! Though I think some of their economic opinions would be catastrophic if enacted, such as the abolishment of the minimum wage, but generally more in agreement than in disagreement. ALmost completely in agreement on the social viewpoints, minus the complete deregulation of firearms.
 

IdaCat

Well-known member
May 8, 2004
68,809
1,290
113
lol at this whole idiotic post completely lacking of all knowledge and logic, simply throwing out a bunch of extreme right wing propaganda words so he can be the cool kid on the block with all his MAGA friends. SAD!

I've voted Libertarian - Gary Johnson - in the last two Presidential elections. How Marxist of me, voting for a presidential candidate from a political party that has conservative economic viewpoints! Though I think some of their economic opinions would be catastrophic if enacted, such as the abolishment of the minimum wage, but generally more in agreement than in disagreement. ALmost completely in agreement on the social viewpoints, minus the complete deregulation of firearms.

I don’t GAF who you voted for. You’re ignorant. The terminology I used is not extreme right. Just heard Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson discussing it the other day. Stop trying to deflect and support your assertions.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
That's all I've asked for.

And all I've got was essentially, " I believe in this and you don't, so therefore any discussion would be a waste of time"

Are you going to support your claims with any evidence other than some people believe this to be true so it therefore must be?
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
I don’t GAF who you voted for. You’re ignorant. The terminology I used is not extreme right. Just heard Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson discussing it the other day. Stop trying to deflect and support your assertions.
Typical political propaganda for someone to throw out when they don't know their head from their *** but want all their friends to think they're cool [roll]

Institutional racism - many of these can also be applied to white privilege since a person that is white is less harmed or more benefitted simply becuase they are white
For example, why is it that, even today, there is a 33 percent economic differential between blacks and whites? Is it because corporations are racist and won’t hire African Americans for higher paying jobs?

Mostly, no. Over 80 percent of the time, as Harvard economist Roland Fryer has shown, it’s because black applicants lack the very specific skills to get the better job—and that’s because communities of color are woefully undereducated in underperforming schools. Indeed, the best predictor of one’s subsequent economic success is one’s skill level in eighth grade.

That’s the kind of structural racism that disparate impact reasoning addresses. You might not find any individual racist, but the system is stacked against people of color. That’s how privilege and oppression are maintained—not by villains like Dylann Roof, but by silent, macroeconomic factors that are structural in nature.

Likewise in housing contexts. For decades, the practice of “redlining”—banks and realtors “encouraging” blacks not to move into white neighborhoods—perpetuated segregation and urban blight. And even when overt race-based policies were abandoned, majority-POC neighborhoods were locked in cycles of crime, under-education, and neglect by “neutral” policies regarding public housing, zoning, business permitting, and highway development.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/supreme-court-institutional-racism-is-real

Black preschoolers make up 18 percent of the pre-school population, but represent almost half of all out-of-school suspensions
https://www.npr.org/sections/codesw...-preschoolers-far-more-likely-to-be-suspended

Once you get to K-12, black children are three times more likely to be suspended than white children. Black students make up almost 40 percent of all school expulsions, and more than two thirds of students referred to police from schools are either black or Hispanic
Even disabled black children suffer from institutional racism. About a fifth of disabled children are black – yet they account for 44 and 42 percent of disabled students put in mechanical restraints or placed in seclusion.
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/crdc-discipline-snapshot.pdf

Black children are 18 times more likely to be sentenced as adults than white children, and make up nearly 60 percent of children in prisons.
http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/psp-a0035663.pdf

Black juvenile offenders are much more likely to be viewed as adults in juvenile detention proceedings than their white counterparts.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0036680

InBlack college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/20/black-college-graduates_n_5358983.html

People with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.
http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person.
http://www.reformer.com/reformereditorials/ci_19992621

Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.
On the New Jersey Turnpike, for instance, blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites. In New York City, blacks and Hispanics were three and four times as likely to be stopped and frisked as whites.
If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.
http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_ICCPR Race and Justice Shadow Report.pdf

Racial bias in jury selection is ridiculous – qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.
The result? About a quarter of juries in death penalty cases have no black jurors, and more than two-thirds have two or less. When a black person is accused of killing a white person – and the jury consists of five or more white males – the odds go way up for a death penalty verdict.
Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.
http://www.eji.org/raceandpoverty/juryselection

Whites and blacks represent about half of murder victims from year to year, but 77 percent of people who are executed killed a white person, while only 13 percent of death row executions represent those who killed a black person.
http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_ICCPR Race and Justice Shadow Report.pdf
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
Good, I was beginning to think you weren't going to be bothered with producing anything.

Before I unpack all that, is what you are saying is that white privilege kicks in once a white person has committed a crime? Does institutional racism exist in any other institution other than the judicial system?

And that it is more difficult for a black person to find a job than it is a white?

Anything else?
 

FrankUnderwood

New member
May 26, 2017
15,912
2
0
lol at this whole idiotic post completely lacking of all knowledge and logic, simply throwing out a bunch of extreme right wing propaganda words so he can be the cool kid on the block with all his MAGA friends. SAD!

I've voted Libertarian - Gary Johnson - in the last two Presidential elections. How Marxist of me, voting for a presidential candidate from a political party that has conservative economic viewpoints! Though I think some of their economic opinions would be catastrophic if enacted, such as the abolishment of the minimum wage, but generally more in agreement than in disagreement. ALmost completely in agreement on the social viewpoints, minus the complete deregulation of firearms.


You’re still ducking and dodging CRO’s question. Where is your evidence that “white privilege” etc exists?

Edit - I see now after probably an hour or so of googling you were able to link/ copy paste an article.
Care to explain it?
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
Good, I was beginning to think you weren't going to be bothered with producing anything.

Before I unpack all that, is what you are saying is that white privilege kicks in once a white person has committed a crime? Does institutional racism exist in any other institution other than the judicial system?

And that it is more difficult for a black person to find a job than it is a white?

Anything else?
You never asked me to show every single piece of evidence. Your argument was it didn't exist. I provided evidence that refutes it.
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
You’re still ducking and dodging CRO’s question. Where is your evidence that “white privilege” etc exists?

Edit - I see now after probably an hour or so of googling you were able to link/ copy paste an article.
Care to explain it?
Systems cited are biased against blacks, what do you need to be explained?
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
You never asked me to show every single piece of evidence. Your argument was it didn't exist. I provided evidence that refutes it.

I will dissect your post in its entirety and explain to you why you have not provided any evidence to support your claims. Right now I am posted on the couch waiting for this game to start.

I do not mean to ask from you to provide every single piece of evidence, merely to what extent you feel white privilege and institutional racism exists in modern America.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
Black preschoolers make up 18 percent of the pre-school population, but represent almost half of all out-of-school suspensions

https://www.npr.org/sections/codesw...-preschoolers-far-more-likely-to-be-suspended

This is a fundamental error in logic and understanding of statistics. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to presume that since black preschoolers comprise 18 percent of the population they should represent 18 percent of the suspensions. This understanding is critical.



Once you get to K-12, black children are three times more likely to be suspended than white children. Black students make up almost 40 percent of all school expulsions, and more than two thirds of students referred to police from schools are either black or Hispanic

Even disabled black children suffer from institutional racism. About a fifth of disabled children are black – yet they account for 44 and 42 percent of disabled students put in mechanical restraints or placed in seclusion.

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/crdc-discipline-snapshot.pdf


This is not evidence of institutional racism; this is evidence of childhood behaviorial issues. Such issues are strongly correlated with the presence of a father figure and other nuclear family challenges. A staggering 73 percent of black births are out of wedlock. This is a fact which cannot simply be glossed over or completely ignored as is the case here. Even somone as far left as Don Lemon understands this stating,

"and probably the most important," he said -- had to do with out-of-wedlock births.

"Just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should," Lemon said. "Especially without planning for one or getting married first. More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock. That means absent fathers. And the studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison and the cycle continues."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...on-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/


Black children are 18 times more likely to be sentenced as adults than white children, and make up nearly 60 percent of children in prisons.

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/psp-a0035663.pdf


This again is misuse of statistics combined with ignoring of cultural factors. Since crimes are unique situations, any real conclusions can only be reached through an exhaustive look at a case by case basis, not sweeping generalities. The primary factor affecting sentencing of criminals is not race, but quality of representation.


I could go on for days about the methodology of this study, but lets look at one study result found within.


Study 1 provides evidence that children may not be given the privilege of innocence equally across race. From ages 0 –9, children were seen as equally innocent regardless of race. However, perceptions of innocence began to diverge at age 10. At this point, participants began to think of Black children as significantly less innocent than other children at every age group, beginning at the age of 10. Interestingly, after the age of 10, the perceived innocence of Black children is equal to or less than the perceived innocence of non-Black children in the next oldest cohort


So no bias was found here before the age of 10 but then it instantaneously shows up due to presumably racism. Well, what happens during teenage and preteen years? The adoption of popular culture. It is very clear that black popular culture often glorifies violence, if a 11 year old boy shows up to school wearing, walking, talking and acting like Flavor Flav it should not come as surprise that some people may perceive a loss of innocence. This would be independent of skin color, wether the kid was black or simply a UL fan.


Thankfully, not everyone is obtuse to this reality. Black British sports commentator notes:


The glorification of drugs, guns and misogyny by the street culture surrounding "gangsta rap" is a "deadly virus" threatening black Britons, according to one of the best-known black personalities on television.

Garth Crooks, a BBC sports commentator, told the London Schools and Black Child conference at the weekend that gangsta culture was "killing some of our children" while films and rap music glorifying violence were directly linked to education truancy, crime and violence.

In a direct plea to young, black men, Crooks urged them to turn their backs on an "epidemic" that sanctions gun use, drug-taking and drug dealing.

"Street culture will become a deadly virus ripping indiscriminately through our next generation, robbing millions of their potential," he said.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1471594/Gangsta-rap-culture-is-a-deadly-virus.html
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
Black juvenile offenders are much more likely to be viewed as adults in juvenile detention proceedings than their white counterparts.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0036680

This ignores biology. It is not uncommon for a soft science (social psychology) to ignore a hard science (biology) because it muddies the waters significantly.

Boys in the United States appear to be entering puberty much earlier than in the past – a trend researchers caution may have important medical, psychosocial, public health and environmental implications, according to a new study.



Overall, African-American boys were more likely to enter puberty earlier than white or Hispanic boys. The earliest stage of puberty was found to occur at 9.14, 10.14 and 10.4 years in African-American, non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic boys, respectively. Researchers say they don’t know why these racial and ethnic differences exist.


http://www.wschronicle.com/2012/11/black-boys-entering-puberty-earlier-than-counterparts/




InBlack college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/20/black-college-graduates_n_5358983.html

This assumes all degrees are equal, that a UNC AFAM degree is as employable as a UK pharmacy degree.

African American and Hispanic students disproportionately earn more bachelors degrees in low-paying majors, putting them at higher risk for financial instability after graduation, according to a new study from Young Invincibles, an advocacy group.


On the bright side, African Americans are gaining ground in engineering, mathematics and science technologies majors. Still, they only obtain 5 percent of the degrees awarded in each of those lucrative fields. Hispanic students, meanwhile, are registering similar results, which experts say is a clear indication that policymakers and educators need to pay extra attention to both minority groups to close racial income gaps.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rbates-earnings-gap-3/?utm_term=.e60386e80283


People with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html


First of all, the terms “black-sounding names” and“white-sounding names” is willfully ignorant of the reality that all names have a meaning and origin. For example, the name John is Hebrew and used in English whereas other languages have the variants Jean french, Juan spanish, Ivan slavic, Hans Germanic, Jan Scnadinavian, and DeShauwn or Rashawn or other of black variant. There is nothing stopping you from culturally appropriating whatever name you want.

Second of all, I immediately found this a difficult thing (you would need to control all variables )to test so I went in search of the original study. What I found was actually totally opposite what these old studies suggest.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9938.pdf

Most persuasive are audit studies in which matched resumes, one with a distinctively Black name and another with a traditionally White name, are mailed to potential employers (Jowell and Prescott-Clarke 1970, Hubbick and Carter 1980, 5 Brown and Gay 1985, Bertrand and Mullainathan 2002). Such studies repeatedly have found that resumes with traditional names are substantially more likely to lead to job interviews than are identical resumes with distinctively Black names. These results suggest that giving one’s child a Black name may impose important economic costs on the child. In our data, however, we find no compelling evidence of a causal impact of Black names on a wide range of life outcomes after controlling for background characteristics.





In contrast with prior audit studies of Black names on resumes, we find little evidence that names have a causal impact on adult life outcomes. More generally, this paper takes first steps towards an attempt to understand what role 31 Black culture might play in explaining continued poverty and racial isolation. With respect to this particular aspect of distinctive Black culture, we conclude that carrying a black name is primarily a consequence rather than a cause of poverty and segregation





Anyway, I have work to do and will get to the flaws of the rest of your post later.
 

FrankUnderwood

New member
May 26, 2017
15,912
2
0
This is a fundamental error in logic and understanding of statistics. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to presume that since black preschoolers comprise 18 percent of the population they should represent 18 percent of the suspensions. This understanding is critical.






This is not evidence of institutional racism; this is evidence of childhood behaviorial issues. Such issues are strongly correlated with the presence of a father figure and other nuclear family challenges. A staggering 73 percent of black births are out of wedlock. This is a fact which cannot simply be glossed over or completely ignored as is the case here. Even somone as far left as Don Lemon understands this stating,

"and probably the most important," he said -- had to do with out-of-wedlock births.

"Just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should," Lemon said. "Especially without planning for one or getting married first. More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock. That means absent fathers. And the studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison and the cycle continues."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...on-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/





This again is misuse of statistics combined with ignoring of cultural factors. Since crimes are unique situations, any real conclusions can only be reached through an exhaustive look at a case by case basis, not sweeping generalities. The primary factor affecting sentencing of criminals is not race, but quality of representation.


I could go on for days about the methodology of this study, but lets look at one study result found within.


Study 1 provides evidence that children may not be given the privilege of innocence equally across race. From ages 0 –9, children were seen as equally innocent regardless of race. However, perceptions of innocence began to diverge at age 10. At this point, participants began to think of Black children as significantly less innocent than other children at every age group, beginning at the age of 10. Interestingly, after the age of 10, the perceived innocence of Black children is equal to or less than the perceived innocence of non-Black children in the next oldest cohort


So no bias was found here before the age of 10 but then it instantaneously shows up due to presumably racism. Well, what happens during teenage and preteen years? The adoption of popular culture. It is very clear that black popular culture often glorifies violence, if a 11 year old boy shows up to school wearing, walking, talking and acting like Flavor Flav it should not come as surprise that some people may perceive a loss of innocence. This would be independent of skin color, wether the kid was black or simply a UL fan.


Thankfully, not everyone is obtuse to this reality. Black British sports commentator notes:


The glorification of drugs, guns and misogyny by the street culture surrounding "gangsta rap" is a "deadly virus" threatening black Britons, according to one of the best-known black personalities on television.

Garth Crooks, a BBC sports commentator, told the London Schools and Black Child conference at the weekend that gangsta culture was "killing some of our children" while films and rap music glorifying violence were directly linked to education truancy, crime and violence.

In a direct plea to young, black men, Crooks urged them to turn their backs on an "epidemic" that sanctions gun use, drug-taking and drug dealing.

"Street culture will become a deadly virus ripping indiscriminately through our next generation, robbing millions of their potential," he said.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1471594/Gangsta-rap-culture-is-a-deadly-virus.html



Wildcat just got completely owned. Well done CRO
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
This ignores biology. It is not uncommon for a soft science (social psychology) to ignore a hard science (biology) because it muddies the waters significantly.

Boys in the United States appear to be entering puberty much earlier than in the past – a trend researchers caution may have important medical, psychosocial, public health and environmental implications, according to a new study.



Overall, African-American boys were more likely to enter puberty earlier than white or Hispanic boys. The earliest stage of puberty was found to occur at 9.14, 10.14 and 10.4 years in African-American, non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic boys, respectively. Researchers say they don’t know why these racial and ethnic differences exist.


http://www.wschronicle.com/2012/11/black-boys-entering-puberty-earlier-than-counterparts/
Well that's interesting. They are being tried as adults more frequently because they look older. Why? Becuase they begin puberty earlier. Why? Becuase they are black. At the end of the day, one is being tried as adult more frequently due to the differences in their black and white biology. That's racism in my book.
 
Last edited:

IdaCat

Well-known member
May 8, 2004
68,809
1,290
113
Over the last 50 years, the liberal welfare state has destroyed an entire community of people. Yet, the left continues controlling the narrative (and the vote) by inciting racial division and hatred among minorities. Straight out of the Marxist playbook. It's disgusting.

 

FrankUnderwood

New member
May 26, 2017
15,912
2
0
Over the last 50 years, the liberal welfare state has destroyed an entire community of people. Yet, the left continues controlling the narrative (and the vote) by inciting racial division and hatred among minorities. Straight out of the Marxist playbook. It's disgusting.




It can’t be said enough. It really is *disgusting* abhorrent. Pitiful and pathetic.

Many adjectives to describe it.
 

WildcatofNati

New member
Mar 31, 2009
8,183
969
0
"White privilege" is largely a weapon used by white people who actually do have privilege (spoiled college children, professional SJW journalists, etc), which is largely based on social class and not whiteness, against white people who are NOT privileged. It's reprehensible. By the way, though Boston's spam was largely decimated by subsequent posts, if the links are taken at face value, then there is also Asian privilege, and more of it than white privilege. How often are they suspended and incarcerated? Guess what? Less than Whitey!

On a side note, what is UP will all of these libertarian, Johnson-voting SJWs? I've never met one in real life, but they are pervasive on this board!
 

TheEgyptianMagician

New member
May 6, 2004
15,086
406
0
That's racism in my book.

No offense, but perhaps it's time to check out more books.

Of particular use to you would maybe be this one





It's not a book I have read myself, but I do remember reading a glowing review of it in the Economist, which is a center left (for them) British weekly... so I doubt it would be offensive to your professed libertarian sensibilities.
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
Over the last 50 years, the liberal welfare state has destroyed an entire community of people. Yet, the left continues controlling the narrative (and the vote) by inciting racial division and hatred among minorities. Straight out of the Marxist playbook. It's disgusting.


Might want to look in the mirror at who you voted for President if you want to complain about inciting racial division and hatred among minorities. Hasn't been a man in the White House that hated non white males this much in a long damn time.
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
"White privilege" is largely a weapon used by white people who actually do have privilege (spoiled college children, professional SJW journalists, etc), which is largely based on social class and not whiteness, against white people who are NOT privileged. It's reprehensible. By the way, though Boston's spam was largely decimated by subsequent posts, if the links are taken at face value, then there is also Asian privilege, and more of it than white privilege. How often are they suspended and incarcerated? Guess what? Less than Whitey!

On a side note, what is UP will all of these libertarian, Johnson-voting SJWs? I've never met one in real life, but they are pervasive on this board!
It's a protest vote to send a message that we don't approve of the direction either of the two main politicals parties are headed. I've typically voted Republican in the past but there is no way on Earth I am ever voting for a president candidate with the demeanor and immaturity the likes of Donald Trump and one that runs of a campaign filled with so much hate and contempt. To me, voting for him would be me telling the world that everything I hate about him should be considered acceptable behaviors from a grown *** man.

That's not even considering his political beliefs. I don't agree with the majority of his beliefs/ideas, but there are some.
 

warrior-cat

Well-known member
Oct 22, 2004
190,049
4,551
113
Might want to look in the mirror at who you voted for President if you want to complain about inciting racial division and hatred among minorities. Hasn't been a man in the White House that hated non white males this much in a long damn time.
So, you have proof where he has stated something like this or are you just going with left wing sites and media.
 

santamaria78

New member
Nov 13, 2017
742
0
0
It's a protest vote to send a message that we don't approve of the direction either of the two main politicals parties are headed. I've typically voted Republican in the past but there is no way on Earth I am ever voting for a president candidate with the demeanor and immaturity the likes of Donald Trump and one that runs of a campaign filled with so much hate and contempt. To me, voting for him would be me telling the world that everything I hate about him should be considered acceptable behaviors from a grown *** man.

That's not even considering his political beliefs. I don't agree with the majority of his beliefs/ideas, but there are some.
what specific acts or comments makes you think that Trump hates non white males? I would bet that you probably listen to minority "leaders" who make outrageous claims (not based in fact) and that is your proof.

There are consequences for individuals in this country. And you SHOULD be able to reap the rewards of those consequences or do the time for them. There is no body to blame but yourself if you are in a situation that is not ideal.
I'd love to find someone who makes these claims of white privilege , institutional racism bs bs bs... and trace their steps during the day of what choices they make. What words do they use to communicate with people.
Also it's funny hearing trump hates non white people when not a few years ago the democrat party OFFICALLY gave up on the white working class as a voting bloc. Would you like to comment on that?
 
Last edited:
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
So, you have proof where he has stated something like this or are you just going with left wing sites and media.
His actions, or lack thereof in some cases, throughout his life have spoken far louder than his words.

As far as the sexism/misogyny goes, this link provides a good breakdown. I have put the most egregiously bad selections below in the spiler. I admit some of them are a stretch and a couple just don't make sense to me though
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/po...tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/

Back when George HW Bush was US President, Trump spoke to Esquire magazine about the media: "You know, it doesn't really matter what [they] write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ***."

According to New York Magazine, in November 1992, Trump said that German gold-medal winning Olympic ice skater Katarina Witt was: "Wonderful looking while on the ice but up close and personal, she could only be described as attractive if you like a woman with a bad complexion who is built like a linebacker".

In an interview with New York Magazine ('who keeps letting this guy speak to the press?' asked precisely no one), Trump uttered this charming phrase about women: 'You have to treat 'em like s----'.

“I have days where, if I come home — and I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist,” the Republican said, “but when I come home and dinner's not ready, I go through the roof.”

“I think that putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing,” said Trump. “Unfortunately, after they're a star, the fun is over for me. It's like a creation process. It's almost like creating a building. It's pretty sad.”

“There are basically three types of women and reactions. One is the good woman who very much loves her future husband, solely for himself, but refuses to sign the agreement on principle. I fully understand this, but the man should take a pass anyway and find someone else. The other is the calculating woman who refuses to sign the prenuptial agreement because she is expecting to take advantage of the poor, unsuspecting sucker she’s got in her grasp. There is also the woman who will openly and quickly sign a prenuptial agreement in order to make a quick hit and take the money given to her.” [so all women are gold diggers only looking to get married to get money]

Look, Trump said a lot of outrageous things to Howard Stern - we know this. But here's another worth noting. In May 2000, the property mogul ranked famous women he'd like to sleep with, including Princess Diana. “She had the height, she had the beauty, she had the skin — the whole thing,” Trump said. “She was crazy, but these are minor details.”

During an interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump said this about his then 22-year-old daughter: "You know who's one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She's 6 feet tall, she's got the best body. [what kind of father thinks of his daughter this way? Gross]

According to one woman who appeared on the show [The Apprentice], Trump told her: “I bet you make a great wife."

In the same year that Trump called his daughter Ivanka 'voluptuous' in interview with Howard Stern, he then appeared on TV chat show The View said the infamous words: “If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” [Proceeds to vomit]

“Rosie O'Donnell is disgusting, both inside and out. If you take a look at her, she's a slob. How does she even get on television? If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie. I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers and say, 'Rosie, you're fired.' We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness - Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." He also made a jibe at her love life and managed to offend the LGBT community at the same time: "Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend. And she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend, why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?"

He says women throw themselves at him: “They’ll walk up, and they’ll flip their top, and they’ll flip their panties.” He claims to be attracted to women who are 'a bit chunky' when Stern asks if he's ever 'reduced himself' to sleeping with a 'fat woman'. Trump also says he's 'been with women with extraordinarily bad breast jobs' and 'pancake tits'. He adds that any woman who has a breast reduction is 'insane'.

Beauty queen Carrie Prejean wrote about the ‘Trump rule’ in her book, referring to the Miss USA pageant, of which Trump was co-owner. She claimed that the billionaire had the girls parade in front of him so he could separate those he found attractive from those he didn’t. She wrote: “Many of the girls found this exercise humiliating. Some of the girls were sobbing backstage after [he] left, devastated to have failed even before the competition really began . . . it was as though we had been stripped bare.”

According to a report in the New York Post, former female contestants on the show [The Apprentice] complained that Trump consistently objectified women. Mahsa Saeidi-Azcuy claimed: “So much of the boardroom discussion concerned the appearance of the female contestant - discussing the female contestants' looks - who he found to be hot. “He asked the men to rate the women - he went down the line and asked the guys, ‘Who’s the most beautiful on the women’s team?’"

After New York Times columnist Gail Collins wrote about rumours of Trump’s bankruptcy, he sent her a copy of her own article, with her picture circled and "the face of a dog!" scrawled across it.








In an interview with the New York Times, Trump said of the German supermodel: “Heidi Klum. Sadly, she’s no longer a 10.”

Carly Fiorina is the former Hewlett-Packard boss and was Trump’s Republican rival. According to Rolling Stone magazine, he said: "Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that?" Can you imagine that, the face of our next next President? I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?"

In the early hours of the morning, on September 2016, Trump posted a series of comments on Twitter continuing his attack on the 1996 Miss Universe winner and Venezuelan actress Alicia Machado. Machado's name had been raised by Hillary Clinton, during the first Presidential debate, when she accused Trump of having called the model "fat". Miss Machado claimed Mr Trump also called her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping" after she won the Miss Universe pageant, which he owns.

Associated Press spoke to insiders on reality show The Apprentice USA, who claimed that former host Trump used to rate female contestants by the size of their breasts and talked about who he'd like to have sex with. Former crew members recalled that he repeatedly made lewd comments about a camerawoman - who he said had a nice rear - comparing her beauty to that of his daughter, Ivanka. Others said Trump called for female contestants to wear shorter dresses, which showed more cleavage. Producer Katherine Walker added that Trump frequently talked about women's bodies and speculated about which female contestant would be "a tiger in bed". Another crew member, who asked not to be identified, recalled: "We were in the boardroom one time figuring out who to blame for the task, and he just stopped in the middle and pointed to someone and said, 'You'd f*** her, wouldn't you? I'd f*** her. C'mon, wouldn't you?'"

***** grabbing video...
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
And the racial stuff
For example, he stated a Mexican who was born and raised in the US could not fairly arbitrate and judge lawsuits related to Trump University.

He cut funds for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to combat facism and white supremacy hate groups in the US

He delayed aid for Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico

Has deported law abiding immigrants who had immigrated to the USA legally, some of which were even veterans of our armed forces

He stated that people protesting against white nationalists and white supremacists were wrong

He was sued by the Justice Department in the 1970s for failing to rent to African Americans at one of his properties he served as landlord for.

He would order all African Americans employees off the floor of his Atlantic City casino when he visited http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/trump-casinos-black-employees/

He once stated that "laziness is a trait in blacks" and "not anything they can control" http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html

Requested Jews replace his black accountants http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html

Claimed Native Americans running a Native American casino weren't Native American because they didn't look like Native Americans. Why? BEcuase Native American casinos were expanding, competing against his casinos, and then he falsely accused the Native Americans of teaming with the mob to try and halt their expansion. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-his-2016-campaign/?utm_term=.04db67299beb

Claimed Mexican immigrants are rapists https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/donald-trump-racist-claims-mexico-rapes

Voiced support for two of his supporters after they beat up a homeless Latino man https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ssaulted-hispanic-man/?utm_term=.08de26113c75

Proposed a database to track American Muslims, similar to the Nazi database of Jews https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...d-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716

Retweeted an anti-semitic meme https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/02/trump-used-a-star-of-david-to-accuse-clinton-of-being-corrupt.html

Retweeted an anti-black meme http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

Appointed Steve Bannon at his chief strategist, a man that ran a website that has stories tagged "Black Crime" http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/

Has repeatedly used the term "Pochahontas" to negatively refer to Sen. Warren Elizabeth, a person with Native American heritage
 

santamaria78

New member
Nov 13, 2017
742
0
0
And the racial stuff
For example, he stated a Mexican who was born and raised in the US could not fairly arbitrate and judge lawsuits related to Trump University.

He cut funds for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to combat facism and white supremacy hate groups in the US

He delayed aid for Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico

Has deported law abiding immigrants who had immigrated to the USA legally, some of which were even veterans of our armed forces

He stated that people protesting against white nationalists and white supremacists were wrong

He was sued by the Justice Department in the 1970s for failing to rent to African Americans at one of his properties he served as landlord for.

He would order all African Americans employees off the floor of his Atlantic City casino when he visited http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/trump-casinos-black-employees/

He once stated that "laziness is a trait in blacks" and "not anything they can control" http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html

Requested Jews replace his black accountants http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html

Claimed Native Americans running a Native American casino weren't Native American because they didn't look like Native Americans. Why? BEcuase Native American casinos were expanding, competing against his casinos, and then he falsely accused the Native Americans of teaming with the mob to try and halt their expansion. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-his-2016-campaign/?utm_term=.04db67299beb

Claimed Mexican immigrants are rapists https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/donald-trump-racist-claims-mexico-rapes

Voiced support for two of his supporters after they beat up a homeless Latino man https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ssaulted-hispanic-man/?utm_term=.08de26113c75

Proposed a database to track American Muslims, similar to the Nazi database of Jews https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...d-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716

Retweeted an anti-semitic meme https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/02/trump-used-a-star-of-david-to-accuse-clinton-of-being-corrupt.html

Retweeted an anti-black meme http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

Appointed Steve Bannon at his chief strategist, a man that ran a website that has stories tagged "Black Crime" http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/

Has repeatedly used the term "Pochahontas" to negatively refer to Sen. Warren Elizabeth, a person with Native American heritage
his actions LMFAO so it's up to YOU to interpret it and I bet you get no help from the media either. Remember the nelly song, "Donald trump lemme hear ya now" in country grammar. He's such a racist thru his actions a rapper included him. hahaha actions speak louder than words and YOU interpret them. Not a chance you could be effed up in your perception eh? LMFAO
 
Mar 23, 2012
23,493
1,384
0
his actions LMFAO so it's up to YOU to interpret it and I bet you get no help from the media either. Remember the nelly song, "Donald trump lemme hear ya now" in country grammar. He's such a racist thru his actions a rapper included him. hahaha actions speak louder than words and YOU interpret them. Not a chance you could be effed up in your perception eh? LMFAO
So you're just going to ignore his federal lawsuit for housing discrimination and his own words as well that I posted? I guess that's just all FAKE NEWS since it doesn't support your agenda, right?
 

santamaria78

New member
Nov 13, 2017
742
0
0
So you're just going to ignore his federal lawsuit for housing discrimination and his own words as well? I guess that's just all FAKE NEWS since it doesn't support your agenda, right?
no it's not fake news but it's totally irrelevant to his job as POTUS. He does good business (good meaning make money) IF he sees people who will not pay and trash the property, why doesn't he have the right to say "no thanks" I'm not going to rent to you?

And in your mind that means that he hates all non whites???? Really you're going to take that one lawsuit and generalize it to all non whites. Is that how simple your mind works? There should be no legislation that mandates equality of outcome. That is bogus and unfair to everyone involved. There should be equal OPPORTUNITY. If you eff up that opportunity with your actions or words you need to learn and not do it again.

White supremism is not a threat. Libs want it to be so they can point to examples to wipe out white people (upon whom they gave up for votes). Black nationalism (which is now an official terror threat) and fundamental Islam are the two main threats to our civilization. Both are voticing blocs of the democrat party. Can you do that math?
 

Stonewall12

Active member
Nov 15, 2009
24,257
1,920
66
no I don't believe in white privilege. I think some people are privileged to many things. Blacks are super athletic, whites tend to be less athletic less violent more family oriented than blacks. Blacks by in large group togather (90% vote democrat party, NAACP, African American identity.) Black culture is unique and when you compare that sort of cultural uniqueness (things like murder, no father house holds, total dependency on the government) then normalcy (white culture) looks like privilege to black culture b/c it is completely rotted. That's not white peoples' fault and it's a ******** narrative.

I think the NAACP is inherently racist, I think BET channel is inherently racist, I think anything that excludes someone openly based on race and Caucasian is just as equal a race as African American, then I think it's inherently racist. It's not racist that a majority of black males are super predators (Hillary Clinton's term) and commit a **** ton of violent crimes.
Home run