I disagree. There's a time and place for everything and BB guns don't belong on campus. That's the real problem here. Someone with a BB gun on campus is up to no good.
And UK calls UL thugs
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I disagree. There's a time and place for everything and BB guns don't belong on campus. That's the real problem here. Someone with a BB gun on campus is up to no good.
LMFAO this is a new low for Bill. Lowery exhausted his eligibility, he wasn't shown the door via discipline. Way to tell a fraction of the story Bill!
Bill has slowly drifted to be just like the rest of the invaders. He is going to justify and defend all actions of "his squad" and just deflect away.
I guess we could stop talking about Mr. DUI and the BB gun boys, there's still 13 more to talk about - which is twice as many you got left to break down holy man.
Asking Cards fans if one of their guys will miss any games. You can't make this up. A near 3 to 1 arrest record ratio against UK and this guy wants to ask about discipline around here. Really Bill, that's just weak.
It was in reference to Senore continuing to ask if Lowery missed any games. If you guys are going to dig in on that shouldn't Ross assaulting a cop be worthy of missing some games as well?
I took it he was asking if Lowery was ever going to be suspended, that's why I wrote he wasn't at UK any longer.
Well, I asked because I didn't know. It didn't take long to identify the guy. I just asked what the justice system did with it.
you're delusional and then some...your actual response should've been something like: "Yes, those U OF K fans who claim that U of L is experiencing more problems with player discipline than us are all wet and probably [misinformed? anti-Louisville-the-city?, or just plain old nitwits who know nothing about today's kids much less football?]."
Instead we get BB-gun-gate? Pathetic. Just like your football program. Not to mention you really do seem to care nothing about the players in all of this.Quibble all you want, U OF K has nearly 3x the arrests (or subtract for BB-gun-gate and it's still 2x as many arrests).
BB gun gate lol, sorry if I don't think thats a serious discipline issue, it's not, and if it weren't UK football players you wouldn't care either.
Turning message board banter into somehow not caring about players or being anti city of Louisville is delusional.
Calling UofL thug U is stupid, it what fans do on message boards, they belittle rival schools.
Washington St!?!?! WTH...that's just messed up...I have no idea what's going on up there, was this a result of some major crack down on something?
Yep, that's what you've tried to hi-jack the arrest count into. You've said the same thing about 8 times in the thread. We get it Bill, we get it. Time for you to move on.
Sorry Bill, topic is about arrest counts not about your interpretation of laws and how and when they should be enforced. How about you go create a thread about how you'd handle street justice and we'll all meet you in that one.
Yep Ipartied. His attacking the people calling in the gunshots to the police was real classy as well. Guy don't don't know crap about guns yet he has an opinion on them and what they sound like.
He's just unwilling to own the #'s, and more to the point, the truth about off field problems when comparing the programs. It's a reality pill they don't want to swallow. One of them came through and said the DUI bandit had suffered enough with his injury, and didn't warrant discipline.
They are so busy hating they don't let facts enter the discussion. That's why Bill and others steer the topics when the facts don't frame their team into a positive light.
Yep. Because anyone who knows what a .45, 9MM, .380 sounds like also knows .22LR exists.
How is stating the obvious an attack on the person that called in the report? They obviously didn't hear gunfire, since they had airsoft guns. And I know quite a bit about guns, have hunted my entire life, and own several.
What do you mean I'm not willing to own it? It's written right there in black, it obviously happened.
And bringing up Ross and whether or not he is going to miss games is pertinent when a UofL fan brings up Lowery not missing any games.
I also don't think Thug U is an appropriate thing to call Louisville or any school.
And I don't hate UofL, just because I have a different viewpoint is not hate, nor hijacking a thread.
If that is truly the case, then your blue glasses must be on. Because you should know all about gun responsibility. And this isn't part of it.
So, if I walk on the streets or in to a bank with a BB gun all good huh.
I'm just gonna piggyback on my last post a week or so ago. We debate with UK fans because that's what rivals do. At the end of the day, Louisville is a football school and UK is not a football school. We are both basketball schools. But it's the former statement the differentiates us from UK.
My thought is that we keep our UK debates to basketball and our football debates to Florida State and Clemson.
My thought is that we keep our UK debates to basketball and our football debates to Florida State and Clemson.
You can walk the streets all you want with a REAL gun in KY, it's perfectly legal.
Lists like these are good for rivals banter, but they lack the backing by credible sources. As many UK fans like to mention, it doesn't include people who transfer into your program such as; Devonte Fields and Shaq Wiggins. I know you will say it didn't happen at your school, so it doesn't count. Also, for some reason they do not count people like the Gefrad brothers who were kicked off of the team prior to the media announcement. I'm sure there are UK players that were missed as well, but where is the fun in me mentioning them? 
Even though our numbers are double yours, I am fine with that knowing that we have only had one serious arrest in the Stoops era(Tubman) and even though he was cleared by the Grand Jury he is no longer on the team. Granted, that was decided by the School, not Stoops; nobody knows what Stoops would have done. I'm pretty sure the same is with Louisville, anybody with a serious issue is dismissed.
There are a lot of schools that that can't be said about. Which is why I am happy with both schools right now.
Even though our numbers are double yours, I am fine with that knowing that we have only had one serious arrest in the Stoops era(Tubman) and even though he was cleared by the Grand Jury he is no longer on the team. Granted, that was decided by the School, not Stoops; nobody knows what Stoops would have done. I'm pretty sure the same is with Louisville, anybody with a serious issue is dismissed.
There are a lot of schools that that can't be said about. Which is why I am happy with both schools right now.
That's what the UK bball fans say about Calipari. So let's pick a side on that point of view and move on.
Well, they did have involvement in the campus getting shut down, and they did get arrested.
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I have not researched specifics at all, so forgive the upcoming questions.
Lowery, did his DUI action go down while Joker was in town then?
And what exactly was the UK discipline for that one, Stoops played him right?
I really don't know details. All I know is he was hammered, his ride flipped ove, he endangered a lot of lives, and he spent some time hospitalized.
No, it was under Stoops. You have the details pretty much correct. That situation had mixed feelings from our fan base. About half wanted him dismissed and about half thought he punished himself enough by almost killing himself.
I had very mixed feelings. I had 4 family members killed by a drunk driver(one wreck) and I have seen many people killed by drunk drivers. So I had a lot of mixed feelings as well. In the end, reasoning won out over my emotions.
Players get DUI's all the time and are not dismissed(and a whole lot of college students), what he went though definitely had more of an effect on him than a few game suspension or a dismissal. However, I do think he should have at least been suspended a few games. Its the one fault I have with Stoops so far, but compared to most coaches out there, this isn't a big deal.
I had very mixed feelings. I had 4 family members killed by a drunk driver(one wreck) and I have seen many people killed by drunk drivers. So I had a lot of mixed feelings as well. In the end, reasoning won out over my emotions.
Players get DUI's all the time and are not dismissed(and a whole lot of college students), what he went though definitely had more of an effect on him than a few game suspension or a dismissal. However, I do think he should have at least been suspended a few games. Its the one fault I have with Stoops so far, but compared to most coaches out there, this isn't a big deal.
I know he suffered, I think he learns from it, but it was a pretty big deal.
My other thought, on the 4 air gun boys, while their actions have been argued to be of minor offenses, the bottom line is their actions created enough chaos for the campus to shut down. That's a big deal. And, only time tells if they learn from that one, because they too probably can't believe they were arrested and may look @ it as no big deal.
They've probably heard from family, friends, and fans that the arrest was BS, which could make them less likely to learn from their mistakes.
I don't even know who those 4 guys were - what's an update on their behavior about a year later? Just curious. Not rooting against anybody in this regard.
My other thought, on the 4 air gun boys, while their actions have been argued to be of minor offenses, the bottom line is their actions created enough chaos for the campus to shut down. That's a big deal. And, only time tells if they learn from that one, because they too probably can't believe they were arrested and may look @ it as no big deal.
They've probably heard from family, friends, and fans that the arrest was BS, which could make them less likely to learn from their mistakes.
I don't even know who those 4 guys were - what's an update on their behavior about a year later? Just curious. Not rooting against anybody in this regard.
You're right, hide the women and children as they're obviously a menace to society and have no discipline and Stoops has lost the team. SMH
In Portland, Cliff Robinson and 3 other Trail Blazers were arrested for shooting paint balls at cars and civilians, lol. They were also suspended for 5 games each.
This is the exact stance the UK campus security took.
Are you STILL dismissing the 18 arrests by pointing out 4 of the 18 were for carrying air soft guns?
No more arrests or charges have been filed for any players involved. Barker was sucker punched at EKU and Dubose was with him. Other than that, no issues. One other guy KTFO of a EKU player, but was not arrested, charged or anything.
Some stuff happens that coaches either know something more than us casual fans that mans they didn't need more punishment. I'm sure if Stoops thought Lowery needed more punishment he would have given it, and he obviously didn't think the airsofters was that big of a deal since they were only suspended a few games.
It's crazy how uselessakay fans justify what was a horribly dangerous situation with the campus shutdown. Those players were very lucky that the police held their fire.
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It wasn't horribly dangerous, who exactly was in danger?
No one is justifying it, but if the cops roll up on them and see it's just air soft guns no one is arrested, they tell them to put them away, end of story.
The issue came about because gun fire was reported, the police thought there was an active shooter and shutdown campus. At that point someone is getting arrested even if they were holding a stick shaped like a gun.